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Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce | 44 | 21.36% | |
ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress | 19 | 9.22% | |
Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin | 9 | 4.37% | |
Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country | 14 | 6.80% | |
ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit | 8 | 3.88% | |
Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died | 24 | 11.65% | |
Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country | 14 | 6.80% | |
ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread | 17 | 8.25% | |
ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter | 15 | 7.28% | |
ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming | 2 | 0.97% | |
Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy | 10 | 4.85% | |
ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union | 5 | 2.43% | |
ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die | 25 | 12.14% | |
Total: | 206 votes |
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forkboy84 posted:I bet that story on the front of the Daily Mail isn't based in reality. I just read the cover in a shop, according to the first paragraph it is a 10-page report about printers, but the bit about minorities is just one part - how long, I don't know - that ultimately concludes that there would not be any issue of discrimination. My own personal guess that it's a standard form document used for many purposes that includes a section on potential discrimination as standard and some guy in an office has just written a version of 'it's a bunch of printers so we'll probably be fine' in however many words are required. An organisation the size of police scotland probably has a lot to print off, so I can't say I'm that concerned that somebody has been paid to think about printing for a ten-page span or so. I'm more surprised that the police pay people to think about issues relating to discrimination, amirite, amirite, hey-o
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# ? Sep 1, 2016 14:42 |
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# ? May 11, 2024 13:03 |
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Looking at that map of the most deprived areas is quite depressing, as pretty much every half decent house that I can afford is in at best an orange zone. There are even some nice looking ones in the deepest red areas but frankly I already knew they'd be red before seeing that map.
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# ? Sep 1, 2016 16:07 |
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Budgie posted:Looking at that map of the most deprived areas is quite depressing, as pretty much every half decent house that I can afford is in at best an orange zone. There are even some nice looking ones in the deepest red areas but frankly I already knew they'd be red before seeing that map. For what it's worth, my flat is in an orange zone and it certainly doesn't feel like a deprived place, though it's the south side of Glasgow so it's right next to yellow and near some blue and that might be skewing things. My old (rented) flat is in the red and I really liked living there, but Govanhill is a bit unusual. Niric fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Sep 1, 2016 |
# ? Sep 1, 2016 18:03 |
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I'm slap bang in the centre of Govanhill ground zero and it's fine except for the fly-tipping landlords, and absolute neglect of Glasgow City Council.
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# ? Sep 1, 2016 20:02 |
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Today's front pages from the BBCquote:The front page of The Herald highlights a report which claims payday lending is "absolutely corrosive to mental health"among those who are already vulnerable. The national continues to be the dullest and least stylish of propaganda while the mail couldn't seem to decide which stock story to go with, so neatly divides the front page equally between (pictures of) THE (young female) ROYALS and CANCER. The Star and the sun go with sex, naturally, and the lack of the express can only be down to loony left BBC bias (not to be confused with "anti-scottish" BBC bias) Niric fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Sep 2, 2016 |
# ? Sep 2, 2016 08:29 |
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It should come as no surprise to anyone that the "report" mentioned on the cover of the National comes from everyone's favourite unhinged SNP front, the Common Weal, and that it isn't actually a report at all. It was written by their own "voluntary researcher", Dr Craig Dalzell, an unemployed laser engineer who has no background whatsoever in economics, politics or law. In case you're wondering, the £2bn saving is based on an independent Scotland not taking on any of the UK debt - inevitably phrased as the UK refusing to give plucky wee Scotland any of the UK assets. Even the £800m is based on refusing to pay part of the debt because the evil UK withholds rightful Scottish assets.
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# ? Sep 2, 2016 09:03 |
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Moving on to more important things than "what drivel is The National making up today?" that pun on the front page of The Sun is appalling. Cid-heir? gently caress off. I hope Rupert Murdoch loses all his money & whoever wrote that ends up unemployed when the Communist Party buys The Sun & merges it with the Morning Star.
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# ? Sep 2, 2016 09:53 |
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So are we actually getting another Indy referendum?
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# ? Sep 2, 2016 10:34 |
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Not for the foreseeable future, no.
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# ? Sep 2, 2016 11:15 |
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Heads up on todays Twitter outrage.
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# ? Sep 2, 2016 12:34 |
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Ok well that's just taking the piss.
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# ? Sep 2, 2016 12:49 |
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Pretty sure that the earliest recorded use of the name is in England. Yep - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haggis#History_and_etymology And Macsween's have this to say - quote:The biggest myth of all, in a way, is that haggis belongs to Scotland alone. Haggis is actually a very ancient, global dish. Going back thousands of years, when hunters returned with their kill they would cook-up the parts of the animal that needed eaten first. The fresh offal would be chopped and mixed with cereal and herbs and cooked over the fire in the ready-made saucepan (the stomach). Hey presto – the first haggis. Many cultures actually had haggis made from different animals depending on what was being hunted and we like to think of haggis as the celebratory dish that everyone shared after the big hunt! But mostly, who gives a gently caress if it tastes decent?
