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Del Rio has to work on getting Paige her release cause he needs something to help himself look relevent in his return to the indies. Him going alone won't have the same impact given how much his stock has dropped with his recent WWE run. I have to wonder why companies want to even bother with using Del Rio. I guess they are desperate to get anybody from WWE television. He has proven time and time again that he's a huge pain to deal with. Look at how things played out with his two WWE runs and then with how he split from AAA and LU, along with no showing or canceling indy bookings.
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Roque11 posted:Del Rio has to work on getting Paige her release cause he needs something to help himself look relevent in his return to the indies. Being hosed over in the US was his appeal in Mexico 2-3 years ago. So he likely wants to pursue that again.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 11:11 |
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"there's probably a lot of photos of me, i took like a million pictures this weekend. i mean, y'know, that's probably an exaggerated number,"
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 12:59 |
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Dave "Better Abs Than Johnny Mundo" Meltzer
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 13:06 |
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loving the "Meltzer is loving ripped" chat on WOR
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 13:10 |
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AMReese posted:Bryan rants at me after I piss him off with a post I made on the F4W Board in a thread about the B&V Show on Thursday. [/quote] Greatest self own in history.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 13:10 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMapsmMbfiY
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 13:28 |
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Obviously with Raw 3 hours instead of 2, Dave is lifting 50% more than usual, and it's finally paying off.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 13:33 |
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How can he lift and also operate his stopwatch for all the matches?
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 13:37 |
St Evan Echoes posted:How can he lift and also operate his stopwatch for all the matches? Big Dave measures time in reps, which he then translates back to our earth minutes.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 13:41 |
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I still don't get how it's the fans fault for reacting that way, especially when stuff like the Revival's entire run or the Miz thing from last week or the Triple H/Daniel Bryan feud make it clear that good booking can overcome that and get fans to respond to the narrative. Plus it's extremely ironic when Bryan laughs his rear end off at some mid-80s NWA heel like Paul Jones. And bottom-line is, those same hardcore fans are Bryan's customer base. Cutting a heel promo on your customers is probably not a smart idea even if you do believe in what you say. (Cue someone telling me I'm a mark and it'll drive engagement up_
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 14:49 |
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I don't understand what represents the participation medal? Is it The WWE Universal Title belt? Or the receipt of a You Deserve It chant? Or the fans are getting a participation medal in the form of a person they like having the belt? I am so confused
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 15:14 |
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Or is it just Bryan being "I don't like thing. MILLENNIALS "
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 15:17 |
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St Evan Echoes posted:I don't understand what represents the participation medal? Is it The WWE Universal Title belt? Or the receipt of a You Deserve It chant? Or the fans are getting a participation medal in the form of a person they like having the belt? The fans want the person they think is The Best to get The Belt, and because they're happy even when the storyline is that the person cheated or doesn't deserve said belt, they must only want that person to get a medal for participating or something.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 15:17 |
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Gaz-L posted:And bottom-line is, those same hardcore fans are Bryan's customer base. Cutting a heel promo on your customers is probably not a smart idea even if you do believe in what you say. (Cue someone telling me I'm a mark and it'll drive engagement up_ I'll call you a mark because Dave and Bryan have said multiple times they want wrestling to be bigger and attract a larger non-hardcore audience because then they will get more people anyway. See: boat, gold.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 15:54 |
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I mostly agree with Alvarez, but he's being pretty intentionally obtuse if he thinks poo poo wasn't always like that to a large extent. Plenty of fans cheered The Rock when he was a heel and didn't give a drat if he murdered Mick Foley or cheated all the time to win the title, because he's the guy they liked. The nWo were practically faces a lot of the time regardless of trash throwing shenanigans. (Obviously, they booked themselves like faces anyway) The fans have always cheered for 'who they like' rather than 'the good guy' unless you go back to the 1980s or maybe earlier than that. The only difference now is that the wrestling audience HAS declined to the hardcores so instead of the people getting cheered no matter what being 'the cool guys' it's 'the good wrestlers' Another key difference is that back then when the fans turned on someone WWE would usually get rid of them or change their gimmick or do something, now they just embrace the backlash, which certainly leads to more fans being willing to cheer anything that doesn't involve Roman Reigns winning the title. I suspect if you replaced Reigns in that situation with someone the fans actually liked/gave a poo poo about, the reaction to the finish wouldn't have been 100% positive.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 16:02 |
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GoutPatrol posted:I'll call you a mark because Dave and Bryan have said multiple times they want wrestling to be bigger and attract a larger non-hardcore audience because then they will get more people anyway. See: boat, gold. Yes, but Dave doesn't cut a "You people..." promo on his readers to make that point.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 16:04 |
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Gaz-L posted:Yes, but Dave doesn't cut a "You people..." promo on his readers to make that point. Dave's gimmick is that he rarely gets worked up about anything. Even when he's really passionate about something he's never yelling and shouting. Dude is super chill. Alvarez is the excitable, overly emotive one, to the point that he screams and flips out over poo poo that doesn't even matter that much. That's his gimmick except that you can tell it frequently gets under his skin and legitimately pisses him off.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 16:20 |
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One's a worker one's a mark
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 16:41 |
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Bryan has made the same posts for a decade and does the same stuff on shows occasionally. Seems to not hurt his business.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 16:49 |
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WWE shouldn't even have to control their wrestlers on social media, since it's pretty much in their best interest as draws to protect their characters
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 16:51 |
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Dave has better abs than Johnny Mundo!
