Inferior Third Season posted:

I like how she is just admitting that the GOP is incapable of ever changing itself to the point that immigrant populations would ever consider voting for them.

Eifert Posting posted:

The Hillary health thing was the shortest argument I ever had with my Dad:

"Well I saw some stuff about Hillary being unwell."
"Alright, if that's true, Who do you like more? Kaine or Clinton?"
"Kaine."
"So your problem is?"

Cythereal posted:

Also for those raising concerns over Hillary's age, Trump is older than she is.

Rhesus Pieces posted:

They're not concerned about her dying in office. It's all a part of the belief that she's constantly lying about everything and hiding the Truth from the public.

Yinlock posted:

Yes but he also has proof that he will be the healthiest candidate in history because he has a signed doctor's note, because apparently the government is primary school.

Eifert Posting posted:

The thing this election cycle has been really driving home to me is that Republican talking points sound lazy and dumb because they can't say what they want, not because they are lazy and dumb.

jwang posted:

Man, NPR programs are great. This American Life has an episode on how terrible the Louisiana public defender office got shafted, and as a result a defendant got the best lawyer he could. In the same episode, they talked about how the US had a secret camp where they interrogated Nazi prisoners. Here is the transcript of the episode, number 595.

The Glumslinger posted:

Cross posting this since it is political news


Imagine how much poo poo any other public (or private) sector group if they refused to work because someone said something mean about them?

Yinlock posted:

This is still a genuinely brilliant long-term narrative, since she's a LIAR then even if there's no evidence about anything she's accused of it must have existed but she is hiding it, because she loves lies.

Man, Republicans used to be on the loving ball with their evil. The easiness of milking 9/11 to get a free pass on everything for a few years seems to have knocked the guile out of them.

Yinlock posted:

Yes but he also has proof that he will be the healthiest candidate in history because he has a signed doctor's note, because apparently the government is primary school.

Dick Trauma posted:

Maybe I thought of this first because I'm old.



Also just in case the anti-Obama apocalypse-level hysteria wasn't enough:


I love the way Obama and Clinton have been molded into some sort of dual-headed monster like Kuato, the ObamaClinton!

Kro-Bar posted:

Large earthquake (5.6) hits Oklahoma. But what fracking?!

Kro-Bar posted:

Large earthquake (5.6) hits Oklahoma. But what fracking?!

Rhesus Pieces posted:

They're not concerned about her dying in office. It's all a part of the belief that she's constantly lying about everything and hiding the Truth from the public.

Kro-Bar posted:

Large earthquake (5.6) hits Oklahoma. But what fracking?!

mandatory lesbian posted:

it's pretty cool we've advanced enough in technology that we can cause earthquakes

Yinlock posted:

Yes but he also has proof that he will be the healthiest candidate in history because he has a signed doctor's note, because apparently the government is primary school.

Yinlock posted:

That's what the whole SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIORS/WAR ON POLITICAL CORRECTNESS thing is about, things would be so much easier if they could cut out the middle man and just be openly racist/sexist/bigoted without consequence.

Instant Sunrise posted:

Kro-Bar posted:

Large earthquake (5.6) hits Oklahoma. But what fracking?!

Yinlock posted:

This is still a genuinely brilliant long-term narrative, since she's a LIAR then even if there's no evidence about anything she's accused of it must have existed but she is hiding it, because she loves lies.

Man, Republicans used to be on the loving ball with their evil. The easiness of milking 9/11 to get a free pass on everything for a few years seems to have knocked the guile out of them.

On Terra Firma posted:

The thing that drives me up a wall with the whole "Clinton is a LIAR" thing is that you can go through any fact checking website and see Trump lies through his teeth left and right. Comparing their statements and seeing how true most of them are isn't even close. When I bring that up they say the sites have a liberal bias. When I ask them to point out where the bias is they can't show anything. These people are not even worth arguing against. They say they hate liars but they back Trump. That tells me all I need to know so I ignore them. You can't even have an argument with them about policy like you could in the past.

Tell me you want to carpet bomb every Muslim country on earth. I get it. Tell me you want to go back to the gold standard. You're dumb but I get that. Tell me you want to dismantle every EPA protection. Ok sure. Tell me you hate Clinton because she lies but love Trump because he's honest...What?

FactsAreUseless posted:

http://www.clickhole.com/article/political-crisis-antonin-scalias-vacant-supreme-co-4774

Stultus Maximus posted:

This American Life is PRI, not NPR.

Rhesus Pieces posted:

https://twitter.com/johnjharwood/status/771813931421687808

Can you loving imagine if Hillary was caught doing this? Guaranteed round-the-clock coverage.

Rhesus Pieces posted:

Speaking of, here's yet another article on how shameless NC Republicans are about preventing "democrats who just happen to be black" from voting:



"How dare you call us racist, we're just aggressively disenfranchising voters because they're democrats, so it's all above board!"

Notice they don't even bother using the "in-person voter fraud" fig leaf anymore.

