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iospace
Jan 19, 2038


https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/771547705705324544

Maybe now they can shut up about SOME THINGS.

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Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



They don't yet know that their seats are on the wing

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Nessus posted:

If Trump does one good thing, I hope he at least puts some damage on the reflexive association between "Republican" and "good" that a lot of the rubes seem to have.

A few pages back, but that will never happen. When he falls, all blame will be placed on him, Crooked Hillary, voting fraud, minorities, Obama, RINOs and just about everything else besides Republicans. The fact that he spewed the same gibberish that they demanded for decades will be completely ignored since rubes have been well trained to see that as an absolute good that can only be failed.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



I don't like it though. The press has proven many times that they have no intention of being fair or not holding Clinton to ridiculous double standards.

I'd rather she just keep blowing them off instead of inviting a bunch of people paid by Zucker and Murdoch to dig through her trash cans for anything they can find

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe

iospace posted:

https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/771547705705324544

Maybe now they can shut up about SOME THINGS.

Yeah, but you know they'll just keep on whining about the press conference thing.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Trabisnikof posted:

At best the NY Post published revenge porn that includes in it a child, at worst the paper, editor and reporter should all be bankrupted

Hey there's precedent. Plus just like gawker nothing of value would be lost.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Don't hold your breath on the press stopping whining about anything, ever, but especially not something a Clinton is doing.

After her last presser they were back to whining about pressers within like 30 seconds

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Epic High Five posted:

I don't like it though. The press has proven many times that they have no intention of being fair or not holding Clinton to ridiculous double standards.

I'd rather she just keep blowing them off instead of inviting a bunch of people paid by Zucker and Murdoch to dig through her trash cans for anything they can find

In fairness, they're kind of doing that anyway.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Night10194 posted:

In fairness, they're kind of doing that anyway.

True, but her dragging her feet on an FOIA request by JW that ended up being a long fight just for some emails about ordering coffee is a funny way to spit in their eyes

I'm not sure I can handle false equivalency stories about how Clinton not offering their preferred dressing is as bad as Trump planning on stripping the first amendment

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

As I've said before: The one consolation I will take, if the press somehow hands this to Trump (I know that is supremely unlikely) will be watching them be shocked, SHOCKED on their way to the camps.

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

Josef bugman posted:

So this "prairie home companion" is it a bit like the American version of The Archers?

The archers is a 15 minute radio show on radio 4 every day that details the fairly usual lives of people in a farming community/ small market town in England. It is exactly as dull as it sounds.
No that's radio farming drama/soap opera. PHC is supposed to be a chuckly tent show.

TVarmy
Sep 11, 2011

like food and water, my posting has no intrinsic value

N00ba the Hutt posted:

If you think this thread is bad now, just imagine what we'll be like next year at this time! :v:

Fun bit from Robert Costa et al. at WaPo about the backstory behind Trump changing nothing on immigration.
My major takeaway is that the Trump showrunners are very much high on their own supply, and apparently think the two speeches yesterday "won him the election." I always find it fascinating when it's not just the PR flaks who get run out to proclaim the party line, but the entire apparatus that's existing apart from objective reality. I'm looking forward to the confusion of their team on election night.

quote:

“He hasn’t changed his position on immigration,” Trump surrogate Katrina Pierson said on CNN last week in remarks that were widely mocked at the time but in hindsight seemed to capture internal thinking. “He’s changed the words that he is saying.”

Amazing. They think just calling mass deportation humane will win people over.

I was honestly expecting him to keep saying he's listening to everyone's opinion and evolving on immigration until November. Or even say he's keeping his final immigration policy a secret so that the cartels don't plan ahead. That way, he'd still get to talk about building the wall and how terrible immigrants are, but also say he'll make nonspecific allowances for "the good ones."

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Crossposting from Trump Thread:

Remember when Hillary claimed you could bait Trump with a tweet?



https://twitter.com/JesseFFerguson/status/771550336452468736

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

iospace posted:

Crossposting from Trump Thread:

Remember when Hillary claimed you could bait Trump with a tweet?



https://twitter.com/JesseFFerguson/status/771550336452468736

His idiocy is the single most comforting thing about this election. Knowing he legitimately can't control himself just means it's always a matter of time before he throws the latest pivot away each time.

Dr.Zeppelin
Dec 5, 2003

Night10194 posted:

As I've said before: The one consolation I will take, if the press somehow hands this to Trump (I know that is supremely unlikely) will be watching them be shocked, SHOCKED on their way to the camps.

"Well, Democrats could have stopped it if Schumer had shown some leadership and gone to lunch with the president so it would be unfair to lay the blame at the feet of this administration or his party" - them, probably

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx
The pumpkin who cried pivot.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!

Night10194 posted:

His idiocy is the single most comforting thing about this election. Knowing he legitimately can't control himself just means it's always a matter of time before he throws the latest pivot away each time.

It's why the debates are going to be amazing if he doesn't actually back out of them entirely.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


I am so very happy that #TacoTrucksOnEveryCorner is trending

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
I swear after the election is over I am going to take a long extended break from politics.

