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Nibbles! posted:Not to mention certain members have also stated they'd ignore the result of a plebiscite if it went against their world view anyway. So I was gonna say this too but I wasn't sure it was true. Is it seriously non binding to actual legislation?
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Maluco Marinero posted:So I was gonna say this too but I wasn't sure it was true. Is it seriously non binding to actual legislation? Yep, it carries no more legal weight than a Newspoll.
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Comstar posted:So that's the end result of designing a system like that. Gorbash posted:So Labor seem likely to oppose the plebiscite - that's a good thing, yeah? Labor are ultimately unlikely to support a vote in parliament because they also are beholding to their bigoted right wing conservatives. Someone is doing the numbers I'm sure but there is still the posibility of collateral damage from someone publicly splitting (ala DLP). So basically what ewe2 said.
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Maluco Marinero posted:So I was gonna say this too but I wasn't sure it was true. Is it seriously non binding to actual legislation? It's not legally binding but when members are elected to reflect the views of their constitutes it's an affront to the process that they would ignore the result.
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You Am I posted:It's kinda ironic that those morons belt on about how backwards it is for Muslim women to wear head scarves and yet here we are it's those drat leftists preventing us from showing our faces!!!!!
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FoDI coming http://fodi.sydneyoperahouse.com/home/how-many-dangerous-ideas-can-one-person-have/ http://fodi.sydneyoperahouse.com/home/cheaters-sex-addicts-and-pickup-artists/ Lid fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Aug 28, 2016 |
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Cartoon posted:Labor are ultimately unlikely to support a vote in parliament because they also are beholding to their bigoted right wing conservatives. Someone is doing the numbers I'm sure but there is still the posibility of collateral damage from someone publicly splitting (ala DLP). More than that, the ALP have been deciding tactics depending on whether they can disagree with the Greens and blame them when a vote fails. That both majors are claiming helplessness against a minor party is indicative of the complete farce and dishonesty with which this and other issues are treated. There are a sizeable amount of MPs in both majors who want the issue settled but cannot make themselves heard over this stupidity. This parliament will be exceptionally interesting to watch because the ALP now have less choice about disagreeing with the Greens if it wants to win a vote; if enough cross-benchers support a Greens position all is lost. Consequently the desire to cause a rift between the Greens and cross-benchers is too great for either major to resist. Central to all this is the need to not actually address an issue; if its too complex or too hard, all the better to string it out over the course of a term and avoid actually doing anything. Look at 18c and marriage equality, both could be "solved" by the most minor of legislation, and look at the stunts around it. The LNP don't actually want to fix 18c, everyone knows its 18d and the Right don't want to change an issue that they get support from the base on. The base thinks it's Malcolm's fault and that suits the Right. The ALP don't want to fix marriage equality, it's too good an issue to distract the government with. The base thinks it's the Greens fault and that suits the ALP Right. But the real issues they're both avoiding are economic. That's why culture wars are suddenly very important. But the Senate has different ideas, hopefully.
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Bolt on FODI posted:He is married with three children and two dogs. Bolt making a strong play on the gay marriage slippery slope argument.
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Nibbles! posted:It's not legally binding but when members are elected to reflect the views of their constitutes it's an affront to the process that they would ignore the result. This is the main reason to support the plebiscite in my opinion. I wouldn't bet on separate legislation passing, and I'm sure that the Liberal party is only too happy to shrug and say 'at least we tried'. If a plebiscite is held and the legislation isn't passed in the way that the public expects, then it will sink the Liberal party. Hell, the party might tear itself apart even if everything passes without a hitch. At least with a plebiscite, you will have a festering wound that will come back to bite them in the rear end, similar to what has been happening with the NBN.
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gently caress the plebicite. Sticking it in 2017 so you can have a year long period of throwing poo poo at LGBT? gently caress you. Imagine the Safe Schools bullshit turned up to 11 and going on for the whole time and I'm going to kill myself Synthbuttrange fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Aug 28, 2016 |
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SynthOrange posted:gently caress the plebicite. Sticking it in 2017 so you can have a year long period of throwing poo poo at LGBT? gently caress you. They have the excuse that the AEC can't actually organise one until next year in February some time.
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Tokamak posted:This is the main reason to support the plebiscite in my opinion. I wouldn't bet on separate legislation passing, and I'm sure that the Liberal party is only too happy to shrug and say 'at least we tried'. If a plebiscite is held and the legislation isn't passed in the way that the public expects, then it will sink the Liberal party. Hell, the party might tear itself apart even if everything passes without a hitch. At least with a plebiscite, you will have a festering wound that will come back to bite them in the rear end, similar to what has been happening with the NBN. It's a choice between the lesser of two evils. Personally I feel like the damage that a plebiscite campaign is likely to do to (especially young/closeted) queer people is worse than the good of probably having marriage equality sooner. The Liberal party seems to be doing pretty good at tearing themselves to pieces even without holding the plebiscite and I don't think it's worth the heartache.