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# ? Sep 2, 2016 13:47 |
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Anyone who thinks sticking a bunch of otherwise unappetising offal inside a stomach is a uniquely Scottish idea probably needs to get out a bit more.
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# ? Sep 2, 2016 13:52 |
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I'm reminded of this. Though I personally would much rather eat oats than haggis.
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# ? Sep 3, 2016 01:55 |
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Wherever it has historically been eaten, English people tend to get grossed out at the mere mention of it, so they can gently caress off with this branding. Mind you, I'm snooty enough about only eating it from certain local butchers.
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# ? Sep 3, 2016 12:00 |
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I like sausage and black pudding, as well as liver, I've just not found a haggis that tasted very good, usually crappy meat and too much pepper.
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# ? Sep 3, 2016 12:03 |
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Haggis is good, its basically a halfway house between sausage and burger that you can eat without teeth. It properly owns bones with other things though, like Haggis on burgers or Balmoral Chicken. Its weird it has this stigma as gross elsewhere though, if anything its a bit too bland.
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# ? Sep 3, 2016 22:12 |
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I don't think it's the taste that puts people off it, it's the origin story wimps
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# ? Sep 3, 2016 22:44 |
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Coohoolin posted:Ok well that's just taking the piss. Yeah wrapping something from one country up in the flag of another is bad
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# ? Sep 4, 2016 00:50 |
nopantsjack posted:Haggis is good, its basically a halfway house between sausage and burger that you can eat without teeth. Haggis pakora is proper tasty fusion cuisine
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# ? Sep 4, 2016 01:07 |
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Haggis is shite and we all just pretend to like it. Also, I think it must be a viking import as the scandies have an excellent track record w/r/t making unappetising meals out of things most sane people become nauseous at the mere prospect of ingesting.
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# ? Sep 4, 2016 07:57 |
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Haggis is great and sane people don't have a problem eating offal.
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# ? Sep 4, 2016 11:11 |
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TheHoodedClaw posted:Haggis pakora is proper tasty fusion cuisine I saw that on the menu at a curry house a year ago and was like 'lmao that is just an awful thing lets get some ironically to laugh at it' and was then 'holy poo poo this is the best thing'
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# ? Sep 4, 2016 11:16 |
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TomViolence posted:Haggis is shite and we all just pretend to like it. Also, I think it must be a viking import as the scandies have an excellent track record w/r/t making unappetising meals out of things most sane people become nauseous at the mere prospect of ingesting.
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# ? Sep 4, 2016 12:08 |
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TomViolence posted:Haggis is shite and we all just pretend to like it. Also, I think it must be a viking import as the scandies have an excellent track record w/r/t making unappetising meals out of things most sane people become nauseous at the mere prospect of ingesting. haggis is fantastic and you're wrong, but on your other point we came up with the deep fried mars bar so i think we're just as capable of culinary horrors as the next people group
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# ? Sep 4, 2016 12:13 |
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Haggis, haggis pizzas and haggis pakoras are all brilliant. Haggis burritos are an abomination.
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# ? Sep 4, 2016 21:13 |
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i really wanted to like haggis burritos but no dice. turns out there may in fact be a food in existence that does not go with salsa and guacamole.
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# ? Sep 4, 2016 21:20 |
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Monday's front pages from stvquote:Here are all the stories making headlines in Scotland on Monday September 5. Can't say there's much of great interest front page wise today - but nothing particularly bad either (unless you're Keith vaz). Also, a week old, but just got around to reading the current Private Eye, and they had this take on the Stephen Daisley/STV/SNP story:
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 08:27 |
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BBC: Scotland's papers: Paige Doherty murder and child abuse inquiryquote:The Scotsman leads with the news that a child has died in Scotland as a result of an E. coli outbreak linked to blue cheese. The only papers with news stories of national interest are the express and the national? What the hell?
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 08:28 |
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Interesting approach, this! Scottish universities agree to lower entry standards for disadvantaged students. Vonnie Sandlan, NUS Scotland president, says: quote:I love the widening access & widening participation agenda, and throughout the Commission on Widening Access I was clear that contextualising admissions had to go beyond dropping entry requirements by one grade, or maybe two. NUS Scotland has been banging on about truly contextualising admissions for ages, and so it's absolutely incredible to see the sector body representing Universities in Scotland has decided not to wait for the Fair Access Commissioner to be appointed, and to just plough on making admissions fairer. http://www.heraldscotland.com/NEWS/14724626.All_Scottish_universities_to_drop_entry_grades_for_disadvantaged_students/?ref=rss
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 17:25 |
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Niric posted:BBC: Scotland's papers: Paige Doherty murder and child abuse inquiry You missed out at least one paper, or possibly a late edition, but Nicola Sturgeon apparently just declared that she'd work with the Tories in a Brexit coalition. I haven't read the details so won't comment further, but in any event she may yet take Owen Smith up on his offer of a sweetie.
