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Barlow posted:Because it would lead to pretty obvious government establishment of religion for the state to define who could be a church attender or member. It's the same reason that ministerial hiring is not subject to anti-discrimination laws and you can't sue a Catholic Church for not hiring a women. Do churches need to follow the same rules as other non-profits? Honestly curious here
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Church culture can be welcoming or not welcoming to certain groups without doing anything illegal. The problem isn't that some mostly white churches bar minorities from going, but whether or not their environment is one minorities want to keep worshipping in.
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How are churches distinguished from other organizations, constitutionally speaking? Scientology fought long and hard for its tax exempt status which it only managed to get by fighting dirty with the IRS. The Establishment Clause seems anachronistic to me, since it originated in a time in which all deeply held philosophical and moral convictions where of a spiritual and religious nature. These days people can have strong beliefs of a non-religious variety and the EC has led to ridiculous situations like prisoners being required to be given Kosher and Halal food if they are Jewish or Muslim but not vegetarian food if they are against the consumption of meat on ethical grounds.
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Come on Donald. Do everything in your power to convince him otherwise. Your ego demands this. Also you are reading this thread, since it contains your name.
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AMorePerfctGoonion posted:How are churches distinguished from other organizations, constitutionally speaking? Scientology fought long and hard for its tax exempt status which it only managed to get by fighting dirty with the IRS. The Establishment Clause seems anachronistic to me, since it originated in a time in which all deeply held philosophical and moral convictions where of a spiritual and religious nature. These days people can have strong beliefs of a non-religious variety and the EC has led to ridiculous situations like prisoners being required to be given Kosher and Halal food if they are Jewish or Muslim but not vegetarian food if they are against the consumption of meat on ethical grounds. I imagine if a group of ethical vegetarians goes on a hunger strike while in coordination with national vegetarian groups, something might get done, too. 
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QuarkJets posted:Do churches need to follow the same rules as other non-profits? Honestly curious here There are like 30 different varieties of nonprofit under US code 501(c) with their own requirements, limitations, and benefits.
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AMorePerfctGoonion posted:How are churches distinguished from other organizations, constitutionally speaking? Scientology fought long and hard for its tax exempt status which it only managed to get by fighting dirty with the IRS. The Establishment Clause seems anachronistic to me, since it originated in a time in which all deeply held philosophical and moral convictions where of a spiritual and religious nature. These days people can have strong beliefs of a non-religious variety and the EC has led to ridiculous situations like prisoners being required to be given Kosher and Halal food if they are Jewish or Muslim but not vegetarian food if they are against the consumption of meat on ethical grounds. Honestly I'm not sure what you're really trying to ask - most of the stuff you talk about boils down to simple precedent from centuries of legal rulings, often extending back to before the US existed by being part of common law. You'd need a couple semesters of legal training to really have it explained. As to tax-exempt status in particular, there are many different kinds of it and the rules on getting that can be found in various federal/state laws and the regulations the IRS et al issue, plus additionally in court cases.
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happyhippy posted:I will however star in anything if you throw money at me. XXX: State of the Union is a masterpiece
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happyhippy posted:I will however star in anything if you throw money at me. And? Look if you throw enough money at me you might be able to convince me to do p much anything.
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happyhippy posted:I will however star in anything if you throw money at me. Still waiting for my Nick Cage, Ice Cube buddy cop movie.
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happyhippy posted:I will however star in anything if you throw money at me. So? What films SHOULD he be taking, since you object to how this man makes his money?
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SedanChair posted:As crazy as this election is, I didn't see Kaepernick doing something of value. Neither have 49ers fans since the 2013 season ended.
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Gyges posted:Even within white Southern Baptist churches there's a variety of opinions. This is because Southern Baptist Convention members pride themselves on escalating petty and doctrinal arguments within an individual congregation to the point where the congregation splits and suddenly there's a new Baptist Church in town that really hates the one down the street. Then they grow a little, and the cycle repeats itself. That's why every town locality in the South has at least 4 Baptist churches no matter how low the population.. If you go back far enough the original split between Baptist and Southern Baptist, or Northern and Southern was over the issue of slavery. Specifically whether slave owners could serve as missionaries. The problem of slavery and Christianity split a few other protestant sects into slave/free factions as well. It's not anything new, but many Southern forms of Christianity have their roots as splinter sects rooted in slavery and for many churches that culture of racism never really disappeared. It only diminished. Splitting the church over politics or interpretations of the bible is nothing new, big or small. Christianity is amazingly fractious when you look at it closely enough. Some days I'm surprised that they're not still killing one another in sectarian violence for all of the rhetoric they spout.
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Seems I offended some CSI fans.
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What's the usual delay of tracking opinions in polls? If Trump says something worse than ever before, how many days would it take to see a dip in his ratings? (If we'd assume anyone who decided to vote for him could still change their mind.)
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St. Dogbert posted:Neither have 49ers fans since the 2013 season ended.  Dr Cheeto posted:Are We There Yet is a masterpiece
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Dr Cheeto posted:XXX: State of the Union is a masterpiece Word. They should make a third one and put Ice Cube, Vin Diesel, and Jason Statham in it. It would be glorious. 
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Aug 27, 2016 21:47
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There is a third one, but just Vin Diesel
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Trump just used his DWade tweet in the live speech he just gave. What a piece of poo poo. Remember that Wade was one of the 4 athletes who spoke at the ESPYs against institutional racisism. I hope he calls out Trump and Lebron/Melo join him.
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greatn posted:There is a third one, but just Vin Diesel  it has Jet Li too. Should I be hype or afraid? How do I react to such news?
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iospace posted:Saves money /and/ helps the unfortunate? Only a braindead idiot would be opposed to that. But we'd end up rewarding them for losing everything and all the lessers would just stop working if we didn't constantly shame them for failing to be rich.
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happyhippy posted:Seems I offended some CSI fans. What does Ice Cube have to do with CSI?
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Fluffdaddy posted:What does Ice Cube have to do with CSI? all black people look alike
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mandatory lesbian posted:all black people look alike What's sad is he is either mistaking Ice-T, who is on SVU, or LL Cool J, who is on CSI.
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You can't have iced tea without ice cubes
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Lightning Knight posted:
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Trump just can't stop talking about the blacks, yet he's not learning how to not talk *at* them. Hillary must've really gotten under his skin.
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Sir Tonk posted:Trump just can't stop talking about the blacks, yet he's not learning how to not talk *at* them. Hillary must've really gotten under his skin.
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So I've seen the same Trump ad several times on SA. Now I just saw my first Gary Johnson ad.
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Sir Tonk posted:You can't have iced tea without ice cubes you can put sweet tea in the fridge 
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:you can put sweet tea in the fridge That ain't iced tea.
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The Shortest Path posted:That ain't iced tea. Correct, it's a lasagna.
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I know Johnson is throwing a few million in ads around the battleground states. Didn't Trump already give up on ads? Pretty funny if the libertarian candidate is outspending the Republican.
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FuzzySlippers posted:Didn't Trump already give up on ads? Can't give up if you never tried in the first place
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FuzzySlippers posted:Didn't Trump already give up on ads? Giving up would require him to have begun running ads
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