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SynthOrange posted:gently caress the plebicite. Sticking it in 2017 so you can have a year long period of throwing poo poo at LGBT? gently caress you. at least there will be plenty of opportunity for protesting and smashing the fash, friend 
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I can actually imagine the fascists might lose a lot of support if they start organising against same sex marriage. probably just more negative publicity. The Perth branch of the UPF/TBC have taken an active stance against Safe Schools and SSM (even attacked Safe Schools protestors).
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ewe2 posted:They have the excuse that the AEC can't actually organise one until next year in February some time.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I can actually imagine the fascists might lose a lot of support if they start organising against same sex marriage. Nah, people don't care. When I pointed out Hanson's "gay marriage is icky and would lead to people marrying animals and children" stance to a cousin who has a gay sister and was posting stuff celebrating Hanson's election they were just like "I just know she's going to clean up our backyard," and plenty of my relatives that are queer friendly have no problem sharing "I EAT PORK gently caress MOOSLEMEN" memes from pages that post just as much "gently caress fags lol, Safe Schools is Cultural Marxist brainwashing" poo poo as they do Islamophobic stuff. People compartmentalise that stuff just fine.
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A plebiscite will be fiiiiiiine: A man has been arrested and charged after allegedly putting hydrochloric acid inside what is understood to be a lubricant dispenser at a gay club in Sydney's north-west. Police said the 62-year-old man went into the Bridge Street premises in Rydalmere on Saturday, filling a dispenser inside a room with the highly corrosive acid. The ABC understands the club in question is the Aarows club, which describes itself as "Sydney's gay and bi social club" with "three levels of adult adventure". Items in the room had been fitted with alarms after they had previously been tampered with in a similar way, police said. Security stopped the man before police arrested him, officers said. Hydrochloric acid is a strong, corrosive acid which can produce burns, ulcers and scars when put into contact with skin. The man has been charged with a range of offences, including administering poison with the intent to cause injury, distress or pain, and malicious damage. He has been granted bail to appear at Parramatta Local Court next month. ABSOLUTELY FINE!
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Recoome posted:nah it's full of his patriotic poo poo, but it's in the style of colours. https://twitter.com/tajournalist/status/769732342688587776
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I heard that bunnings won't let you sell bacon or pork sausages if you're doing a bbq in their carpark!
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Jumpingmanjim posted:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-28/man-arrested-over-adding-hydrochloric-acid-to-gay-club-dispenser/7792338?WT.tsrc=Facebook Did he think people put lube straight into their junk from the dispenser? Or was he going a hurr, I'ma gently caress some ppls hands up
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Mr Chips posted:I heard that bunnings won't let you sell bacon or pork sausages if you're doing a bbq in their carpark! NO CHRISTMAS LIGHTS IN <town>
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BlitzkriegOfColour posted:Did he think
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Starshark posted:NO CHRISTMAS LIGHTS IN <town> Or decorations on the bus. 
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Recoome posted:nah it's full of his patriotic poo poo, but it's in the style of colours. ISLAM S L A M
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Sydney's lockout laws are popularSMH posted:A majority of NSW voters say the controversial "lockout" laws in Sydney's centre should be extended across the state and three-quarters of young people support existing laws, an exclusive Fairfax poll has found.
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Libs still salty about mediscare, bother to make a press release qq'ing all about it. Read if you give a gently caress. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-28/medicare-figures-prove-labor-campaign-has-no-basis-ley-says/7791682
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You Am I posted:It's kinda ironic that those morons belt on about how backwards it is for Muslim women to wear head scarves and yet here we are I call bandannas worn like that, by people like that, Hjidiots: hijabs for idiots. NewMars fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Aug 28, 2016 |
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The results were weighted to reflect gender and age. People with landlines don't like going out and they only got one or two to answer?
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I thought this was amusingquote:According to an online audit of the prime minister's official Twitter account almost half his followers are considered fake. This was pretty funny too quote:The plain fact is that, albeit by a nose, the Coalition won government. They thus get to put the main shape on savings and should be supported. Not just by Labor but by all the independents who presumably realise they are there not for themselves but for a better Australia, for all of us.  why won't they let them govern?? The libs are starting to sound a bit pissed off that Bill is sounding more prime ministerial than the actual PM I guess
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quote:Credit where it's due: 60 Minutes' in-depth profile of Pauline Hanson was forensically reported, impeccably scripted, an interviewing masterclass and will stand the test of time as a brilliant piece of television journalism on one of the political phenomenons of our time.  goddammit Xenophons' going to support the pleb Synthbuttrange fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Aug 29, 2016 |
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Sydney's lockout laws are popular Wait, Australians are authoritarians? Say it ain't so! I see plenty of young people defending these laws, so I don't think the result is due to a biased sample.
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