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Flavivirus
Dec 14, 2011

The next stage of evolution.

Ettin posted:

This seems like a good post to end this on, so I am putting a lid on this for now before you folks start eating each other. Post about Mint Works or Fragged Empires or What Ho, World! or something.

Speaking of What Ho, World!, now that it's funded I'm hoping we can unlock one of the extra settings. I'm pretty partial to Wizards Aren't Gentlemen - something about mad hermits and bound demons feels like it'd work really well with the system. On the other hand mixing Lovecrafty stuff and Wodehouse has a long pedigree - Alan Moore's What Ho, Gods of the Abyss is amazing. Anyone have any ideas of other settings that might work for a game of social obligation and farce?

Weirdly enough it was Mikan's Brighter Than the Sun that started me thinking about an RPG played entirely with a card deck, and eventually lead to What Ho, World! It's a drat shame she's not still around :(

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Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009

Flavivirus posted:

Speaking of What Ho, World!, now that it's funded I'm hoping we can unlock one of the extra settings. I'm pretty partial to Wizards Aren't Gentlemen - something about mad hermits and bound demons feels like it'd work really well with the system. On the other hand mixing Lovecrafty stuff and Wodehouse has a long pedigree - Alan Moore's What Ho, Gods of the Abyss is amazing. Anyone have any ideas of other settings that might work for a game of social obligation and farce?

Weirdly enough it was Mikan's Brighter Than the Sun that started me thinking about an RPG played entirely with a card deck, and eventually lead to What Ho, World! It's a drat shame she's not still around :(

What Ho, American Congress. Add Lovecraftian horrors. Mix well.

unseenlibrarian
Jun 4, 2012

There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Flavivirus posted:

Speaking of What Ho, World!, now that it's funded I'm hoping we can unlock one of the extra settings. I'm pretty partial to Wizards Aren't Gentlemen - something about mad hermits and bound demons feels like it'd work really well with the system. On the other hand mixing Lovecrafty stuff and Wodehouse has a long pedigree - Alan Moore's What Ho, Gods of the Abyss is amazing. Anyone have any ideas of other settings that might work for a game of social obligation and farce?


The Thin Man/Miss Fisher Mysteries style detective stories seem like at least a viable angle to try. Upper class detectives butting into crimes with charm and a lot of booze.

Flavivirus
Dec 14, 2011

The next stage of evolution.

unseenlibrarian posted:

The Thin Man/Miss Fisher Mysteries style detective stories seem like at least a viable angle to try. Upper class detectives butting into crimes with charm and a lot of booze.

Ooh, yes. I'd be tempted to try out if we could make that work with the existing character decks and a different set of Assets and Goals, but once you bring in Poirot and Miss Marple too it's definitely a viable angle. Good call on politics too - a Yes, Minister or The Thick of It hack could work pretty well.

Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

Arivia posted:

I believe her last act was to release the entire thing free as CC, but do not take me as an authority on that.

It was released for free but only privately. If there's a CC license associated with it, it's not seemingly included as part of the final compilation. If any goons want a copy of Last Stand and associated games, though, just PM me (Mikan gave explicit permission for folks to do so, so that should be fine).

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009

Flavivirus posted:

Ooh, yes. I'd be tempted to try out if we could make that work with the existing character decks and a different set of Assets and Goals, but once you bring in Poirot and Miss Marple too it's definitely a viable angle. Good call on politics too - a Yes, Minister or The Thick of It hack could work pretty well.

Heard of Yes, Minister but what is The Thick of It?

What's a good entry into Jeeves and Wooster for someone who has never read them?

CottonWolf
Jul 20, 2012

Good ideas generator

Helical Nightmares posted:

Heard of Yes, Minister but what is The Thick of It?

It's basically Yes, Minister for the New Labour era. A comedy about a load of spin doctors in Whitehall 'helping' a minister for an imaginary department, and his aides. It features some of the most effective swearing on TV coming out of the mouth of Dr Who. Well worth a watch.

UrbanLabyrinth
Jan 28, 2009

When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light
That split the night
And touched the sound of silence


College Slice

Helical Nightmares posted:

Heard of Yes, Minister but what is The Thick of It?

Veep, UK edition

unseenlibrarian
Jun 4, 2012

There's only one thing in the mountains that leaves a track like this. The creature of legend that roams the Timberline. My people named him Sasquatch. You call him... Bigfoot.

Helical Nightmares posted:

Heard of Yes, Minister but what is The Thick of It?

What's a good entry into Jeeves and Wooster for someone who has never read them?

Well, Hulu's got 4 seasons of the ITV series based on the books, with Fry as Jeeves and Laurie as Bertie.