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 16:59 |
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Alain Post posted:WWE shouldn't even have to control their wrestlers on social media, since it's pretty much in their best interest as draws to protect their characters
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 17:09 |
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St Evan Echoes posted:I don't understand what represents the participation medal? Is it The WWE Universal Title belt? Or the receipt of a You Deserve It chant? Or the fans are getting a participation medal in the form of a person they like having the belt? I am guessing the participation medal he means is the title in this case? It seems like the main thing he was mad about was that basically Owens only got it because Triple H took out Reigns and Rollins for him. Thus when the fans chant he deserved it, it immediately sticks out as 'No. no you don't because you just showed up to the match essentially and didn't beat either guy on your own". That's my guess anyway!
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 18:02 |
The bucks appeal in part came from them being the only ones who were doing the too cool for school stuff. When everyone is doing the same thing then the whole thing becomes devalued.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 18:02 |
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 18:11 |
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next bola i'm taking a Dominate Me Dave sign
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 18:12 |
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ICHIBAHN posted:One's a worker one's a mark How dare you call Bryan "Chico" Alvarez a lowly mark
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 18:27 |
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Especially when he went on a rant about how the voters for the Observer Awards were a bunch of marks for voting Paul Jones the Worst Manager of the Year in 1986. A mark calling other people marks? Impossible.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 18:29 |
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PaybackJack posted:Dave's gimmick is that he rarely gets worked up about anything. Even when he's really passionate about something he's never yelling and shouting. Dude is super chill. Makes the time he got choked up about how TNA's awful bookers "hosed the company" all the more remarkable.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 18:33 |
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Skinty McEdger posted:The bucks appeal in part came from them being the only ones who were doing the too cool for school stuff.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 18:35 |
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Arbite posted:Makes the time he got choked up about how TNA's awful bookers "hosed the company" all the more remarkable.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 18:43 |
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rovert posted:Being hosed over in the US was his appeal in Mexico 2-3 years ago. So he likely wants to pursue that again. He just can't get over without doing the I've been screwed over routine. He has to use Paige to get this schtick over again since he had a failed WWE return and he looked like a sellout hypocrite returning to WWE after all that he had said about them. Of course, in a year or so we'll hear about how he's stirring up drama backstage with the offices of AAA, LU, Combate Americas or wherever else he works.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 18:53 |
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Del Rio is too young for AAA and LU.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 19:04 |
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AMReese posted:Especially when he went on a rant about how the voters for the Observer Awards were a bunch of marks for voting Paul Jones the Worst Manager of the Year in 1986. he was joking
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 20:40 |
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Spermgod posted:he was joking
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 20:48 |
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youre really stupid lol and i'm the last person who wants to give Bryan credit for anything
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 20:56 |
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A bad week for Reese But a good week for
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 20:56 |
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Spermgod posted:youre really stupid lol and i'm the last person who wants to give Bryan credit for anything
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 21:22 |
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AMReese posted:Go ahead and call me whatever you want poo poo stinky gently caress face.
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