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

Geostomp posted:

A few pages back, but that will never happen. When he falls, all blame will be placed on him, Crooked Hillary, voting fraud, minorities, Obama, RINOs and just about everything else besides Republicans. The fact that he spewed the same gibberish that they demanded for decades will be completely ignored since rubes have been well trained to see that as an absolute good that can only be failed.

This problem won't go away for the GOP after the election. The damage is done, it's just a matter of how long it will take the Titanic to sink. The base isn't going to go away.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug

Epic High Five posted:

True, but her dragging her feet on an FOIA request by JW that ended up being a long fight just for some emails about ordering coffee is a funny way to spit in their eyes

I'm not sure I can handle false equivalency stories about how Clinton not offering their preferred dressing is as bad as Trump planning on stripping the first amendment

It is good for your next president to be in the habit of answering directly to the press, no matter how lovely the press is

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Epic High Five posted:

Don't hold your breath on the press stopping whining about anything, ever, but especially not something a Clinton is doing.

After her last presser they were back to whining about pressers within like 30 seconds

They've been going about how press conferences with Latino press don't count.

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

But they say nothing about Trump giving 99% of his interviews to right wing media.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008

awesmoe posted:

It is good for your next president to be in the habit of answering directly to the press, no matter how lovely the press is

She's has been though, all of the crying is over how they're not technically formal press conferences.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Magres posted:

Eat poo poo, car talk hater

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

awesmoe posted:

It is good for your next president to be in the habit of answering directly to the press, no matter how lovely the press is

And the press punishing her every single time she does isn't helping.

We only know about the Clinton Foundation donors because of extra transparency not required by law. So how does that get used?

Well, the AP used it to imply Elie Wiesel got a corrupt meeting with Clinton while she was Secretary of State.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

TVarmy posted:

Amazing. They think just calling mass deportation humane will win people over.

I was honestly expecting him to keep saying he's listening to everyone's opinion and evolving on immigration until November. Or even say he's keeping his final immigration policy a secret so that the cartels don't plan ahead. That way, he'd still get to talk about building the wall and how terrible immigrants are, but also say he'll make nonspecific allowances for "the good ones."

Like with every one of their positions on minorities, think it'll win them over the squeamish white republicans who couldn't quite justify voting Trump to themselves and were looking for an excuse. The problem is that demographic is probably so small as to be completely irrelevant since everyone who would vote for him already is committed and it alienates absolutely everyone else, including their base of angry bigots who get turned off by anything other than frothing at the mouth racism.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Night10194 posted:

Wait, they think the crazy hitler speech is an election winner? Why the hell did they do the last two weeks before it, then?

Surprising that a bunch of racist neo-nazis in denial are big fans of a crazy Hitler speech. I do feel bad for Ivanka though. She seems to be a decent enough person who tried valiantly to get her dad to be reasonable and at every turn she was stymied by the fact that he's a giant, orange, racist, baby. She even tried a Russian take over, and daddy just ignored the dictator whisperer in favor of his racist buddies who make him feel good.

The Trump campaign is only going to accelerate down the path of insanity now. The last voices of moderation are quitting and being driven out. All that's left are insane people who are true believers in the silent majority and the power of hate. And those racist idiots are going to be so loving happy and adoring of Jersey Shore Mussolini that his narcissism won't let him do anything but follow them down this path.

Epic High Five posted:

I don't like it though. The press has proven many times that they have no intention of being fair or not holding Clinton to ridiculous double standards.

I'd rather she just keep blowing them off instead of inviting a bunch of people paid by Zucker and Murdoch to dig through her trash cans for anything they can find

Hillary is still not going to answer a single question or even converse with any member of the press. Instead she will spend 5 minutes of each day making them all sit on the floor of the plane while she reads to them from Abuela's Big Book Of Trump Oppo.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

sean10mm posted:

Guillotine.

Someone post the Henry Crimes gif again

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

awesmoe posted:

It is good for your next president to be in the habit of answering directly to the press, no matter how lovely the press is

Or, hear me out, the press can perform actual journalism instead of making up just-so stories based on answers to loaded questions being taken out of context.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Gyges posted:

Surprising that a bunch of racist neo-nazis in denial are big fans of a crazy Hitler speech. I do feel bad for Ivanka though. She seems to be a decent enough person who tried valiantly to get her dad to be reasonable and at every turn she was stymied by the fact that he's a giant, orange, racist, baby. She even tried a Russian take over, and daddy just ignored the dictator whisperer in favor of his racist buddies who make him feel good.

The Trump campaign is only going to accelerate down the path of insanity now. The last voices of moderation are quitting and being driven out. All that's left are insane people who are true believers in the silent majority and the power of hate. And those racist idiots are going to be so loving happy and adoring of Jersey Shore Mussolini that his narcissism won't let him do anything but follow them down this path.


Hillary is still not going to answer a single question or even converse with any member of the press. Instead she will spend 5 minutes of each day making them all sit on the floor of the plane while she reads to them from Abuela's Big Book Of Trump Oppo.