Peas and Rice
Jul 14, 2004

Honor and profit.

unseenlibrarian posted:

Well, Hulu's got 4 seasons of the ITV series based on the books, with Fry as Jeeves and Laurie as Bertie.

There is no better introduction and the show is probably better than reading the books.

Flavivirus
Dec 14, 2011

The next stage of evolution.

Peas and Rice posted:

There is no better introduction and the show is probably better than reading the books.

There are also some pretty good audiobooks for the stories too - The Code of the Woosters is one I particularly enjoyed recently. The TV show is really great though!

DigitalRaven
Oct 9, 2012




Helical Nightmares posted:

Heard of Yes, Minister but what is The Thick of It?

Yes, Minister with proper swearing. Production discussions with the BBC would include phrases like "I know we've got five cunts and you think thats too much. If we drop ten of the fucks can we keep the cunts?"

It gave us Tucker's Law: "If some oval office can gently caress something up, that oval office will pick the worst possible time to loving gently caress up because that oval office's a oval office."

(If you think that's excessive swearing, you've never been to Scotland)

quote:

What's a good entry into Jeeves and Wooster for someone who has never read them?

The Fry & Laurie ITV version is pretty much the definitive.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




DigitalRaven posted:

Yes, Minister with proper swearing. Production discussions with the BBC would include phrases like "I know we've got five cunts and you think thats too much. If we drop ten of the fucks can we keep the cunts?"

It gave us Tucker's Law: "If some oval office can gently caress something up, that oval office will pick the worst possible time to loving gently caress up because that oval office's a oval office."

(If you think that's excessive swearing, you've never been to Scotland)

"How dare you! How dare you! Don't you ever, EVER, call me a bully! I'm so much worse than that."

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

DigitalRaven posted:

Yes, Minister with proper swearing. Production discussions with the BBC would include phrases like "I know we've got five cunts and you think thats too much. If we drop ten of the fucks can we keep the cunts?"

It gave us Tucker's Law: "If some oval office can gently caress something up, that oval office will pick the worst possible time to loving gently caress up because that oval office's a oval office."

Having worked at Westminster/the Palace, can confirm people do actually talk like that there. They like to think they're a bit Malcolm Tucker. :jerkbag:

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

One Night Ultimate Alien is up. Looks like it is much more app focused this time around.

Hiro Protagonist
Oct 25, 2010

Last of the freelance hackers and
Greatest swordfighter in the world
Lotus Dimension is a game about nonviolent solution solving based on the eight fold noble path of Buddhism. An interesting idea, but the art, or lack there of, is a bit irritating.

Peas and Rice
Jul 14, 2004

Honor and profit.
That's a really interesting idea, but I'm not sure about the execution.

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Peas and Rice posted:

That's a really interesting idea, but I'm not sure about the execution.

Yeah, this looks very D&D but DIFFERENT if you read the FAQ.

Put it in the heartbreaker pile.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

GrandpaPants posted:

One Night Ultimate Alien is up. Looks like it is much more app focused this time around.

Hmm, $25 minimum pledge. Exactly the same price it'll be in stores.

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



Fenarisk posted:

Also my worldview on that is a little sketch (and I know this) because I worked in the car industry for 5 years where that kind of behavior is normal/tolerated and you're flat out unemployed if you can't harden yourself to racial/ethnic/sexual slurs both in and out of work, even from management (I had a manager text me at night when one of my customers was mad that if I gently caress up again he's getting his biker friends to come 'rape my n-word woman', if that gives a good example), so that mistake is all on me.

Fenarisk posted:

that kind of behavior is normal/tolerated and you're flat out unemployed if you can't harden yourself to racial/ethnic/sexual slurs both in and out of work, even from management

jc no it isn't

Hiro Protagonist
Oct 25, 2010

Last of the freelance hackers and
Greatest swordfighter in the world

fez_machine posted:

Yeah, this looks very D&D but DIFFERENT if you read the FAQ.

Put it in the heartbreaker pile.

Wait, how is it like D&D?

Fenarisk
Oct 27, 2005

Cat Face Joe posted:

jc no it isn't

Believe it or not, in the car industry it absolutely is, and is one of the main reasons I spent every waking hour the past two years working to get out of it and into something where I can give back to people. It's not like I could just quit and magically my bills would be paid, so I endured some awful poo poo until I could save enough. Hell, even then the general manager was pissed when I gave my two week notice and ran a dozen or so hard credit checks on the sales side with my employee info and tanked my credit score about 100 points because he knew I was looking for school loans. I wouldn't wish that poo poo on anyone, trust me. Most people haven't experienced it and even when I apologized for being wrong on here I ended up with this lovely red text as a reminder so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edit: Anyway, real content, Beneath Nexus looks like a fun dungeon crawling game without the massive room needed for something like Descent, but a little more substance than the Pathfinder card game. Only thing that's a little lacking is the card art imo.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/silverclutchgames/beneath-nexus-an-asymmetrical-dungeon-crawling-car?ref=category

Fenarisk fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Aug 30, 2016

Helical Nightmares
Apr 30, 2009
Hope you left the rear end in a top hat a nice report at the Better Business Bureau, for as much good as that does.

