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Zeris posted:If you weren't there yourself then shut up just shut up 
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Where were you? When they built the ladder to heaven?
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Sep 2, 2016 02:24
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psydude posted:Everyone just go read Relentless Strike and then we won't have to continue this conversation. I don't like military books just give me a tl;dr.
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Sep 2, 2016 02:25
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everyone just go read your school textbooks because military books are gay compared to using your gi bill
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Sep 2, 2016 02:52
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Ace of Baes posted:I don't like military books just give me a tl;dr. It's written by an actual journalist and not a ghost writer masquerading as an ex-SEAL.
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Sep 2, 2016 02:55
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Justin Tyme posted:everyone just go read your school textbooks because military books are gay compared to using your gi bill Yeah I'm gonna go read my math textbook, said nobody ever!!!
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Sep 2, 2016 03:26
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Ace of Baes posted:Yeah I'm gonna go read my math textbook, said nobody ever!!! oh wow cool reg date
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Sep 2, 2016 03:38
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:oh wow cool reg date Thanks Lowtax gave it to me back when my username was 7777777.
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Sep 2, 2016 03:55
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Ace of Baes posted:Yeah I'm gonna go read my math textbook, said nobody ever!!! My parents made me do this 30 minutes a day in High School.
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Sep 2, 2016 04:52
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Soulex posted:My parents made me do this 30 minutes a day in High School. jesus they must have been so disappointed when you enlisted
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Sep 2, 2016 04:53
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Soulex posted:My parents made me do this 30 minutes a day in High School. Are you Asian? I never studied in high school, but I also graduated with like a 1.3 GPA, thankfully I was smart enough to use TA while I was in and got to transfer to a good university when I got out.
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Sep 2, 2016 05:00
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:jesus they must have been so disappointed when you enlisted One of my buddies was super good at math in highschool but kind of a slacker at everything else. His dad was a pretty badass dude: commissioned from ROTC at UCSB in 1964 and did two tours in Vietnam as a field artillery officer, including one during the Tet Offensive where his battery was running direct fire missions against advancing VC and NVA. On two different occasions he missed being shot in the head by sniper fire because he'd turned his head at the last second; on both occasions the shots hit other people and killed them. Got home, got a MS in anthropology and lived among the Navajo in New Mexico. Got a MPH and went on to do addiction research at Walter Reed regarding the military's heroin epidemic. Eventually started working with both public and non-profit entities to clean up lead paint in Baltimore, before finally retiring. He went skydiving for his 70th birthday. So anyway, he hand-writes this long letter to his son explaining both the positives and the negatives of the military, including why he believed his son was better off not joining at all and why he would absolutely hate it. Of course my buddy said "gently caress YOU DAD" and joined anyway because kids are dumb.
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Sep 2, 2016 05:06
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Let's be real though when most people decide theyre gonna join the army they've already made up their mind. I know if someone would have told me not to join I would have been like gently caress you man I bag groceries.
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Sep 2, 2016 05:10
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RichieHimself posted:I think I'm the only one here that actually got recalled and showed up. It was very easy to get out of from what I saw, but this was a group of 11b so it could have been different for other jobs. I think with infantry they just recalled a shitload and expected most to not show up or not be fit to deploy. In my recall group in early 2009, they recalled around 350 dudes and only about 150 reported and less than 100 were deployed. Dudes were getting sent home just for telling the medical folks that they had PTSD symptoms. There's at least two of us. 09 as well.
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Sep 2, 2016 05:18
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happy gently caress the army friday gently caress everything about it
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Sep 2, 2016 09:32
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Soulex posted:My parents made me do this 30 minutes a day in High School.
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Sep 2, 2016 11:04
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SwampDonkey posted:There's at least two of us. 09 as well.  Where did you end up?
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Sep 2, 2016 13:35
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There should be some official rule in philosophy or the humanities or whatever that says the stupider the idea that someone has set out on, the more counterproductive it becomes to talk them out of it. When someone wants to join the army, trying to get them not to will only sweeten the deal in their eyes. It's always been this way and always will be.
