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Good Citizen posted:I'm not even sure who the 'Hilary is sick' thing is supposed to appeal to. "Oh no Hilary stroked the gently caress out and died and now we have Tim Kaine as president for a couple years. Why oh why didn't I vote trump to avoid this horrible fate!" -quote from no on ever Desperation, they have nothing else that everyone isn't sick of hearing about over and over.
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fishmech posted:After the high profile public decapitation got out they did that, yes. It should have been there from the start. AutoPilot has always included an audible and visual warning to keep your hands on the wheel when approaching curves. The update was to cause the warning to trigger more frequently when traveling on straight roads. Given that the dude was watching Harry Potter when he slammed directly into a semi, something he could also do with a hand on the steering wheel, I'm not sure how this would have saved his life. And the word Pilot has some pretty obvious implications about self-driving ability. Your car is literally a Pro Pilot, why would it need your assistance?
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https://twitter.com/lizcgoodwin/status/772916981817147392 She finally took questions, or well, a gaggle on her plane.
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Maybe if someone tells Trump that being POTUS is by a huge margin the most dangerous job in the US, he'll drop out citing bone spurs
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fishmech posted:It is false advertising to use a term that you know the public will think means something more than you actually have. It's like the entire concept behind false advertising. You're nuts. I'm currently wearing a watch that says it is good to thirty meters and I have to be careful washing my hands. The shoes I'm wearing are advertised as lasting for decades and I've resoled them twice. This is from a cursory look around the room I'm currently in. No corporation is liable for you misinterpreting a term if a legal definition exists and says otherwise. By the metric you're describing you could file a claim against the majority of products. I'm as much a fan of living languages as anyone but the courts have a different attitude. I've never seen the inside of a Tesla but there's apparently a disclaimer every time you engage the feature. Good luck getting past that detail in court.
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Jesus christ fishmech and transportation
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I don't know why this Kevin Drum story from 2013 is on the front page of Mother Jones web site right now, probably because it has to do with labor, but it's a good read and seems appropriate in connection with the autopilot meltdown. Quick hot takes: Luddites were 200 years before their time; Capital is rapidly reaching the point that it no longer needs Labor; the rise of Fascism is inevitable.
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Eifert Posting posted:You're nuts. I'm currently wearing a watch that says it is good to thirty meters and I have to be careful washing my hands. The shoes I'm wearing are advertised as lasting for decades and I've resoled them twice. This is from a cursory look around the room I'm currently in. Enjoy the destruction of shareholder value, Mr. Musk.
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iospace posted:https://twitter.com/lizcgoodwin/status/772916981817147392 Wonder what excuse they'll make to show that this didn't count as a "proper" press conference.
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iospace posted:https://twitter.com/lizcgoodwin/status/772916981817147392 She's been taking questions this entire time, just not at a press conference.
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Anyone who doesn't imagine the first autonomous vehicles on American roads in the next five years is deceiving themselves. It's coming, and fast.
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#hackingHillary is the top trend on twitter. I saw this and assumed another DNC/Email hack. Nope. She was coughing during a speech.  This election is ridiculous.
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And yet the letter for Trump from the man who might as well be a chiropractor or an acupuncturist just fell out of the media spotlight.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:16
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Mr Interweb posted:Wonder what excuse they'll make to show that this didn't count as a "proper" press conference. Because it wasn't one? A press gaggle is basically they get together in an impromptu manner, ask a few questions, and everyone moves on with their lives. A press conference is much more formal, and this definitely wasn't one.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:16
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Mr Interweb posted:Wonder what excuse they'll make to show that this didn't count as a "proper" press conference. This kind of opaqueness certainly Raises QuestionsTM.
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Eifert Posting posted:You're nuts. I'm currently wearing a watch that says it is good to thirty meters and I have to be careful washing my hands. The shoes I'm wearing are advertised as lasting for decades and I've resoled them twice. This is from a cursory look around the room I'm currently in. I don't know, after he won all that money from his lawsuit against the movie A Never Ending Story...