What worries me is that Trump surrounding himself with equally racist yes-men is going to get him really believing in his "rigged election" stories and order the remaining true believers following him into full on terrorism after his failure. The Neo-Nazis aren't going to take their one last real shot burning out lightly and he's not likely to do anything to discourage them. We are likely looking at a good number of hate crimes at minimum beginning in November.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

fishmech posted:

Yeah it would just get a bit smaller. Like the only sort of media that's really gone away is stuff like say, newsreels and domestic shortwave radio, which only existed because of a very limited-scope confluence of technological and logistic factors.

But even there like, newsreels were still produced for mass distribution in America up to 1967, well past the point that "everyone" could watch TV news.
I wish they'd bring newsreels back, it'd be a hell of lot better to watch than those loving quizzes or commercials before the trailers.

On Terra Firma
Feb 12, 2008

Trabisnikof posted:

And the press punishing her every single time she does isn't helping.

We only know about the Clinton Foundation donors because of extra transparency not required by law. So how does that get used?

Well, the AP used it to imply Elie Wiesel got a corrupt meeting with Clinton while she was Secretary of State.

This doesn't matter. Them whining about not getting enough access is kind of silly, but bitching about what they do or don't do with it is dumb. It's part of the system and anyone complaining about it sounds like a baby.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

On Terra Firma posted:

This doesn't matter. Them whining about not getting enough access is kind of silly, but bitching about what they do or don't do with it is dumb. It's part of the system and anyone complaining about it sounds like a baby.

Its not a complaint. It's a comment that if the press wants even more info maybe they shouldn't act so poorly with what they have.

On Terra Firma
Feb 12, 2008

Trabisnikof posted:

Its not a complaint. It's a comment that if the press wants even more info maybe they shouldn't act so poorly with what they have.

I'm just saying even that sounds like "well if they want a good story they should write the story we want"

Spatula City
Oct 21, 2010

LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING

iospace posted:

https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/771547705705324544

Maybe now they can shut up about SOME THINGS.

probably a good call for Clinton. There's a decent chance that if she's nice to the media for a while they'll actually give her positive attention. They're giant babies that way.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

On Terra Firma posted:

I'm just saying even that sounds like "well if they want a good story they should write the story we want"

Would be a better argument if we hadn't literally just gotten "man uses his pension money to do stuff, people shocked!"

On Terra Firma
Feb 12, 2008

computer parts posted:

Would be a better argument if we hadn't literally just gotten "man uses his pension money to do stuff, people shocked!"

I completely agree. They are covering some really stupid poo poo for the sake of "but both sides are equal!!" but that's kind of the point. They have always done that and always will.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


I think what gets me the most about Hillary's strategy is that she realized how to use people's distrust in politicians for her own advantage. Just fly under the radar, and let the media eat Trump alive. This is a HORSE RACE after all right?
And when she gets on the debate stage, well poo poo that's like 20 years of pent-up Republican hatred unleashed on a man who cries when people look at him funny. Like every loving thing Republicans did basically molded her into the perfect candidate to take them down. And they used up all their ammunition. Now the best they can do is CLINTON FOUNDATION and HER HEALTH. Clinton barely started on taking down Trump and his campaign.
This entire election is like the culmination of Hillary's origin story which is like the beginning of the Pokemon movie.

Paul Ryan: We were trying to create the perfect politician. We had our successes with the Bush and the Reagan. There were some...missteps...

*smash cut to Mission_Accomplished.jpeg*

PR: But we kept going regardless. Our opponents were our punching bags. Sex scandal, e-mail scandal, accusations of corruptions, all valid tactics. All to find the perfect stratagem for the ideal.

Trump: TRUMP!

PR: He is unrefined, but he will achieve greatness...

PR: Yet...little did we know...that through our testing, we forged something new. Something we could not strike down. Something we never seen before...

*giant pantsuit cocoon smashes through ceiling*

*cocoon explodes to reveal Hillary*

Trump: TRUMP? TRUMP!

*MAGA hat followers charge Hillary*

Hillary Clinton: Let me tell you...about cookies...

*Holds up her hand*

*curls it into a fist*

*MAGA followers' chests explode*

Follower #3245: Thanks...Obama...

*Hillary starts walking toward Ryan*

Mike Pence: Now hold on one moment! American people, do not forget about the negligence which led to Beng-*stops as Hillary knees him in the balls*

Trump: TRUUUUUMP! *attempts to punch Hillary*

*Hillary gives him a withering look*

*Trump crumples to the floor, tries to cover his face but can't due to tiny loving hands*

PR: *collapses against a wall* We tried to create the perfect politician...

*Hillary stands in front of him*

*Raises both hands*

PR: ...and we succeeded.

*Building explodes into sky-piercing pillar of light*

---

*MAGA hat falls to the ground in front of rubble*

*hat crushed underfoot by pantsuited leg*


Yeah. Suck on that, Denesh D'souza.

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D O R K Y
Sep 1, 2001

iospace posted:

https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/771547705705324544

Maybe now they can shut up about SOME THINGS.

I'm not terribly familiar with this. Is it common that a presidential candidate will have essentially journalism groupies along for the campaign ride?

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