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greatn posted:There is some reality to it, like students getting a production of Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson cancelled, or many instances of speakers being cancelled, some of them not even right wing assholes, but it's way overblown. Well yeah, of course there's somebody who fits the idea. I just can't believe supposedly progressive people unironically let right wingers make "social justice" a dirty word so they can get back at some perceived group of people too progressive for them, or whatever.
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zoux posted:Be careful loving around me without adequate caffination! This is just getting pathetic. Holy poo poo.
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Mika looks likes poo poo, goddamn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SDur-kzus8 She looks like I feel when I'm following this election. The fact that the most powerful country in the world could come even this close to electing this narcissistic con-artist makes me feel crazy. People are defending him on live television. The words they vomit out make absolutely no sense, but they continue to speak. Is this real life? Am I actually the crazy one and Trump is reasonable, and I've let myself live in an echo chamber like I've previously accused right wingers of doing? Is up down? I'm not Arzying, I know his chances of winning are ridiculously low. It's just the fact that we've got to this point seems absolutely absurd to me.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:This is just getting pathetic. Holy poo poo. trumpcampaign.txt looks like hillary's baiting worked
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:Look at this American exceptionalism crap Oh lol . Does the USA ban the Burqini? Do we ban minarets? Do we throw bananas at non white players? Do we burn down the homes of immigrants regularly?
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Luigi Thirty posted:Sorry, insurers are losing too much money on Obamacare. It's going to be... not good for Obama's legacy if the exchanges completely go under or insurance companies raise premiums steeply
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Aug 26, 2016 15:53
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zoux posted:Be careful loving around me without adequate caffination! *Trump sullenly sits in his office unable to figure out why minorities won't support him before making another appeal to the Alt Right, a group that talks about preserving the white race and how diversity is a bad thing for white people* Why can't they see reason and vote for me?
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Luigi Thirty posted:Sorry, insurers are losing too much money on Obamacare. They say this poo poo literally every year.
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Trump: "Its not like I've ruined people and short changed them, but I'll fix the poverty!"
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Currently trying to explain to my parents that Hillary is not actually in trouble for taking money from the founder of Boko Haram.
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Lightning Knight posted:Well yeah, of course there's somebody who fits the idea. I just can't believe supposedly progressive people unironically let right wingers make "social justice" a dirty word so they can get back at some perceived group of people too progressive for them, or whatever. These people obviously exist to some extent - they're just the huge drama queens we've always had, but they have co-opted language that keeps you from being able to question them. I was particularly irritated by a person claiming that they were being triggered by a photo of a billboard for X-men: Apocalypse, in which two giant monster people were fighting. There's definitely a contingent of big whiny babies who seriously undermine the very real PTSD some people deal with. That doesn't mean that they're the norm, though.
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Lightning Knight posted:Well yeah, of course there's somebody who fits the idea. I just can't believe supposedly progressive people unironically let right wingers make "social justice" a dirty word so they can get back at some perceived group of people too progressive for them, or whatever. Yeah I just had a heated argument with a friend about this, who frequently posts stuff about how the right wing is assholes, and how women deserve equal rights, all of a sudden turning around and saying people crying about trigger warnings need to buck up and deal with it and grow up. I'm like "Say you are teaching Spring Awakening and you get to the scene where there's date rape and are having a discussion on it. You realize statistically, at least one of your students has lyrically been date raped?" Just giving a content warning so people can know what to expect and leisure themselves for it is the least common courtesy you could do.
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Blisster posted:Mika looks likes poo poo, goddamn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SDur-kzus8 No. But it's always healthy to periodically question, am I presently the bad guy in this scenario?  Lotka Volterra posted:It's going to be... not good for Obama's legacy if the exchanges completely go under or insurance companies raise premiums steeply I mean we all knew Obamacare was a messy, stopgap measure at best. It was basically a soft failure as soon as they killed the public option, the insurance companies are just murdering it way faster than I think anyone expected them too. It's in their best interest to make a strong political statement against such actions. What I'm saying is we should nationalize the whole healthcare industry from top to bottom and anyone who has ever been a part of its management class should go to prison forever.
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mdemone posted:Currently trying to explain to my parents that Hillary is not actually in trouble for taking money from the founder of Boko Haram. How else is she going to stop terrorism????
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Crowsbeak posted:Do we burn down the homes of immigrants regularly? Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell...
