|
Nitrousoxide posted:The USA has survived for 200 years despite each individual state not having its own currency. I think you may need to consider the fact that Greece's problems are due to reasons other than a common currency. The US has automatic transfers towards states in a slump, and shared risk. The same every country in Europe had wrt their own currency and their regions, but Europe doesn't because we are idiots.
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 13:01
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 17, 2024 23:25 |
|
|
DarkCrawler posted:Expose your tits for the French Republic and freedom! Hollande/Valls 2017: Show Us Your Tits 
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 13:47
|
|
|
Apple owes 15 billion in back taxes https://www.engadget.com/2016/08/30/eu-commission-apple-tax-ireland/
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 13:59
|
|
|
Nitrousoxide posted:Apple owes 15 billion in back taxes This country is pathetic.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 14:12
|
|
|
Apple's reaction is also quite funny, they seem to think the issue is about the tax avoidance scheme in general, while the problem is Ireland giving them a deal not available to other companies. Also how taxes should be where the "value is created". US get a chunk of it for the R&D thing, but I wonder how much China gets from the enormous created value in their country. Probably not much more than Europe, which is providing customers buying billions worth of devices.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 15:10
|
|
|
Actually it fundamentally is about tax avoidance, eu commission pushed the issue in this way because it was the only form available to them.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 15:38
|
|
|
Nitrousoxide posted:Apple owes 15 billion in back taxes It's ok though, Tim Cook feels like he shouldn't have to pay. quote:Tim Cook himself has said that he feels that where you "create value is the place where you are taxed." Well I guess that lets them off the hook completely.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 15:43
|
|
|
So uhh, Tim Cook feels they should be taxed by China? EDIT: Whoops point already raised
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 15:56
|
|
|
Baxta posted:Finally I figured out the confusion. In Salzburg, there are a massive amount of beggars. In the altstadt its one or sometimes two on every corner. Legally this is fine. The weird thing is, the Austrians believe that these beggars (90% from Romania) are these Syrian/Afghan refugees which is a bit unfair to the refugees.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 16:11
|
|
|
I'm glad Tim Cook is telling the EU and Ireland to pound sand . American corporations, which are citizens in a sense, should not be allowed to be bullied abroad because some Brussels bureaucrat thinks he or she knows what is best!
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 16:27
|
|
|
fits my needs posted:I'm glad Tim Cook is telling the EU and Ireland to pound sand . American corporations, which are citizens in a sense, should not be allowed to be bullied abroad because some Brussels bureaucrat thinks he or she knows what is best!
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 16:42
|
|
|
Nothing about France effectively axing the TTIP? WTH thread!
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 16:50
|
|
|
Fados posted:Actually it fundamentally is about tax avoidance, eu commission pushed the issue in this way because it was the only form available to them. Oh of course, and Apple is also right when they say "The Commission's case is not about how much Apple pays in taxes, it's about which government collects the money". They wouldn't bother with them if the mony wasn't going back to them in the end. That just makes it even better if the ruling doesn't get overturned. Ireland is already helping to avoid paying a huge part of the EU taxes in a totally legal way. Still that wasn't enough for Apple, they had to dodge even more, and that's what's getting them nailed.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 16:56
|
|
|
ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:Nothing about France effectively axing the TTIP? Slightly makes up for their recent Burka bullshit.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 17:01
|
|
|
Dawncloack posted:The US has automatic transfers towards states in a slump, and shared risk. The EU doesn't have it because it doesn't have the political integration required and that doesn't exist because voters have consistently voted against it by huge margins and trying to force the issue has led to a massive increase in the popularity of euro sceptic parties. So it's far more complicated than 'people dumb lol'. The fact of the matter is that the fundamental structure of the EU is flawed and is finally collapsing. Why? The idea was that a currency union would lead to a political union but that idea is obviously wrong, in fact the exact opposite has occurred. Without that political union the single currency is doomed. A lot of people seem to think the EU is like the US. It is, the problem is it's like pre civil war US but even then there was a lot more unifying features than the current EU has.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 17:26
|
|
|
Beep boop the macron has been launched
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 17:50
|
|
|
What has happened to the politicians who resigned in protest against the Hollande government, are they still in the public's eye or have they disappeared into obscurity?
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 17:55
|
|
|
tsa posted:A lot of people seem to think the EU is like the US. It is, the problem is it's like pre civil war US but even then there was a lot more unifying features than the current EU has.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 17:57
|
|
|
ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:Nothing about France effectively axing the TTIP? It's been dead in the water since Hillary turned on TPP
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 18:03
|
|
|
A Buttery Pastry posted:Proof positive Austrians aren't racists. It's a special type of racism where they don't even bother get the ethnicity of the person correct though. I mean I kind of understand the annoyance (Salzburg has the most beggars i've seen in any western city) but Austrians need to chill out. They already put through a Bettelverbot for most frequented areas.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 18:38
|
|
|
Baxta posted:It's a special type of racism where they don't even bother get the ethnicity of the person correct though.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 18:50
|
|
|
Baxta posted:It's a special type of racism where they don't even bother get the ethnicity of the person correct though. Racists never let something like facts get in the way of some good old fashioned hate.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 18:50
|
|
|
ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:Nothing about France effectively axing the TTIP? Please go ahead and post about it.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 18:57
|
|
|
double nine posted:What has happened to the politicians who resigned in protest against the Hollande government, are they still in the public's eye or have they disappeared into obscurity? Well, Christiane Taubira (pbuh) often posts cool stuff on Facebook and gets a bunch of likes, does that count?
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 19:06
|
|
|
A Buttery Pastry posted:I think that's a pretty common type of racism. It's more that they can't even distinguish the pale, dark-haired Romanians from the olive skinned peoples of the Middle East. If other inner cities of Central Europe are any indication, then this subset of the Romanian population is also pretty olive skinned (i.e. Romanian is an euphemism for Roma). Btw. why is it "olive skinned", is there a light-brown variety besides the green and black ones?
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 20:01
|
|
|
Olive skin is a pretty typical description of eastern Mediterranean people's skin.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 20:03
|
|
|
Flowers For Algeria posted:Well, Christiane Taubira (pbuh) often posts cool stuff on Facebook and gets a bunch of likes, does that count? Montbourg has announced he is running for president
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 20:30
|
|
|
Nitrousoxide posted:Olive skin is a pretty typical description of eastern Mediterranean people's skin. Yes but the question is why is it called olive when olives are black or green, and the trees grayish, neither which is a that light shade of brown, is it the color of the wood or some dumb stereotyping like "dem olive eaters around the Mediterranean"?
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 20:53
|
|
|
julian assflange posted:Montbourg has announced he is running for president i wanted to vote for him back in 2011
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 20:54
|
|
|
Baxta posted:Over here in Austria, theres a big push back against "refugees" but most of the ones who came over have been housed and are no longer in the big tents in town or the train station etc. My mother lives near a refugee camp in Vienna. There is hardly a time the police isn't going there full speed.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 20:56
|
|
|
Zudgemud posted:Yes but the question is why is it called olive when olives are black or green, and the trees grayish, neither which is a that light shade of brown, is it the color of the wood or some dumb stereotyping like "dem olive eaters around the Mediterranean"?
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 21:21
|
|
|
A Buttery Pastry posted:Ireland is on the side of Apple. Brussels won't get a cent.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 21:36
|
|
|
Nonsense posted:Brussels won't get a cent. They are not necessarily after that money, they are after future money and "even competition" between all members of the union. Which on some levels are great and some levels really dumb due to the fact that the EU is not a state where efficient cross country fiscal transfers can occur.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 21:51
|
|
|
Nyandaber Z posted:Still that wasn't enough for Apple, they had to dodge even more, and that's what's getting them nailed. In this case, the Commission recognises that Corporate Tax is the exclusive remit of the member states, but judged that Ireland's interpretation of Irish tax law was incorrect, therefore Apple must pay due taxes. If they really wanted state aid to stop, they'd ask Ireland to foot 13 B€. Things would change a lot, lot faster and countries would be a lot more careful with anything that might be misconstrued as state aid.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 21:51
|
|
|
A Buttery Pastry posted:I quick googling makes the case that a lot women with olive skin actually do struggle with green undertones in their skin, as it clashes with the usual makeup advice for tan people. The green undertone might be a relative thing in this case, more a lack of reddish undertones than green per se, but I think it justifies the "olive" name. Especially seeing as the green in some olives is more of an undertone to yellow-greyish brown than distinctly green. And hell, it's not like white skin is actually white. Also, I can somewhat buy that as any pale person with a hint of yellow in their skin tone gets pretty green veins instead of the more blue tinted ones in the pinkskinned.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 21:57
|
|
|
If the Euro were split into a low currency and higu currency would it help or hinder the current issue of daisy-chain catastrophe Followup. Would a universal basic income be more viable in a 2 currency EU? I.E higer currency countries being taxed, that money converted into lower currency, then dispersed amongst the people. WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Aug 30, 2016 |
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 23:46
|
|
|
How would that do anything?
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 23:48
|
|
|
Nitrousoxide posted:How would that do anything? Creare a buffer betwewn countries like France ans Britain and Germany (rich country examples. Britain is gone got it). And Greece, and EE, aswell as new members. Depending on economic size. If this low currency fails it doesnt bring down the whole of europe in one swoop. It allows much easier bailout or debt adjustments. WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Aug 30, 2016 |
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 23:50
|
|
|
Shazback posted:TBF I find it amusing that it's the company that's fined, not the country, when there are cases of state aid. The company isn't getting fined. Ireland is required to take back the state aid it gives and thereby remove the market alteration they have committed. Apple is not getting punished, they're merely put in the situation they'd be in if Ireland had applied the law correctly. If Apple were to get punished, they'd have to pay those 13 B€ backtaxes (incl. interest) and then something extra.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 23:56
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 17, 2024 23:25 |
|
|
I mean who's gonna invest in a country using the "lovely" euro?
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2016 23:57
|
|