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a foolish pianist posted:Anyone who doesn't imagine the first autonomous vehicles on American roads in the next five years is deceiving themselves. It's coming, and fast. This is true because the car's autopilot doesn't recognize you because you're wearing a white shirt
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a foolish pianist posted:Anyone who doesn't imagine the first autonomous vehicles on American roads in the next five years is deceiving themselves. It's coming, and fast. It'd be a bad idea to take out a student loan for truck driving school; although it was never a good choice.
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Sep 5, 2016 23:20
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a foolish pianist posted:Anyone who doesn't imagine the first autonomous vehicles on American roads in the next five years is deceiving themselves. It's coming, and fast. Or they have actually studied computing science and know 30-40 years is more likely if ever. The current iterations drive off bridges , into trucks in ideal conditions. Lidar is totally useless in heavy rain / snow . This poo poo is up there with fusion power will be generating all our energy in 10 years, any decade now ... It has incredibly hard engineering problems that may not be solvable in an economically viable way if at all.
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Epic High Five posted:There's millions of people who believe cruise control will drive their car for them and are only alive because they're not smart enough to engage it
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^^^^ Actual machine learning folks give it way shorter timelines. I'm an ML phd myself. EDIT: meant this to be a reply to JRE's post. Epic High Five posted:This is true They're literally already running as of this week in Singapore: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/08/25/world/asia/ap-us-autonomous-taxis-singapore.html You can be like 'white truck lol', but that was a surprising edge case, and sensors are already adjusted. I give human truck drivers 20 years at the very outside.
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jre posted:Or they have actually studied computing science and know 30-40 years is more likely if ever. Human beings also do all of this stuff. And are also totally useless in heavy rain and snow. Making a self driving car that performs better than human drivers would not be a huge challenge, the problem is making one that is perfect, which seems to be the expectation. Also, a computer science degree does not make you an informed authority on autonomous driving.
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Mr Interweb posted:Wonder what excuse they'll make to show that this didn't count as a "proper" press conference. I have no idea what questions are going unanswered at this point that they need to ask at whatever these people constitute as a press conference. Granted, a bunch of them spent half the day tweeting photos of the press plane so I'm sure they're all morons anyways.
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quote:For now, the taxis only run in a 2.5-square-mile (6.5 square kilometer) business and residential district called "one-north," and pick-ups and drop-offs are limited to specified locations. Riders must have an invitation from nuTonomy to use the service. The company says dozens have signed up for the launch, and it plans to expand that list to thousands of people within a few months. quote:An Associated Press reporter taking a ride Wednesday saw the safety driver step on the brakes once, when a car was obstructing the test car's lane and another vehicle, which had appeared to be parked, suddenly began moving in the oncoming lane. This is just a bullshit PR stunt, the cars have a driver in them because they don't actually work. Any "actual machine learning people" thinking that this will be viable in 5 years are idiots or trying to sell you something NippleFloss posted:Human beings also do all of this stuff. And are also totally useless in heavy rain and snow. Making a self driving car that performs better than human drivers would not be a huge challenge, jre fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Sep 5, 2016 |
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I was assured that it was only the travelling press corp that was bitching about access, and they're the ones who are getting it now in spades, so obviously the complaints will dry up right? Oh wait what's that? Politico reposted an article about how Clinton never talks to the press literally while she was talking to them?
