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AnacondaHL posted:Meta summary Thanks! Which professions actually get brought to (pug) raids? It sounds like most of them aren't very desireable. From what i can see you want 2 warriors, 2 druids, a herald and a chronomancer. What about the other 4? Will my Necro using the viper horror raid meta build be able to get pug raid spots? Would i have to be fully ascended since its not super desireable or would weapons/trinkets be enough? I almost exclusively play open world meta events (SW and Maguuma Jungle) and am doing fine there with rares and exotics, but would also like to try a few pug raids. Mainly to unlock the HoT mastery as it is very demoralizing to play in Maguuma Jungle now and have all my xp "wasted". I am not that interested in nor really have the playtime to make ascended armor, so i am trying to see if there are any raid meta builds that has some overlap with what i enjoy playing for open world so that i can get ascended weapons and trinkets that suit both playstyles. (and not have to get ascended armor) I have enough non bloodstone fens stuff to get full zerk trinkets and enough blood rubies to get 2 rings + neck + backpack for Viper, so both zerk and viper roles would suit me. Additionally my necro is my favorite open world profession so it would be convenient if i could also get into raid groups with it. Ineptitude fucked around with this message at 08:41 on Aug 25, 2016 |
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Aug 25, 2016 08:46
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Ineptitude posted:Thanks!
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Aug 25, 2016 09:01
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pug raids vary based on the autism level of the alpha pug
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Aug 25, 2016 09:24
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So the embellished skins were all 1 ticket each when they were new, but with the Bloodstone skins having been released they've been kicked back to another room and now each cost 2 tickets. Surely this will happen with Bloodstone, but the current skins are already selling for nearly double of what the embellished TP's for. Is investing in this kind of thing with tickets a Thing, or is the return low enough over time that it's not worth the risk?
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Aug 25, 2016 13:36
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It's very much a thing, if you can sniff out which skins will be sought after. The embellished ones aren't that special so it's no wonder they were not expensive to begin with. Bloodstone weapons are already more expensive. I'm not much of a long term gambler, so I used the 2 tickets I had for a quick profit towards my ascended stuff.
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Aug 25, 2016 14:12
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It's definitely a thing, though I think it's less of a thing than it once was. Most skins never completely disappear from sale anymore (the earliest ones did, if I recall correctly), so they never quite reach the heights, price-wise, of earlier skins. They do get more expensive because they go up in ticket price, but they don't skyrocket because they remain technically available if you have the tickets for them. But if you have a ticket, or spare gold, and you don't want to actually use a Bloodstone skin, grabbing one or two and sitting on them for a good while can make you some gold.
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Aug 25, 2016 14:16
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Based on idly keeping an eye on the TP, it seems like most black lion weapon sets start at ~100 gold per skin when they're new and then decrease in price as they remain available longer until they hit maybe 70-80 sell price and ~50 gold buy price. So that's also a factor in the bloodstone skins being more expensive than the previous set. They'll drop over the next few weeks. The trick is figuring out which ones will be most popular in the longterm so they'll rise the most once a new set or two is released.
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Aug 25, 2016 15:16
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nickhimself posted:So the embellished skins were all 1 ticket each when they were new, but with the Bloodstone skins having been released they've been kicked back to another room and now each cost 2 tickets. Surely this will happen with Bloodstone, but the current skins are already selling for nearly double of what the embellished TP's for. Is investing in this kind of thing with tickets a Thing, or is the return low enough over time that it's not worth the risk? This is how I make most of my non-gameplay money. I had a plot at one point which I can dig up that showed for the last few dozen sets of weapons that they pretty consistently decrease in price until they go off of the market, at which point they increase slowly. It's rare to get burned as the buy/sell price gap is generally close to the break-even mark to begin with. Ideally you'd have some idea of when the skins will be swapped out and put your buy orders in right before that. It's not as big of a money maker in the short term as it once was because everyone is doing it, but if you have a couple hundred/thousand gold it's a convenient return for little effort.
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Aug 25, 2016 16:14
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It also depends A LOT on how cool the weapon set is. The spectral weapons that were available a couple months ago are already worth a ton more than the poo poo loads of stupid loving Dwayna weapons i bought like six months ago, which haven't gone up in price at all.
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Aug 25, 2016 16:33
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shared inventory slots on sale, 15% off (2800 for 5 is now 2380 for 5) copper salvage kit on sale too, 20% off (800 down to 640) if you do not own the copper kit, buy it first. if you have a lot of gems left over, buy the 5 shared slots and put your new kit into it
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Aug 25, 2016 17:04
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Shared inventory slots should be like 300 at the most, but I am tempted to get some. So far having that one has been great because my copper-fed kit sits in there, but there have been a handful of times I really wanted at least one more for transferring my infinite pickaxe or AB exalted keys or something. I don't know if 15% is enough for me to cave, though
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Aug 25, 2016 17:08
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previous shared slot sale was 20% off, but there won't be another one for a while i forgot that people already have the one slot from buying heart of thorns, so if you have that you don't need more. it's really for super luxury dudes who have perma banks/merchants/tp
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Aug 25, 2016 17:12
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I am tempted to get 4 for the HoT map keys but that seems like such a temporary 1% thing that I'll regret later on.
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Aug 25, 2016 17:48
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If there were shared gathering tool slots I'd probably buy them, because they'd add a ton of value to infinite gathering tools.
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Aug 25, 2016 17:49
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Hmmmm so many possibilities but only one choice...
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Aug 25, 2016 17:59
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knowonecanknow posted:I am tempted to get 4 for the HoT map keys but that seems like such a temporary 1% thing that I'll regret later on. I did that a while back but I'm not too sure if I regret it yet.