Lightning Knight posted:

What leverage do the Saudis have over Hillary Clinton? What are they going to do, manipulate the price of oil? If they had the power to do that unilaterally we wouldn't be seeing remarkably low gas prices right now. This isn't the '70s and OPEC isn't going to blockade the US over Clinton Cash. They stand to lose far more than they'd gain. Also here's your daily reminder that the Saudis depend on their continued access to the cock of the US military-industrial complex they suck daily and would shrivel up and die without it. They're not going to get into a pissing contest with President Clinton over some small change donation they made to her charity in the past and risk starting a feud with the leader of the free world. Historically, that tends not to go well for tinpot dictatorships.

VitalSigns posted:

Could you explain to me what strings are attached?

Hmmm, donating to a group trying to overturn Citizens United and close the spigot of ultrarich donors and corporations buying politicians. Must be a false flag to throw us off the trail, exactly what a puppetmaster Jew would do!

botany posted:

I just want to point out that this article is bullshit. It blames the Community Reinvestment Act for the 07/08 financial crash, which is the rightwing narrative despite the fact that it's absolutely untrue. Only about 6% of misprized mortgages were originated under the CRA, the majority of subprimes were for lenders that made too much money to be covered by the CRA. It also blames Fannie and Freddie, despite the fact that (a) the bubble coincided with a period where their market share dropped significantly and (b) Fannie and Freddie loans were about 6 times less likely to default during the whole shitshow.

hexenmexen posted:

Do you have a source for this, I'd be interested to read more.

Yinlock posted:

The explanation is as simple as it is inexcusable: decades of indoctrination by the right fear-machine. The overall feeling of "Clinton is a shady liar" comes from a lot of hard work and constant baseless accusations, and the right has been presenting facts and feelings as the same thing, because it's one way to get around the mental paradox of conflicting beliefs. Combine that with the human brain's extreme reluctance to admit it's wrong(especially with the dumb/self-absorbed) and you've got a nearly invincible bullshit wall.

I.e: ""Trump is an honest man and Hillary is a liar", reality clearly disagrees with this, but feelings are just as important as facts and I feel that these things are true. Since they are true, anybody saying otherwise must be at fault because of bias. To take this train of thought any further would make me uncomfortable, so it stops there."

Things usually devolve to shouting if they get pushed beyond that, because admitting you're wrong etc.

A Man With A Plan posted:

In 2007, Oklahoma had one 3.0 magnitude earthquake. Last year, they had over 800. I lived in Dallas from 2009 go 2015 and I went from not being aware earthquakes could happen there to seeing one every couple of months. Friends of mine who live in towers in Dallas said thsir buildings were swaying with this last one, and these buildings aren't made to withstand earthquakes.

Rhesus Pieces posted:

They're not concerned about her dying in office. It's all a part of the belief that she's constantly lying about everything and hiding the Truth from the public.

Eifert Posting posted:

The Hillary health thing was the shortest argument I ever had with my Dad:

"Well I saw some stuff about Hillary being unwell."
"Alright, if that's true, Who do you like more? Kaine or Clinton?"
"Kaine."
"So your problem is?"

quote:

It was not enough for Vice President Al Gore to venture a crisp pronunciation of Milosevic, as in Slobodan, the Yugoslav president who refuses to be pried from power … Mr. Gore had to go a step further, volunteering the name of Mr. Milosevic’s challenger, Vojislav Kostunica. Then he had to go a step beyond that, noting that Serbia plus Montenegro equals Yugoslavia … and as Mr. Gore loped effortlessly through the Balkans, barely able to suppress his self-satisfied grin, it became ever clearer that the point of all the thickets of consonants and proper nouns was not a geopolitical lesson … it was more like oratorical intimidation, an unwavering effort to upstage and unnerve an opponent whose mind and mouth have never behaved in a similarly encyclopedic fashion.

But neither man could resist reverting to type: in Mr. Gore's case, the man who loves to show off how much he knows; in Mr. Bush's case, the man who would rather sidestep the bogs of detailed policy to get to the meadows of emotional pronouncements.

Mr. Bush even told a story about a flood-devastated family in Texas with whom he had cried.

''That's what governors do,'' he said.

Despite Mr. Gore's efforts at laughter and all his references to the middle-class people who had become his chums, he was above all a reference book of foreign names and domestic facts and figures.

Mr. Gore lunged for his speaking time, and quickly crammed it with words.

...

True to form, Mr. Gore adopted the lexicon of a teacher.

''Let me explain the difference,'' he said. Mr. Gore attacked, firing the same bullet over and over: that the ''wealthiest 1 percent'' of Americans would get more money in tax cuts from Mr. Bush than Mr. Bush would spend on social programs for less privileged Americans.

They were dressed almost like twins, in red ties and dark suits. But they were hardly identical.

Mr. Gore kept digressing to explain things, as if Mr. Bush needed the tutorials. Mr. Bush kept telling voters to listen to his own words and not Mr. Gore's characterizations of them, as if nothing Mr. Gore said could be trusted.