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 17:35 |
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Coohoolin posted:Interesting approach, this! Scottish universities agree to lower entry standards for disadvantaged students. This seems like it (could be) a really good idea, though the implementation is going to be a bugger; are they proposing means testing every student? I know student loans already (can) involve this, but seems even more of a stretch to do it at the university application stage. Possibly the schools might be able to add a note to any application (and this would probably be easier when/if named person comes in), but it's individuals not schools who apply, and would still require schools to be pushing disadvantaged pupils towards uni, which they could be doing anyway but aren't (or aren't sufficiently/effectively). Jedit posted:You missed out at least one paper, or possibly a late edition, but Nicola Sturgeon apparently just declared that she'd work with the Tories in a Brexit coalition. I haven't read the details so won't comment further, but in any event she may yet take Owen Smith up on his offer of a sweetie. Both the P&J and the National seem to have it. I just did a quick google, so other outlets probably have variants, but as far as I can tell it's a complete non-story: Sturgeon says a "coalition" of people who agree with her would be a good thing, doesn't say who, or how, or in what capacity they'd coalesce, or what this coalition entails, or anything meaningful whatsoever. It's the vaguest of vague political grandstanding, basically Of course, this is totally different from that time Labour politicians worked with Tory politicians on a single issue. That was unforgivable and unjustifiable and a sign they're all the same and means never voting Labour again etc etc P&J: quote:Sturgeon suggests she could work with pro-EU Tories to avoid “hard Brexit” Niric fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Sep 6, 2016 |
# ? Sep 6, 2016 17:56 |
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Angepain posted:i really wanted to like haggis burritos but no dice. turns out there may in fact be a food in existence that does not go with salsa and guacamole. Nonsense, haggis tacos are epic!
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 18:18 |
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Coohoolin posted:Interesting approach, this! Scottish universities agree to lower entry standards for disadvantaged students. Still don't think I'll get in with 2 crappy Highers tbh. It's a conspiracy to keep me out of university. (No it's not, I could just do an Access to HE course. Shame Inverness College (sorry, the University of Highlands & Islands) doesn't offer them)
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 18:29 |
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Niric posted:Both the P&J and the National seem to have it. I just did a quick google, so other outlets probably have variants, but as far as I can tell it's a complete non-story: Sturgeon says a "coalition" of people who agree with her would be a good thing, doesn't say who, or how, or in what capacity they'd coalesce, or what this coalition entails, or anything meaningful whatsoever. It's the vaguest of vague political grandstanding, basically Depends what the issue is. If the issue is promoting Tory policies to gently caress the poor, then it's unforgivable. If the issue is party agnostic but of national significance (e.g. referenda to leave various political unions) then there's no reason why Labour and Tory shouldn't agree on it. It's the same with the SNP, except in this case Sturgeon is backpedalling on her own party's line to try and drag the Tories away from theirs. This is IMO an extremely unwise move; at this point in her premiership Theresa May is in no way going to allow the tail to wag the dog. All Sturgeon has achieved is to cast herself as Nick Clegg 2: Electric Boogal-EU.
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 18:29 |
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Jedit posted:This is IMO an extremely unwise move; at this point in her premiership Theresa May is in no way going to allow the tail to wag the dog. All Sturgeon has achieved is to cast herself as Nick Clegg 2: Electric Boogal-EU. I disagree on this point of it being unwise or will reflect badly. I think sturgeon is intentionally doing vague substance-less grandstanding. She's quite aware it will have no effect, and is probably happier that way because it means not having to do anything while giving the appearance of doing something. It's meaningless, but it does have a tangible benefit for Sturgeon and the SNP; she's presenting herself as the de facto president of Scotland, suggesting that she and the Scottish Parliament should have a role in foreign affairs. The implication is that the first minister should and in fact is doing all the talking for Scotland on all issues - not Scottish MPs at Westminster, which helps to define Scotland as a distinct political unit
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 18:55 |
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Jedit posted:It should come as no surprise to anyone that the "report" mentioned on the cover of the National comes from everyone's favourite unhinged SNP front, the Common Weal, and that it isn't actually a report at all. It was written by their own "voluntary researcher", Dr Craig Dalzell, an unemployed laser engineer who has no background whatsoever in economics, politics or law. Next thing the Tories will be employing a pet food salesman to write their economic policy papers.
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 19:58 |
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Lol I didn't know this thread was here, can someone catch me up on how terrible it is? I do *not* live in Scotland currently.
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 21:30 |
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forkboy84 posted:Still don't think I'll get in with 2 crappy Highers tbh. It's a conspiracy to keep me out of university. UHI certainly offered them a few years ago... Though you could always do a couple more Highers at Inverness College?
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 21:48 |
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# ? May 11, 2024 13:03 |
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Hoops posted:Lol We're mostly just sitting around waiting for something interesting to happen
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 21:55 |