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Lightning Knight posted:No. lol
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Lotka Volterra posted:It's going to be... not good for Obama's legacy if the exchanges completely go under or insurance companies raise premiums steeply Like any legislation it needs updating, we just have to hope Hillary can get it done. We need to target the providers.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:is there a word for when people spend too much time on the internet and extrapolate from tumblr or /pol/ into irl politics? there should be if not Voxxing
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Hey man. My dad just had to go to the hospital for diabetes onset. gently caress these people. 
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:They say this poo poo literally every year. With the recent pullout from Georgia's(?) exchange it does seem like there is some cause for concern.
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Lightning Knight posted:Hey man. My dad just had to go to the hospital for diabetes onset. gently caress these people. I am all to aware of how our system needs fixed, but  if you think full nationalization of the entire healthcare system is going to happen.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:This is just getting pathetic. Holy poo poo. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/769001435484688384 Yes, thank you for explaining what you were getting at by repeatedly calling it a short speech. (it was 37 minutes long)
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greatn posted:Like any legislation it needs updating, we just have to hope Hillary can get it done. We need to target the providers. There's a string of thought from the right that they think HRC will be more likely to compromise with them, which is hilarious because Obama would ahve always been willing to compromise with them on changes but they decided instead to just yammer on about repeal and replace.
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Lotka Volterra posted:It's going to be... not good for Obama's legacy if the exchanges completely go under or insurance companies raise premiums steeply At least one economist believes that that death spiral has already begun.
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Lotka Volterra posted:With the recent pullout from Georgia's(?) exchange it does seem like there is some cause for concern. To some degree, if a plan pulls out and it forces more exchange members to consolidate in fewer plans, don't those plans now higher insurance pools help slow down their rising costs?
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I am all to aware of how our system needs fixed, but Well no poo poo it's not going to happen, I was joking. I'm not THAT dumb. What's that one guy, Martin Skhreli? Maybe we can crowdsource just his public execution, I'm sure there's enough people who think he's an rear end in a top hat. We'll stick his head on a pike as a warning to other insurance companies, medieval style.
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Which is a minority view, as Kliff notes.
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Lotka Volterra posted:With the recent pullout from Georgia's(?) exchange it does seem like there is some cause for concern. It's not about profit margins. It's about brinksmanship over the DOJ blocking the Aetna/Humana merger. Shame if something were to happen to your signature legislation Mr. Obama and so forth.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/769001435484688384 Trump criticizing a Hillary speech for being light on policy is rich.
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/769001435484688384 I saw Hillary give an hour long speech in Cleveland last week and she didn't seem to lack any stamina. She even climbed some stairs to get to the podium!
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:There's a string of thought from the right that they think HRC will be more likely to compromise with them, which is hilarious because Obama would ahve always been willing to compromise with them on changes but they decided instead to just yammer on about repeal and replace. It's not just the right that thinks that.
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deathbysnusnu posted:It's not about profit margins. It's about brinksmanship over the DOJ blocking the Aetna/Humana merger. Shame if something were to happen to your signature legislation Mr. Obama and so forth. Oh, I'm aware of that much. It's just concerning that insurance companies essentially have the power to partially sabotage the ACA if they so choose. It relies on the benevolence of insurance providers which is not exactly comforting.
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What recourse would the government have if insurers all pulled out of the exchanges?
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No Butt Stuff posted:What recourse would the government have if insurers all pulled out of the exchanges? I'm fairly sure none, within the ACA, anyhow. That's apparently the problem, they weren't clever enough to make being a part of them required. I guess they could go after them with anti-trust law, in a retaliatory fashion, but that sounds like a bad, bad idea for a number of reasons.
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Lightning Knight posted:Well no poo poo it's not going to happen, I was joking. I'm not THAT dumb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47DfQcHMYLY
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greatn posted:To some degree, if a plan pulls out and it forces more exchange members to consolidate in fewer plans, don't those plans now higher insurance pools help slow down their rising costs? Yeah, and then those fewer companies' profits could shrink further forcing them to consolidate, and then again until there's only one insurer left. And even then they'd probably just get bogged down in paperwork, so what we could do is, instead of every American writing health insurance checks individually, we could just hand our money to the government maybe every April and the government could just pay that company all at once. Like some sort of singular payment system.
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No Butt Stuff posted:What recourse would the government have if insurers all pulled out of the exchanges? Insurers pull out, people froth at having to pay $800 for their butt meds, and Hillary ascends the throne, calling for a grand
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I've never watched this show but this was hilarious and you're the best.
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