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NippleFloss posted:AutoPilot has always included an audible and visual warning to keep your hands on the wheel when approaching curves. The update was to cause the warning to trigger more frequently when traveling on straight roads. Given that the dude was watching Harry Potter when he slammed directly into a semi, something he could also do with a hand on the steering wheel, I'm not sure how this would have saved his life. And the guy who got guillotined wasn't on a curve, he was on a straight length of road when the truck turned in front of him. Really you're just showing how stupid tesla was because if they thought for a moment they'd realize they should have the alarms all the time for hands off the wheel instead of just curves. No it doesn't, but autopilot does. Eifert Posting posted:You're nuts. I'm currently wearing a watch that says it is good to thirty meters and I have to be careful washing my hands. The shoes I'm wearing are advertised as lasting for decades and I've resoled them twice. This is from a cursory look around the room I'm currently in. No, you're nuts. Sorry you bought a knockoff watch though I guess? Or that you apparently wash your hands with a pressure washer. That some companies already practice horrible advertising doesn't mean it's good. Noone's talking about liability, just that it's false advertising, and also a terrible idea on top of it. And disclaimers are useless since people ignore it constantly - I know you've never read the disclaimers that come with the software you install and use, for instance, because you'd still be reading them all years later.
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jre posted:This is just a bullshit PR stunt, the cars have a driver in them because they don't actually work. thank you for your insight, forums user jre
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Epic High Five posted:I was assured that it was only the travelling press corp that was bitching about access, and they're the ones who are getting it now in spades, so obviously the complaints will dry up right? It's not a "true press conference" but a gaggle, so they'll still bitch.
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iospace posted:It's not a "true press conference" but a gaggle, so they'll still bitch. Theyll bitch and bitch and bitch because she's a woman who could give zero fucks about press.
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Wow this "Hacking Hillary" Twitter trend is one of the most infuriating things I've ever seen. So many alt right account bots, so much concern trolling, my god. It's giving me a literal headache.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:So Hillary just had a bit of a coughing fit during her speech. So get ready to hear about that for a week. Wrap it up Hillarailures. Even NBC is starting to take the coughing thing seriously. RIP Hillary 1947-2016
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radical meme posted:I don't know why this Kevin Drum story from 2013 is on the front page of Mother Jones web site right now, probably because it has to do with labor, but it's a good read and seems appropriate in connection with the autopilot meltdown. Quick hot takes: Luddites were 200 years before their time; Capital is rapidly reaching the point that it no longer needs Labor; the rise of Fascism is inevitable. There will always be a labor market. We just pretend to ignore it because labor is segregated from the profit by separating them into business entities like Apple and Foxconn and by separating them by an ocean. Labor is still there and in huge numbers, capital has just skirted labor laws by going around to the third world. https://twitter.com/kmoxnews/status/772931836024467456 In other news Phyllis Schlafly is dead Proust Malone fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Sep 6, 2016 |
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Ron Jeremy posted:There will always be a labor market. We just pretend to ignore it because labor is segregated from the profit by separating them into business entities like Apple and Foxconn and by separating them by an ocean. Labor is still there and in huge numbers, capital has just skirted labor laws by going around to the third world. Good riddance
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Ron Jeremy posted:In other news Phyllis Schlafly is dead Good, burn in hell you awful human.
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Ron Jeremy posted:There will always be a labor market. We just pretend to ignore it because labor is segregated from the profit by separating them into business entities like Apple and Foxconn and by separating them by an ocean. Labor is still there and in huge numbers, capital has just skirted labor laws by going around to the third world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js
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Ron Jeremy posted:https://twitter.com/kmoxnews/status/772931836024467456 Nice. Rot in hell. This drink is in honor of you no longer existing.
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Ron Jeremy posted:There will always be a labor market. We just pretend to ignore it because labor is segregated from the profit by separating them into business entities like Apple and Foxconn and by separating them by an ocean. Labor is still there and in huge numbers, capital has just skirted labor laws by going around to the third world. 
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Ron Jeremy posted:In other news Phyllis Schlafly is dead Finally we'll be able to pass the ERA!
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jre posted:This is just a bullshit PR stunt, the cars have a driver in them because they don't actually work.
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Ron Jeremy posted:There will always be a labor market. We just pretend to ignore it because labor is segregated from the profit by separating them into business entities like Apple and Foxconn and by separating them by an ocean. Labor is still there and in huge numbers, capital has just skirted labor laws by going around to the third world. When do we get to be rid of her idiot son?
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