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Sep 2, 2016 13:37
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:happy gently caress the army friday This should be a national holiday, and make it a four day.
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Sep 2, 2016 13:40
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Nobody tried to talk me out of joining the army, and that's when I realized I didn't have any true friends.
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Sep 2, 2016 16:33
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lick my taint army
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Sep 2, 2016 16:59
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RichieHimself posted:
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Sep 2, 2016 17:09
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SwampDonkey posted:Kalsu Kalsu owned, what year? I was there in 05-06 and it was just a sand berm perimeter when i showed up. I heard it got really nice a rotation or 2 after us.
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Sep 2, 2016 17:22
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:Kalsu owned, what year? I was there in 05-06 and it was just a sand berm perimeter when i showed up. I heard it got really nice a rotation or 2 after us. 08-09 & yeah there was a huge dfac & decent gym. Had a Green Bean & they added a Pizza Hut during that time.
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Sep 2, 2016 17:28
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SwampDonkey posted:08-09 & yeah there was a huge dfac & decent gym. Had a Green Bean & they added a Pizza Hut during that time. Even with that it turned back into a poo poo hole in 2010. Never stopped raining rockets. The average was 2-3 a day hitting on base. Trust 3 ACR to turn anything remotely nice into a hell hole.
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Sep 2, 2016 20:40
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ASAPI posted:Even with that it turned back into a poo poo hole in 2010. Never stopped raining rockets. The average was 2-3 a day hitting on base. Trust 3 ACR to turn anything remotely nice into a hell hole. That was going on then too. At least one ricocheted off a T wall & through a CHU
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Sep 2, 2016 21:39
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cravius posted:Ft Banning lmao God drat auto-correct. I did nothing all day, that's how to do the out of the Army thing, right?
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Sep 2, 2016 22:57
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bulletsponge13 posted:God drat auto-correct. I gained 20 pounds in three months.
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Sep 2, 2016 23:16
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TBeats posted:I gained 20 pounds in three months. drat, dude, you gained weight faster than me after I was put on meds with a side effect of "weight gain" and was told to do literally nothing for 4-6 weeks after a surgery.
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Sep 3, 2016 00:54
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mlmp08 posted:drat, dude, you gained weight faster than me after I was put on meds with a side effect of "weight gain" and was told to do literally nothing for 4-6 weeks after a surgery. I stayed stoned with the munchies literally 24/7.
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Sep 3, 2016 01:11
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Crazy Mike posted:In a plan about as stupid as timing the market I'm waiting for the combination of unpopular war, absolute bottom of the barrel in desperation and needs of the force combined with a soaring economy sending all the smart talented 6 figure income potential people out before I reapply for OCS and have the highest chances of getting my gold bar. If anyone can do it, Hillary Clinton can. It is hard to direct commission just listen to the sgt in my company that has been waiting since I was a butterbar and now I am about ready to pin on the railroad tracks.
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Sep 3, 2016 01:12
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White Chocolate posted:It is hard to direct commission just listen to the sgt in my company that has been waiting since I was a butterbar and now I am about ready to pin on the railroad tracks. The board results for our YG won't be released until some time next year. Meanwhile I'll be automatically be promoted to O3 the moment I hit the loving IRR because the Army is stupid.
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Sep 3, 2016 01:29
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Myself, Zeris, TED, who else got O-3 at 36 months? Good luck to all the idiots that have to serve under those 36 month captains who are now, or about to be, O-4s
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Sep 3, 2016 23:38
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iKon posted:Myself, Zeris, TED, who else got O-3 at 36 months? My current unit has several of them, some of which have never deployed. e: Every person I commissioned with (26 people) has gotten out or is getting out within the next 8 months. This includes reserve, active, and national guard. The one exception is a girl in the VAARNG who has been guaranteed a spot all the way to O6, but I guess that's what happens in the national guard. psydude fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Sep 4, 2016 |
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Sep 4, 2016 01:36
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Not gonna lie, guard/reserve lifestyle especially with 100% guaranteed promotions really seems to not be that bad of a trade-off. 20 years and you get yourself a retirement check at 60 *or whatever the retirement age will be for us* plus one weekend a month and two weeks in the summer isn't bad in the grand scheme of things. I guess I'm just at that point where I'm actually wanting to retire and not be a wal-mart greeter at 70 so this poo poo sounds like a good idea to my 29 year old brain...
