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The Puppy Bowl posted:I don't think that's fair to say. There are too many variables that could account for Trump's general election unpopularity outside of poor ground game. This is looking to be an excellent experiment in what the worst possible result for the GOP can be in an Presidential election year. No ground game, actively antagonizing nearly every demographic other than old white dudes, especially pissing off those most likely to be missed in polling, causing major segments of the party to be in open revolt, and spending absolutely no money on advertising.
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PhazonLink posted:Yeah, sweet tea is sugar water with tea flavoring. LOL at 400.x g of sugar/ mL. God no wonder The South has diabetes. Oh gently caress you summoned Popular Thug Drink
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Inferior Third Season posted:Though he's not the billionaire he claims to be, he has enough money to live comfortably for the next 15 or so years he's got left on this Earth. What he really wanted was respect from those who have slighted him or who hang around in more prestigious circles. And there, he has failed miserably, and the best part is I don't think he yet realizes how fast he'll be dumped by the few clingers-on that he currently has after he loses. He will be completely shut out from the only groups and individuals he cares about, and it will be glorious.
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I don't know who Dwyane Wade is. Please compare him to a mid-90's basketball star.
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^^^ Gary Payton  Gyges posted:This is looking to be an excellent experiment in what the worst possible result for the GOP can be in an Presidential election year. No ground game, actively antagonizing nearly every demographic other than old white dudes, especially pissing off those most likely to be missed in polling, causing major segments of the party to be in open revolt, and spending absolutely no money on advertising. This I buy. The only problem it presents is for 2020. Viscerally annihilating Trump doesn't really prove anything about Clinton's electability. I guess the upshot is that she has always polled more positively while in office than while running, so incumbency could give her a bigger boost than usual. Plus the 4 years of competent executive governance. That'll be nice too.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:^^^ Lol if you think the loudest voices in the room will crow over a Democratic president's competence.
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Dr Christmas posted:What if Trump decides to run again in 2020? President Hilldawg will breathe a sigh of relief.
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Dr Christmas posted:What if Trump decides to run again in 2020?
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Moxie posted:Lol if you think the loudest voices in the room will crow over a Democratic president's competence. No no no. I just meant that President Clinton part deux will be a nice side effect of Trump getting smashed into a pile of golden goo on November 8th.
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Dr Christmas posted:What if Trump decides to run again in 2020? doubt it, he'll be busy running Trump TV.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:^^^ Assuming she doesn't laugh manically as soon as Roberts swears her in and immediately prove every fear of the left true, she's probably going to be in a stronger position come 2020. Also assuming there isn't a financial meltdown. Republicans are still going to have to run the Tea Party gauntlet in order to win the primary, with ol' Ted Cruz as the likely front runner. Meanwhile if she gets even a quarter of the Democratic Platform through the Democratic Party will be unified in pushing for her reelection, letting her coast through the primary cycle while the GOP repeatedly shoots itself in the foot with no alternative narrative for the press to dwell on.
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Not to mention it's another 4 years for the republican constituency to die off and for Texas to turn a little bluer.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI9qYtpP4R0 ♪ Blacks are too loving broke to be Republican ♪
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Even with the incumbency advantage and demographic advantage Democrats will have, I worry that an uncooperative House still controlled by the Republicans (and quite likely a Republican Senate again after 2018) plus just the weight of twelve years of one party being in the White House will make things a lot harder for Hillary in 2020. Assuming the Republicans don't run someone as disastrous as Trump again.
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Only worry if they actually start to target and campaign towards Hispanics.
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The post 2016-GOP attempts to rebuild are going to be interesting. There's a lot of cracks in the party that they're going to have to fill.
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Dexo posted:Only worry if they actually start to target* and campaign towards** Hispanics. *In the hopes of getting their votes. ** not in the military sense of the word campaign With how the GOP rhetoric has been going you really need to specify.
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So are we expecting more deadlock if the House remains slightly republican majority during Clinton's first years?
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Gyges posted:This is looking to be an excellent experiment in what the worst possible result for the GOP can be in an Presidential election year. No ground game, actively antagonizing nearly every demographic other than old white dudes, especially pissing off those most likely to be missed in polling, causing major segments of the party to be in open revolt, and spending absolutely no money on advertising. It could be worse. Trump could have been running against a better candidate that wasn't smeared for 2 decades.
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Grouchio posted:So are we expecting more deadlock if the House remains slightly republican majority during Clinton's first years? Pretty much. Temporary goodbye to the alt-right, horrible return of the salt-right.
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Grouchio posted:So are we expecting more deadlock if the House remains slightly republican majority during Clinton's first years? I think that goes without saying.
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Shifty Pony posted:*In the hopes of getting their votes. I mean also worry if they do that, kinda hard for the Dems to win if the Republican's literally remove an entire minority demographic.