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Aug 25, 2016 18:34
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I only have one shared slot, the one they gave away free, and I put the copper-fed salvage kit in there. Best bang for buck. If I had the permanent bank access I guess I'd have to buy another. I wish gemstore unlimited crafting tools would be truly account-wide in the sense that if you equip it on one character, it's there for everyone. I can't be arsed to keep swapping them around.
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Aug 25, 2016 18:36
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I do want at least one more shared slot, my hot shared slot is filled with my 1% zone scroll so I was looking forward to a sale on the things. No silver salvage kit up though? I was holding out for one of them, mleh.
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Aug 25, 2016 18:39
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neongrey posted:I do want at least one more shared slot, my hot shared slot is filled with my 1% zone scroll so I was looking forward to a sale on the things. Silver is a bad deal, copper is not. Enjoy!
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Aug 25, 2016 18:54
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Ineptitude posted:Thanks! The PUG raid meta is 1 Warrior/Herald/Chronotank/Magi Druid with 6 DPS. Ascended Viper Necromancer is a fine investment for getting into raids. Here is a meta breakdown for each boss: Wing 1 Vale Guardian: Meta. Red Guardian mechanic requires condi damage, green circle requires ranged, and condi Engineer players are generally poo poo, so Necro is still very good here. Gorseval: Meta. Epidemic and spirit holding utility now exceeds the value of average to sub-par Staff Elementalist stacking. Sabetha: Meta, now that minions don't bug her out. Epidemic and extra condi damage modifier on Karde, and you can even kite the flak if you're feeling cheeky. Wing 2 Slothasor: Meta. Trait Blood Magic for transfusion and spot healing, Corrosive Poison Cloud for the projectile destruction, and Epi the gently caress out of everything. Trio: Meta, but you could also bring a ham sandwich and be meta. Matthias: Meta. Again, option for Blood Magic, save teammates by pulling condis off them, and generally having enough HP to not die instantly like other Zerk power professions. Wing 3 Escort: Meta. Hold a Warg, Epi some poo poo. KC: Not desired. Not good Epi, burn phase highly favors spike power DPS. Xera: Mostly desired, but it depends. At this point the PUGs for Xera are all leftovers from static raid groups so strategies vary case by case.
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Aug 25, 2016 19:20
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Sprite141 posted:Silver is a bad deal, copper is not. Enjoy! I don't care about cost effectiveness so much as I care about swimming in giant piles of lovely green sigils every half hour
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Aug 25, 2016 20:32
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You can safely use copper-fed on anything green and lower. The only thing silver-fed gives you a better salvage return on is yellows (due to ecto chance), where it's equivalent to a master salvage kit/mystic salvage kit. If you use silver-fed on greens you're literally throwing money away, since the increased chance of mats/upgrades from greens/blues in no way makes up the cost/use difference.
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Aug 25, 2016 20:55
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AnacondaHL posted:Trait Blood Magic Also having one necro for Xera is really good because of both plague signet and epidemic meaning you don't ever have to worry about adds, and I think more and more pugs are realizing this.
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Aug 25, 2016 21:51
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DonVincenzo posted:Hmmmm so many possibilities but only one choice... A++ correct opinion
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Aug 25, 2016 22:06
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tyblazitar posted:Please don't do this unless your group is terrible. Hey, poster was asking about pugging raids, soooo, yup. It's really not that much of a DPS loss anyways. On all the Blood Magic potential fights the Necro shifts to a utility role while other professions DPS carry.
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Aug 25, 2016 22:16
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New build just landed and I saw tons of rendering bugs for player models and armor and now the game crashes before I can load in my characters. Anyone else, or is it just me? Nevermind. Seems ok after restarting. check out my Youtube fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Aug 26, 2016 |
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Aug 26, 2016 00:54
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AnacondaHL posted:Hey, poster was asking about pugging raids, soooo, yup.
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Aug 26, 2016 02:21
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Blood Magic is great if you only have one druid because a bunch of your raid group only plays one class and even then only has celestial gear
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Aug 26, 2016 02:50
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Baron Von Pigeon posted:New build just landed and I saw tons of rendering bugs for player models and armor and now the game crashes before I can load in my characters. Anyone else, or is it just me? windows 10
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Aug 26, 2016 02:58
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Visidan posted:windows 10 I like Windows 10.
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Aug 26, 2016 03:20
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you only need one necro on matt for plague signet because you can't epidemic anything i actually swap off my necro for guard because reflects are king
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Aug 26, 2016 05:29
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Ah poo poo, the HoT zones are really empty. Am I going to have a problem doing any story stuff solo, don't remember if this thing blends story with dynamic event stuff.
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Aug 26, 2016 08:14
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No.
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Aug 26, 2016 08:18
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ijyt posted:Ah poo poo, the HoT zones are really empty.
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Aug 26, 2016 08:30
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Nektu posted:Use LFG to find the instances where the meta-events are happening. This. I've been running more HoT again lately finishing up some collections and I haven't had a problem in any map. Granted I play in US prime time.
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Aug 26, 2016 19:34
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When I started using the LFG tool more frequently I noticed I was having more fun because I had way more options available to me.
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Aug 26, 2016 20:01
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Yeah, I did HoT in its entirety not long ago, it came out fine, at worst you will have some pain in the rear end running to the next instance but that is about it and if you are having a real hard time, yeah look for meta squads.
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Aug 26, 2016 20:02
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The HoT experience is getting wrecked by smokescales because you found one with out having both dodges handy. Also, are bank tabs on sale yet?
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4th anniversary stream is going on now, but intro video didn't have a single Tivac in it boooo
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