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Sep 4, 2016 02:05
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MurderBot posted:Not gonna lie, guard/reserve lifestyle especially with 100% guaranteed promotions really seems to not be that bad of a trade-off. 20 years and you get yourself a retirement check at 60 *or whatever the retirement age will be for us* plus one weekend a month and two weeks in the summer isn't bad in the grand scheme of things. LMAO It isn't 1 weekend/month, 2 weeks/year. It's more like whenever the gently caress we want for however the gently caress we want. Promotions aren't guaranteed- you have to find a slot, they won't let you serve above/below. Add in the normal Army fucker that will of course be condensed, so instead of having a month to do something, you will have a day or two and have to do it every month for three months because only the truly incompetent get full time positions. Even after you do twenty, you won't get your pension until 60 (or is it 65?) and then it is based on points that you acquire by attending drill. It is like a lovely RPG version of the real Army, where the only DLC available is depression.
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Sep 4, 2016 03:27
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iKon posted:Myself, Zeris, TED, who else got O-3 at 36 months? I got out right as they switched it to the 40-something month requirement. My buddies that were staying in were fairly salty about it, but I couldn't hear them since I was in the promised land of weed and college.
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Sep 4, 2016 03:43
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MurderBot posted:Not gonna lie, guard/reserve lifestyle especially with 100% guaranteed promotions really seems to not be that bad of a trade-off. 20 years and you get yourself a retirement check at 60 *or whatever the retirement age will be for us* plus one weekend a month and two weeks in the summer isn't bad in the grand scheme of things. For officers, the Army Reserve follows the same promotion model as the active component. For NCOs, if you aren't willing to drill at a unit 300 miles away then good luck ever getting promoted past E4. Guard is an entirely different beast that is entirely political, both for NCOs and officers.
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Sep 4, 2016 03:56
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psydude posted:For NCOs, if you aren't willing to drill at a unit 300 miles away then good luck ever getting promoted past E4. No poo poo, this is how the worst people get promoted. A normal human being isn't willing to drive all the way across the state to pick up E5, whereas the type of guy you don't want in charge of you is. My understanding of Guard promotions is that it varies from state to state, so YMMV on this, but this is how it worked when I was in where I was: In order to be promoted, a slot for that rank in your MOS has to be available. There various ways of specifying if and how you'll accept a promotion: Within your current unit, within a specified list of units, within what they consider maximum acceptable driving distance (the higher the rank, the longer the distance), or statewide. So let's say you're the best SPC in the Guard. Max PT scores, know your job inside and out, a generally likeable guy and you get poo poo done. You have promotion points out the rear end. You're on the top of the points list. But you're not willing to drive to the rear end end of the state for whatever reason (for example, you drive a POS truck that gets 10 gallons to the mile) and the only slot available is in the rear end end of the state. At the very bottom of the list is a SPC who can barely tie his own shoes. He was thrown out of a SINCGARS class because he didn't know how to hold the handset and kept trying to talk into the earpiece and listen through the microphone. He could gently caress up a wet dream. Doesn't know anything about his job or the proper order of the alphabet, always has a guy like you in the next lane during qualification, and is probably a wife-beating kiddy diddler. He's willing to drive to the rear end end of the state. Now you have to call him sergeant.
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I guess I'll consider myself naive on the situation, it's pretty much a "promotion within" system when I was in, usually if you weren't promoted within your platoon you were promoted within the company, but I can't say that we ever had people lateral or promote "up" within my platoon who lived more than 2 hours away. But I got out in 11 and I was only a SPC so I don't know the games. I hear the stories about peeps moving up the ranks based highly upon TIG/TIS but I suppose it's more smoke & mirrors than it is reality. Nice and hot piss fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Sep 4, 2016 |
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