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TVarmy posted:I honestly think Trump straight up doing nothing would make his poll numbers rise the most at this point. He can't not hurt his campaign, so just shut down the rallies and his Twitter. Let the media scrutinize Clinton without him hogging the spotlight any time the news gets half critical. He can't. As a massive narcissist he must be the center of attention at all times.
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Pakled posted:Even with the incumbency advantage and demographic advantage Democrats will have, I worry that an uncooperative House still controlled by the Republicans (and quite likely a Republican Senate again after 2018) plus just the weight of twelve years of one party being in the White House will make things a lot harder for Hillary in 2020. Assuming the Republicans don't run someone as disastrous as Trump again. I kind of have the same concern, but at the same time, where does the GOP go from here that can build them a winning Presidential strategy? They've tried regular old white guys and Obama murdered them both; they're not trying crazy old rear end in a top hat and at this stage we're just debating how bad Hilldawg's devastating chaos dunk will be. Another four years means the demographics shift a little more against the GOP. But they are constitutionally incapable of any meaningful shift towards policies that will actually win appreciable numbers of minority votes, because their base and the people who decide their candidates are all rabid white shitfuckers who chose Trump. They can have their base or they can try to court new groups, but few will be suckered by the latter path, and if it's actually a serious change in policies that really will sway lots of minorities, then they lose their base. Even if they don't vote Trumpsstaffel in 2020, a lot of them will stay home or at least fail to help GOTV efforts with money or work. I mean, maybe they have an Obama-tier campaigner with incredible charisma waiting in the wings, but nobody could point to who that is today. And they'd have to have a good mind for policies as well, but the only people in the GOP who were trying to push serious, sane, widely-appealing policies in the primaries got crushed (Hi Jon Huntsman).
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Rubio had so much potential to be just that. If only he actually showed up to work and wasn't a robot.
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Someone please post that garbage political cartoon where there was a football field and the Republican bench was full of gigantic strong players and the Democratic bench had a tiny cheerleader Hillary. It might have been a Ramirez. It's funny as gently caress to think about how literally every single GOP primary candidate is now irreparably damaged.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Someone please post that garbage political cartoon where there was a football field and the Republican bench was full of gigantic strong players and the Democratic bench had a tiny cheerleader Hillary. It might have been a Ramirez. It wasn't even Hillary, it was Biden lol
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Mel Mudkiper posted:It wasn't even Hillary, it was Biden lol What the gently caress, really?
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Dexo posted:Rubio had so much potential to be just that. If only he actually showed up to work and wasn't a robot. He's probably still their best shot, but if he gets beaten by Murphy his only lifeline is being the Governor of Florida for a couple months before declaring his candidacy for 2020. Maybe Sandoval in Nevada? The biggest obstacle is still going to be the GOP primary though. Ted Cruz is going to spend the next 4 years preparing to suck up the Trump leftovers and meld them with his crew, and there's going to be at least 1 Trump style wild card and 2 or 3 "reasonable, establishment" types.
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Mister Adequate posted:I kind of have the same concern, but at the same time, where does the GOP go from here that can build them a winning Presidential strategy? They've tried regular old white guys and Obama murdered them both; they're not trying crazy old rear end in a top hat and at this stage we're just debating how bad Hilldawg's devastating chaos dunk will be. Another four years means the demographics shift a little more against the GOP. But they are constitutionally incapable of any meaningful shift towards policies that will actually win appreciable numbers of minority votes, because their base and the people who decide their candidates are all rabid white shitfuckers who chose Trump. They can have their base or they can try to court new groups, but few will be suckered by the latter path, and if it's actually a serious change in policies that really will sway lots of minorities, then they lose their base. Even if they don't vote Trumpsstaffel in 2020, a lot of them will stay home or at least fail to help GOTV efforts with money or work. I think a big part of that question is going to be if anyone capable of winning the general will survive their primary. Rubio and Kasich - I think we can safely disregard Jeb at this point - probably could have put up a convincing fight against Hillary. Both got mauled in the primary by the likes of Trump and Cruz, and I don't think Cruz would be faring a whole lot better against Hillary right now.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What the gently caress, really? lol yup  There is also an interesting prejudice in the fact he chose to present Fiorina as a man as a sign of strength and Biden as a woman as a sign of weakness
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What the gently caress, really? The real punchline is that the entire GOP team was riding the bench because Hilary was on the field. 
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Dexo posted:Rubio had so much potential to be just that. If only he actually showed up to work and wasn't a robot. I'm holding out for a Butch Otter run, although maybe he should retire on the highlight of literally Alpha Housing his primary opponent in the greatest gubernatorial debate in American history. 
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Mel Mudkiper posted:lol yup This fucker has won multiple Pulitzers.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:lol yup When you have, uh, 11? QBs you have no QB.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37204837quote:The BBC said:
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