Edit: also thank you for all the recommendations above gents. :toot:

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

GrandpaPants posted:

One Night Ultimate Alien is up. Looks like it is much more app focused this time around.

And it looks loving terrible. For example, if the Blob is in the game it's impossible for the Village to win if there are any un-absorbed Aliens.

inklesspen
Oct 17, 2007

Here I am coming, with the good news of me, and you hate it. You can think only of the bell and how much I have it, and you are never the goose. I will run around with my bell as much as I want and you will make despair.
Buglord

Hiro Protagonist posted:

Wait, how is it like D&D?

Look at the character sheet. It's not that this is necessarily "like D&D"; it's that the design screams out "I have never played any RPG besides D&D, so I don't know what's inherently part of the RPG concept and what's just a D&D thing"

fez_machine
Nov 27, 2004

Hiro Protagonist posted:

Wait, how is it like D&D?

From The FAQ posted:

Let’s say you encounter a gang of armed bandits who are blocking a road, holding prisoners, and/or starting fires. In other RPGs, this situation might result in a violent confrontation. In Lotus Dimension, players are challenged to think of peaceful ways to deal with the problem.

Depending on the clues written into the scene and the skill sets of the characters on your team, tactics might include: 1) Engage in conversation. 2) Send your monk out to meditate in the road and distract the bandits while you free prisoners, put out fires, and get members of your party beyond the blockade. 3) Use a sleeping spell or a bliss-and-ecstasy spell, if you have one, to render the bandits incapable of harming anyone. 4) Use your mystic’s smoke bomb to obscure your group as you pass. 5) Spot the bandit who is disgruntled and most likely to turn against his comrades. Find a way to win him over and gain his assistance. 6) Send your parkour specialist up the cliffside to survey the scene and spot a weakness behind the blockade. 7) Roll in a barrel of beer. 8) Hack the bandits’ communication devices to lure them elsewhere. 9) Wait for the cover of darkness to sneak by. 10) Build a sculpture that captures their attention-- or that (gently, temporarily) captures the bandits themselves. 11) Disguise a member of your party as a bandit and infiltrate the group. 12) Allow yourselves to be captured and look for a solution from within. 13) Go a different way and come back later-- maybe they’ll be gone. 14) Make inventive use of an object you carry in your inventory or find in the area.15) Ask the archeologist in your group to take a closer look at the bandits to find any symbols they see as bad luck and strategize a ruse to scare them away.

If you’re a gamer accustomed to a paradigm of meeting violent situations with violent solutions, it might be challenging at first. But the more you play and get to know the skill sets of your character and the other characters around you, the more alternative, creative, and often fantastical solutions will start to occur to you.

A diversity of skill sets will help you, and creativity is paramount. That’s not to say that any nonviolent solution you can dream up will work. If your character tries to fly off a cliff without a vehicle, animal, or spell to support her, that character will die. Characters must also regularly replenish their eight life points with rest, medicine, meditation, etc. A character whose life points diminish to zero will also die.

There's nothing in here that suggests a non-D&D perspective.

It's fantasy adventuring but with nonviolent solutions. It's fallen into the classic fantasy heartbreaker trap of being different but not different enough.

Edit:
Also this:

The Creator Himself posted:

“I’ve always admired D&D because it’s rooted in storytelling, magic and adventure, and it requires creativity and collaboration,” writes creator Scott Wayne Indiana. ”But I wanted to know: What would a game structured similarly to D&D be like if players had to solve all the challenges the game threw at them using nonviolent means?”

fez_machine fucked around with this message at 08:51 on Aug 30, 2016

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
Buddism as a guiding principle of the game was done better in TBZ. Nonviolent conflict resolution was done better by Golden Skies Stories. Once again, Japan is superior :japan:

Doodmons
Jan 17, 2009
This is your daily reminder that Tenra Bansho Zero is the best roleplaying game ever written.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

Doodmons posted:

This is your daily reminder that Tenra Bansho Zero is the best roleplaying game ever written.

Actually, that's The One Ring and Technoir, but TBZ is pretty good.

Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Aug 30, 2016

Scyther
Dec 29, 2010

"Let me tell you how my game is different from ALLLLLLL the rest" says RPG author who has only ever played D&D and maybe if you're really lucky also, like GURPS or Call of Cthulhu or something.

