Revelation 2-13 posted:

There are (again) different ways of measuring it, here is a simple example which I really like, the question is about whether or not you'd want a neighbor of a difference race : https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/15/a-fascinating-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/

Of course, as with all measures of that sort there are several problems, but overall you'll find the same pattern in most of the easily available stuff on discrimination and racism. There is however, quite a spread in Europe, so probably some European countries would compare favorably to the US.

e:overall, what I was trying to say, is that the US fairly consistently scores as one of the countries in the world with highest race/ethnicity tolerance across many different ways of measuring those sorts of things. Which is different from whether the justice system is bad etc.

Revelation 2-13 posted:

There are (again) different ways of measuring it, here is a simple example which I really like, the question is about whether or not you'd want a neighbor of a difference race : https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/15/a-fascinating-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/

Of course, as with all measures of that sort there are several problems, but overall you'll find the same pattern in most of the easily available stuff on discrimination and racism. There is however, quite a spread in Europe, so probably some European countries would compare favorably to the US.

e:overall, what I was trying to say, is that the US fairly consistently scores as one of the countries in the world with highest race/ethnicity tolerance across many different ways of measuring those sorts of things. Which is different from whether the justice system is bad etc.

botany posted:

Yeah that's fine, I mostly wanted to know whether you were talking about individual discrimination or systemic racism.

Nelson Mandingo posted:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

God drat look at that Florida polling. Trump basically can't win without Florida, can he?

Jack's Flow posted:

I always thought trigger warnings are a good idea, until I read that New Yorker article on a liberal arts college where students demanded a trigger warning at the beginning of Antigone.

axe_vendetta posted:

Clinton has been talking up the Zika problem, which Trump and the Republicans have basically ignored.

dex_sda posted:

Wait, why? Antigone being buried alive?

quote:

This spring, at Oberlin, I tracked down Cyrus Eosphoros, the student who’d worried about the triggering effects of “Antigone.” We met at the Slow Train Café, a coffee joint on College Street, one of the two main streets that make up Oberlin’s downtown... In an Oberlin Review essay explaining his “Antigone” experience (it was Antigone’s case for suicide that concerned him), he argued that trigger warnings were like ingredient lists on food: “People should have the right to know and consent to what they’re putting into their minds, just as they have the right to know and consent to what they’re putting into their bodies.”

Jack's Flow posted:

I always thought trigger warnings are a good idea, until I read that New Yorker article on a liberal arts college where students demanded a trigger warning at the beginning of Antigone.

FactsAreUseless posted:

Jack's Flow posted:

I always thought trigger warnings are a good idea, until I read that New Yorker article on a liberal arts college where students demanded a trigger warning at the beginning of Antigone.

quote:

Our commitment to academic freedom means that we do not support so-called "trigger warnings," we do not cancel invited speakers because their topics might prove controversial, and we do not condone the creation of intellectual "safe spaces" where individuals can retreat from odds and perspectives at odds with their own.

FactsAreUseless posted:

Ze Pollack posted:

can't be done, unfortunately. i can get you an indirect one, however.

so, LF and /pol/, one of the bigger origin points of the alt-right, were created for the same reason: everyone was sick and tired of having to put up with the constant low-effort political trolling from libertarians. moderators looking to get rid of these insufferable fuckers created "containment boards" where these discussions could be shunted off to in order to stop bugging everyone else.

except whoops: it turns out that when you concentrate a bunch of loud ideology-havers in a single space with little to no moderation, they do not quietly die. the brownian motion of a bunch of ideologues yelling at each other without any oversight yields not death but mutation into newer and more virulent ideological strains. LF, due to its roots in left-wingers being allowed to finally call libertarians the gigantic pissbabies they are, rapidly went past Full Communism Now and was getting comfortable with Maoism-Third-Worldism. /pol/, due to coming about in 2011, when libertarians had for reasons totally unrelated to Barack Obama discovered racism was cool now, started with a firm founding of Hell Yes Racial Science and has since become the origins of the Anime Nazi aesthetic the alt-right is so fond of.

interestingly both became ridiculously obsessed with anime aesthetics.

so they both have the same origin: people figuring that if you stuck a bunch of nerds in the back of the fridge they would stop being a problem instead of fermenting and exploding messily.

Fangz posted:

I have an almost infinite contempt for those 'biblical literalists' who fixate on homosexuality or abortion, and then dance around excusing stuff like the parable of the Good Samaritan and the camel and the eye of a needle as 'stuff that have to be seen in a specific historical context', making them irrelevant today.

Geostomp posted:

Right wingers love the Bible, but only the parts that let them hurt someone different and think of themselves as the special chosen ones who can do no wrong.

Ice Phisherman posted:

I don't understand. What the hell is too pc for bible? Is this just some sort of nonsense argument or am I missing something easy? Is the bible somehow not politically correct?

FactsAreUseless posted:

I love that that's everyone's problem with that picture.

axe_vendetta posted:

I think demagogues like Trump are the inevitable conclusion of the casual, kneejerk contempt with which many people regard politics and the political class in this country. Whilst it's true that money has too much influence in politics, and that many politicians lack conviction and integrity, people use this as an excuse to tune out from serious political debate entirely and write off all politicians as the same. It's intellectual laziness and it needs to be confronted and rejected. I find it particularly annoying how these people who reject the whole political process assume a sense of superiority to anyone with actual political convictions as though they know the real truth and the rest of us who are actually trying to deal with issues are childish and foolish. We live in a democracy, however flawed, and if our political class is corrupt then that is a problem with the way we engage in politics.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

If you need trigger warnings before something like The Catcher in the Rye you belong in therapy and not in college. Sorry!

Geostomp posted:

Sniper Baboon sounds like a good Metal Gear boss, but I don't see how it makes you long for more nonsensical conspiracy theories exploiting an attack four years ago or the cherry picked Bible passages that conservatives use to justify their awfulness.

Darth Walrus posted:

Nanomachines, son.

axe_vendetta posted:

McGovern was hardly extremist, he merely wanted an end to the Vietnam war. The Democratic party simply couldn't produce a candidate like Trump, because he relies on the extreme right wing media that supports his conspiracy theories. I mean, what would the Democratic party equivalent of a Trump even look like?

greatn posted:

But what media apparatus would prop them up?

greatn posted:

But what media apparatus would prop them up?

GalacticAcid posted:

Tumblr

VitalSigns posted:

Right so the Democratic party even approaches pacifism or socialism they can't make 40%.

Not seeing how Actually Stalin would outdo McGovern.

Donkwich posted:

Didn't McKinney give us J-E-W-S? (from her father)

quote:

During the 2000 presidential campaign, McKinney wrote that "Al Gore's Negro tolerance level has never been too high. I've never known him to have more than one black person around him at any given time." Gore's campaign pointed out that its manager, Donna Brazile, was black.

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

True, but TV censorship is also nearly dead, and TV is a willing enterprise rather than a mandatory one. TV advisories are also meant for children.

FactsAreUseless posted: