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SuperMechagodzilla: Jun 9, 2007; NEWT REBORN

Halloween Jack posted:

Somebody with Photoshop skills please Snyderize all the cars in The Avengers.

Quick & dirty:

_Original:

# ? Aug 31, 2016 18:42

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# ? May 16, 2024 10:45

Megaman's Jockstrap: Jul 16, 2000; What a horrible thread to have a post.

That's actually pretty good for such a quick job.

# ? Aug 31, 2016 18:47

Jimbot: Jul 22, 2008

You can't Snyderize bad shots. Zack Snyder rarely does those. It still amazes me that the cinematographer's next film was Godzilla. What the gently caress did Whedon even have that guy do?

# ? Aug 31, 2016 18:50

Vintersorg: Mar 3, 2004; President of
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It already looks so much better.

Jesus :lol:

e: noticed you actually smaller too

# ? Aug 31, 2016 18:56

RBA Starblade: Apr 28, 2008; Going Home.

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Jimbot posted:

You can't Snyderize bad shots.

Just desaturate it.

# ? Aug 31, 2016 18:59

Equeen: Oct 29, 2011; Pole dance~

Jimbot posted:

You can't Snyderize bad shots. Zack Snyder rarely does those. It still amazes me that the cinematographer's next film was Godzilla. What the gently caress did Whedon even have that guy do?

I'm just gonna shamelessly plug Hbomberguy here since he shares your confusion. It's also a good video on action scenes in movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch-5ydxW_WE

# ? Aug 31, 2016 19:03

Jenny Angel: Oct 24, 2010; Out of Control
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Vintersorg posted:

e: noticed you actually smaller too

Yeah the "just widen the aspect ratio" fix that he figured out a few months ago is really surprisingly consistent

It cannot be overstated how much SMG is legit the world's #1 The Avengers fan

# ? Aug 31, 2016 19:06

Equeen: Oct 29, 2011; Pole dance~

Jenny Angel posted:

Yeah the "just widen the aspect ratio" fix that he figured out a few months ago is really surprisingly consistent

It cannot be overstated how much SMG is legit the world's #1 The Avengers fan

He criticizes because he cares.

# ? Aug 31, 2016 19:10

Electromax: May 6, 2007

I wish the other Marvel/Fox/Sony movies got equal attention that Whedon and Snyder get. Sometimes it feels like the comic threads only want to talk about Avengers 1+2 and Mos/BvS no matter how much they've already been dissected. I want some new screenshots!

# ? Aug 31, 2016 19:14

Jimbot: Jul 22, 2008

Equeen posted:

I'm just gonna shamelessly plug Hbomberguy here since he shares your confusion. It's also a good video on action scenes in movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch-5ydxW_WE

Yep, I saw that one and it's really good. He's one of the few people who defends Snyder's movies, at least Man of Steel and Batman v Superman, in the critics thread (who are convinced everyone in this forum have their heads up their butts for reading into films). He's also responsible for all the poo poo videos of the people he makes fun of appearing on my youtube recommendations too. Thanks guy! :argh:

# ? Aug 31, 2016 19:16

SuperMechagodzilla: Jun 9, 2007; NEWT REBORN

RBA Starblade posted:

Just desaturate it.

Fun Avengers Fact: I used almost no desaturation in that image. The differences are mostly due to higher contrast and a greenish-yellow tint. (I tested other color schemes, like gold and blue, before settling on that one.)

Instead of "what if Man Of Steel were in colour?", fans should ask "What if Man Of Steel had less contrast, and also more grey."

# ? Aug 31, 2016 19:33

RBA Starblade: Apr 28, 2008; Going Home.

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SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Fun Avengers Fact: I used almost no desaturation in that image. The differences are mostly due to higher contrast and a greenish-yellow tint. (I tested other color schemes, like gold and blue, before settling on that one.)

Instead of "what if Man Of Steel were in colour?", fans should ask "What if Man Of Steel had less contrast, and also more grey."

I learned something today! I guess that's why the sky seems like it's glowing a bit on the edges. How'd it look in the other schemes, if you saved any of it?

# ? Aug 31, 2016 19:38

Jenny Angel: Oct 24, 2010; Out of Control
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Instead of "what if Man Of Steel were in colour?", fans should ask "What if Man Of Steel had less contrast, and also more grey."

I can't upload images at work, but I just cropped them to the same dimensions and put both of them in grayscale. It's incredible how the Snyderized version does a decent job of looking like it was shot in black and white, with high-contrast pools of color that catch the eye, while the original has just this dreary layer of middle gray over everything. I remember when the trailer for Whedon's Much Ado About Nothing came out and goons had a lot of fun mocking the ineptness of the black and white conversion. The same principles apply here - Whedon just doesn't seem like he has an eye for contrasts

# ? Aug 31, 2016 19:48

Jenny Angel: Oct 24, 2010; Out of Control
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Think I figured out a quick workaround. Are these showing up?

Original

Snyderized

Jenny Angel fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Aug 31, 2016

# ? Aug 31, 2016 19:52

Hat Thoughts: Jul 27, 2012

Jenny Angel posted:

Think I figured out a quick workaround. Are these showing up?

Original

Snyderized

no...broken links

# ? Aug 31, 2016 19:56

MacheteZombie: Feb 4, 2007

poo poo my fix didn't work. sorry Jenny

# ? Aug 31, 2016 19:57

Jenny Angel: Oct 24, 2010; Out of Control
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Hat Thoughts posted:

no...broken links

drat, sorry guys. I'll upload them properly and quote that post when I get home

EDIT: Alternatively someone else could just quickly grayscale the pictures in any Microsoft Office program and put me out of my misery

Jenny Angel fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Aug 31, 2016

# ? Aug 31, 2016 20:01

MacheteZombie: Feb 4, 2007

Jenny Angel posted:

drat, sorry guys. I'll upload them properly and quote that post when I get home

I tried going to the links directly, but it was like the tweets were deleted. Just some info in case it helps.

# ? Aug 31, 2016 20:03

Jenny Angel: Oct 24, 2010; Out of Control
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MacheteZombie posted:

I tried going to the links directly, but it was like the tweets were deleted. Just some info in case it helps.

How about now

# ? Aug 31, 2016 20:06

MacheteZombie: Feb 4, 2007

they are a go!

# ? Aug 31, 2016 20:19

Megaman's Jockstrap: Jul 16, 2000; What a horrible thread to have a post.

That's good stuff.

# ? Aug 31, 2016 20:26

teagone: Jun 10, 2003; That was pretty intense, huh?

Messed around in premiere real quick

Original:
https://fat.gfycat.com/DelayedLividDegus.webm

Snyderized:
https://zippy.gfycat.com/AjarHighlevelCollie.webm

The film grain I added pretty much gets lost in the Snyder version due to webm compression. You can see the grain a lot better in the full HD version here: https://vimeo.com/180959119

[edit] Now embedded!

teagone fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Aug 31, 2016

# ? Aug 31, 2016 23:01

well why not: Feb 10, 2009

you can fix the aspect ratio and colour grade (not that it's our job to do) but nothing will fix how awkward it looks when characters cgi/wire jump everywhere.

# ? Aug 31, 2016 23:12

teagone: Jun 10, 2003; That was pretty intense, huh?

well why not posted:

you can fix the aspect ratio and colour grade (not that it's our job to do) but nothing will fix how awkward it looks when characters cgi/wire jump everywhere.

Lets put this to the test. Do you have a specific scene from The Avengers in mind that has the awkward CGI? I saved a "Snyderized" preset I can apply to any sequence.

Also, here's a still comparison from the scene I edited:

vvv Yeah, I think I may have gone a bit to deep towards the yellows. Haha.

# ? Aug 31, 2016 23:24

MacheteZombie: Feb 4, 2007

teagone posted:

[edit] Now embedded!

Showed these to my wife and she thought the second one was the better of the two* except for the skin tones looking like bad cases of jaundice.

*she liked two because the colors stand out a bit more in her opinion.

e: Not that my wife is an expert or anything, just thought it was interesting to get a perspective from someone not invested in "Marvel v DC".

MacheteZombie fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Aug 31, 2016

# ? Aug 31, 2016 23:24

teagone: Jun 10, 2003; That was pretty intense, huh?

MacheteZombie posted:

Showed these to my wife and she thought the second one was the better of the two* except for the skin tones looking like bad cases of jaundice.

*she liked two because the colors stand out a bit more in her opinion.

e: Not that my wife is an expert or anything, just thought it was interesting to get a perspective from someone not invested in "Marvel v DC".

Same color profile, just desaturated slightly to be less yellowish:

# ? Aug 31, 2016 23:56

Jenny Angel: Oct 24, 2010; Out of Control
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The tint levels in the last one give it a bit of an old timey war propaganda feel, which is great for any shot with Cap as the focal point

# ? Sep 1, 2016 00:02

Robot Style: Jul 5, 2009

But we already know what a Zack Snyder version of a superhero movie featuring an afternoon alien invasion of a major city focused on the use of a giant blue laser beam, with a dude in blue running around looks like?

Robot Style fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Sep 1, 2016

# ? Sep 1, 2016 00:22

teagone: Jun 10, 2003; That was pretty intense, huh?

Robot Style posted:

But we already know what a Zack Snyder version of a superhero movie featuring an afternoon alien invasion of a major city focused on the use of a giant blue laser beam, with a dude in blue running around looks like?

Yes, but would Marvel's� The Avengers� look aesthetically better in Snydervision?

# ? Sep 1, 2016 00:48

Robot Style: Jul 5, 2009

Mostly I just posted those as similar-to reference for Snydering up those Avengers shots, but I don't think you can vastly improve them with color correction and reframing any more than you can improve the script by changing the font.

# ? Sep 1, 2016 01:10

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD: Sep 14, 2007; everything is yours

Robot Style posted:

Mostly I just posted those as similar-to reference for Snydering up those Avengers shots, but I don't think you can vastly improve them with color correction and reframing any more than you can improve the script by changing the font.

What if it was Jokerman font?

# ? Sep 1, 2016 01:20

Robot Style: Jul 5, 2009

Then we'll talk.

# ? Sep 1, 2016 01:26

Dark_Tzitzimine: Oct 9, 2012; by R. Guyovich

Long rear end list of "rumors" about the future of the DCEU found on Reddit.

quote:

Cyborg is out, folks. Expect a full Titans flick with Deathstroke as the main antagonist. Nightwing is in it, though, if that�s any consolation. Cyborg will be in the Flash movie. Barry and Vic knew each other in school.
Deathstroke was offered to a bunch of actors but it ultimately went to Joe Manganiello.

Sequel to Man of Steel will be released in 2020 (the name Superman will not be in the title). Villain is Braniac. They�re trying to court several directors including J.J. Abrams and Duncan Jones. Other characters being considered include Supergirl and Superboy. Lex Luthor will be a key character in Braniac�s new origin. I believe the origin they have planned at the moment is Lex uses Kryptonian and alien tech to enhance LexOS and it becomes Braniac. From what I�ve seen though, they DEFINITELY want Braniac in a physical comic book-y form, not as some AI controlling drones or machines or something.

Edgar Wright is also being courted for a DCEU project.

They�re trying not to make Justice League feel overcrowded but it�s very clear that there is a lot they�re working with already. Looking to be a long movie. They know they can�t cut out a ton of stuff and repeat past mistakes.

Justice League�s villain is Steppenwolf as you all know. The League fights Parademons for a good chunk of the film. Lex is let out of prison and gets the public to love him. He tries to manipulate the public into hating heroes like Batman and Superman but it doesn�t work. Lex helps Steppenwolf come to Earth in exchange for technology and knowledge. Lex is very manipulative and much calmer than he was in BvS. He�s also much scarier in my opinion. There�s a funny scene after the League is assembled where Joker and Harley are committing a crime and they expect Batman to show up�when the whole League arrives. It�s really funny and Joker and Harley just stand there, not knowing what to do now. Kind of like a �Well�poo poo� moment. Later, the League get their asses kicked by Steppenwolf but then Superman returns and weakens him. The full Justice League then works together to defeat Steppenwolf in an awesome climactic fight reminiscent of the big fight scene in The Avengers. Superman has a beard, long hair, tattered/scorched-looking black suit, and is thin at first (not as thin as Flashpoint Superman but still thin). During the fight with Steppenwolf, you see his full strength return with each swing and with each second he�s in the sunlight. Green Lantern shows up at the very very end of the film (may even be moved to mid/post-credit scene). There�s a full Darkseid tease at the end buuuuut�

Justice League 2 may or may not use Darkseid as the villain. The biggest concern is comparisons to Thanos. They may hold off and use him further down the line once the dust has settled following Infinity War. Other villains being considered are the Injustice League, the Crime Syndicate and The Society. They really want multiple villains for the sequel for some reason. Tower of Babel is also being discussed as a possible plot.

Justice League 2 will be pushed back to the end of 2019 to make room for Justice League Dark (which will have a different title to not confuse moviegoers).

Aquaman will release August 2018. The villain is Black Manta, though as far as I know he has not been cast yet. The concept sketches do show the full suit which made me very excited. They want Black Manta to be a Darth Vader-esque character, in that his voice and presence is intimidating and terrifying even when he�s not fighting. Aqualad is in it and serves his father for a good chunk of the film. He eventually switches sides and helps Aquaman. There�s a cool fight scene planned where Aquaman and Aqualad fight Black Manta�s army before Aquaman goes off to fight Black Manta at the end.

Flash�s release date is March 2018. Villains are the Rogues, led by a really�creepy Captain Cold. The film is going to be really fun but Captain Cold is�strange. Creepy is really the best way I can describe it. I�m not entirely sold on the concept so hopefully it�ll work better on the big screen. He wears a sleek mechanical suit that has the same color scheme and pattern as his comic book incarnation. They noticed how fan�s loved the Speedforce scenes in the show and hope to put their own spin on something similar.

The Batman film (right now called The Batman though they�re considering other titles) will release October 5 2018. Current plot has Black Mask as the main villain breaking other villains out of Arkham to kill Batman. Joker and Harley have a subplot involving a bomb to blow up all the inmates once Batman recaptures them all that results in Harley leaving the Joker because of the abuse and Batman trying to rehabilitate her. Deathstroke is sent in by Waller to help contain the situation so she can use them for her own means but Batman fights Deathstroke and promises Waller that he�s coming for her next. Deadshot is also in it but leaves the Asylum to be with his daughter instead of getting his revenge on Batman. There�s a really cool scene where Black Mask lines all the villains up and asks who will join him to get revenge (this scene will focus a lot on Deadshot�s reactions, making it clear he wants only freedom). Many of the villains get away in the end, with Batman promising to hunt them all down. The film will end with Batman overlooking Gotham and seeing one of the B-List villains (has yet to be decided) committing a crime.

Luke Evans was approached to play Sinestro in Green Lantern Corp. Not sure if he agreed. The film will be lighthearted and fun. They�re modeling the tone after old cheesy scifi serials. As of right now, the villain will be Sinestro with a tease of Atrocitus towards the end (subject to change however). They want to explore the various Lantern Corps with this film and the sequels.

They want to do something fresh and new to revamp Black Adam in Shazam. From what I�ve heard, Dwayne Johnson has been in constant communication about what they could do to make this film better. Billy is also a huge Justice League fan and he meets them at the end of the film as Shazam.

Misha Collins, Channing Tatum, Milo Ventimiglia, Steven Yeun, and Jake Gyllenhaal have been approached for various roles.

Rob Lowe was approached to play one of the villains in the Flash film. They apparently really want him to play a villain.

Emily Blunt, Rosamund Pike, Alexandria Daddario, and Jessica Chastain have also been approached.

Expect full trailers for both Wonder Woman and Justice League emphasizing the �fun� of these movies. The Wonder Woman trailer shows the villain a little. Also expect a bunch of announcements regarding casting, release dates being moved, a few new films being added to the slate, plans for DCEU shows and DCEU animated movies (no shows or movies will be announced, just that they will make stuff that tie in), and more.

Going off that last bit, they�re planning on bringing the DCEU shows to HBO exclusively. Ideas being tossed around include Birds of Prey, Nightwing, The Question (heavily being considered as being the first, last I heard), The Phantom Stranger, Zatanna, and Doctor Fate.

The animated films will show what some of the characters are up to during the events of the other films.

Suicide Squad 2 will happen though after 2020, likely to be 2021. Will have a slightly altered roster. It also will not be directed by David Ayer.

The DCEU has been mapped out to about 2025.

The Booster Gold/Blue Beetle movie is up in the air right now. They�re leaning on the edge of approving it after the success of Deadpool but may use it as an HBO show.

# ? Sep 1, 2016 05:23

teagone: Jun 10, 2003; That was pretty intense, huh?

A live action Justice League vs Crime Syndicate movie would be pretty dope imo.

# ? Sep 1, 2016 06:27

SuperMechagodzilla: Jun 9, 2007; NEWT REBORN

Robot Style posted:

Mostly I just posted those as similar-to reference for Snydering up those Avengers shots, but I don't think you can vastly improve them with color correction and reframing any more than you can improve the script by changing the font.

As an experiment, I tried 'Whedonizing' shots from BVS - but I had to give up. You can't quite make something shot on film look like raw HD digital footage.

Here's my best attempt:

_Original:

...and it still looks fairly decent (if a bit like After Last Season).

# ? Sep 1, 2016 07:06

FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

JL vs a-hole JL would be pretty meh. It's good in a comic book setting but "Like your heroes just not!" Isn't all too engaging in a big actiony movie.

JL:Babel is a terrible choice as well. It would walk back all the Good Batman "healing" at the end of BvS.

So Lex creates ~~Ultron~~ BrainiAI by loving with Kryptonian tech he shouldn't play with? Why not have him try to recreate the Cyborg accident and have him use a broken Motherbox?

I'm left wondering about AquaMomoa... Is the whole thing underwater? Interesting setting challenges there.

5 years for a SS sequel? Oh boy.

Some of this sounds pretty hopeful though so who knows.

# ? Sep 1, 2016 07:19

CelticPredator: Oct 11, 2013; 🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

I tried to Snyder a shot. Ya'll forgot the lens flares.

# ? Sep 1, 2016 07:52

Yoshifan823: Feb 19, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

Long rear end list of "rumors" about the future of the DCEU found on Reddit.

This is all fan-fiction and listing cool ideas that don't sound impossible. I'm sure they've been talking to everyone that isn't tied to Marvel/Star Wars at the moment, but other than that, this is pretty obviously fake and going off popular rumors (Rogues in the Flash movie, Deathstroke in the Batman movie, etc).

# ? Sep 1, 2016 08:17

Shanty: Nov 7, 2005; I Love Dogs

CelticPredator posted:

I tried to Snyder a shot. Ya'll forgot the lens flares.

Isn't lens flares more a stereotypical Abrams thing? Although I'm impressed that you somehow managed to make Hawkeye look more CGI than The Hulk.

# ? Sep 1, 2016 08:21

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RBA Starblade: Apr 28, 2008; Going Home.

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Shanty posted:

Isn't lens flares more a stereotypical Abrams thing? Although I'm impressed that you somehow managed to make Hawkeye look more CGI than The Hulk.

For some reason it makes Hawkeye look like a very tiny man.

# ? Sep 1, 2016 13:45

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