Cat Face Joe
Feb 20, 2005

goth vegan crossfit mom who vapes



Fenarisk posted:

Believe it or not, in the car industry it absolutely is, and is one of the main reasons I spent every waking hour the past two years working to get out of it and into something where I can give back to people. It's not like I could just quit and magically my bills would be paid, so I endured some awful poo poo until I could save enough. Hell, even then the general manager was pissed when I gave my two week notice and ran a dozen or so hard credit checks on the sales side with my employee info and tanked my credit score about 100 points because he knew I was looking for school loans. I wouldn't wish that poo poo on anyone, trust me. Most people haven't experienced it and even when I apologized for being wrong on here I ended up with this lovely red text as a reminder so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dude, no its not like that at all. You just work with and for a ton of huge assholes.

CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!

Fenarisk posted:

Believe it or not, in the car industry it absolutely is, and is one of the main reasons I spent every waking hour the past two years working to get out of it and into something where I can give back to people. It's not like I could just quit and magically my bills would be paid, so I endured some awful poo poo until I could save enough. Hell, even then the general manager was pissed when I gave my two week notice and ran a dozen or so hard credit checks on the sales side with my employee info and tanked my credit score about 100 points because he knew I was looking for school loans. I wouldn't wish that poo poo on anyone, trust me. Most people haven't experienced it and even when I apologized for being wrong on here I ended up with this lovely red text as a reminder so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edit: Anyway, real content, Beneath Nexus looks like a fun dungeon crawling game without the massive room needed for something like Descent, but a little more substance than the Pathfinder card game. Only thing that's a little lacking is the card art imo.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/silverclutchgames/beneath-nexus-an-asymmetrical-dungeon-crawling-car?ref=category

Helical Nightmares posted:

Hope you left the rear end in a top hat a nice report at the Better Business Bureau, for as much good as that does.

The BBB? How the hell did you not go straight to the loving State AG's office with this poo poo? Or the Labor Dept or state equiv. This is loving fraud and is illegal as loving poo poo. How the gently caress did you not at least get this rear end in a top hat thrown in loving jail, or at least put out of business with this bullshit? I mean, I get you're all chill and poo poo, but this is the kind of perfect storm that prosecutors will chomp at the bit for.

Doodmons
Jan 17, 2009

Lemon-Lime posted:

Actually, that's The One Ring and Technoir, but TBZ is pretty good.

fite me

FRINGE
May 23, 2003
title stolen for lf posting
At first I didnt give a poo poo, but Im getting more curious about Cooks black box thing. IS anyone actually getting it? (I cant afford to do that right now, but am wondering if anyone is getting the direct updates or anything interesting?)

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

FRINGE posted:

At first I didnt give a poo poo, but Im getting more curious about Cooks black box thing. IS anyone actually getting it? (I cant afford to do that right now, but am wondering if anyone is getting the direct updates or anything interesting?)

No no pull up.

Lichtenstein
May 31, 2012

It'll make sense, eventually.
It's tabletop Godus, basically. The last person to pledge to the kickstarter is allowed get inside the box and learn Monte's secret.

He is a moon

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009

Cat Face Joe posted:

Dude, no its not like that at all. You just work with and for a ton of huge assholes.

yea, ive been in the automotive industry for a few years, and while it can get a little blue out in the shop, the kind of stuff hes describing would have people out on their asses with a quickness. also probably involve the police

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

FRINGE posted:

At first I didnt give a poo poo, but Im getting more curious about Cooks black box thing. IS anyone actually getting it? (I cant afford to do that right now, but am wondering if anyone is getting the direct updates or anything interesting?)

I'm tempted to kick a dollar since the free rules primer was unlocked for all backers. i assume that won't be out until right before release tho, so who knows if that's worth it. I'm definitely not tempted to throw down $197.00 on the full rules that won't even be provided for me for a year or $349.00 just to get the early access rules.

clockworkjoe
May 31, 2000

Rolled a 1 on the random encounter table, didn't you?
Trad Game favorite Greg Stolze just launched a new Kickstarter for a short story anthology: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gregstolze/thank-you-for-screaming?ref=friends_backed

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Alien Rope Burn
Dec 5, 2004

I wanna be a saikyo HERO!

Nuns with Guns posted:

I'm tempted to kick a dollar since the free rules primer was unlocked for all backers. i assume that won't be out until right before release tho, so who knows if that's worth it. I'm definitely not tempted to throw down $197.00 on the full rules that won't even be provided for me for a year or $349.00 just to get the early access rules.

I don't get paying extra for a half-finished copy of work ahead of time. That should be basic proof of process for backers if it's done at all and people that charge extra for it ought to be ashamed.

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