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Lurdiak posted:
This came up some years back on Byrne's forum and he was adamant that since black people are allowed to say it to each other than it was fine for him to say it as well. It didn't go over well and something like 50 people were banned from his board for calling him out or agreeing that he was as a racist rear end in a top hat if he used it.
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People call out Byrne for being a dick, get banned, the world turns. At this point it'd be quicker to list things Bryne hasn't been a dick about.
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Sep 5, 2016 21:40
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Rhyno posted:This came up some years back on Byrne's forum and he was adamant that since black people are allowed to say it to each other than it was fine for him to say it as well. It didn't go over well and something like 50 people were banned from his board for calling him out or agreeing that he was as a racist rear end in a top hat if he used it. That is kind of missing the point of those panels.
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Sep 5, 2016 21:44
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CharlestheHammer posted:That is kind of missing the point of those panels. I don't think he was dense enough to miss the point of the use there, he was just saying that since some people were allowed to say then there was no reason he couldn't.
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Sep 5, 2016 21:47
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WickedHate posted:That wasn't even the only time! "But most of all, these words will help us to Make America Great Again."
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Sep 5, 2016 22:56
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WickedHate posted:The Rhino was extremely poorly handled all around. Shocker is great for these kinds of small cameos. Even if he only appears in like, one frame of a montage, that's his thing nowadays. A quick reminder that between the alien parasites and revenge crusades, sometimes Spider-Man deals with plain ol'supercriminals. Apparently he gets an upgraded suit at some point in the movie, which is likely part of how Tinkerer comes into play. Introducing Tinkerer as a source for bad guy tech was a good idea to avoid everything being connected to Oscorp again.
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WickedHate posted:The Rhino was extremely poorly handled all around. Shocker is great for these kinds of small cameos. Even if he only appears in like, one frame of a montage, that's his thing nowadays. A quick reminder that between the alien parasites and revenge crusades, sometimes Spider-Man deals with plain ol'supercriminals. I disagree and think the shocker and the vulture are both good classic villains who are not too overpowered or crazy to go up against an inexperienced Spider-Man.
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Sep 6, 2016 00:15
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It will be nice to see a superhero that fights against bank robbers and stuff, and not end of the world events.
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Sep 6, 2016 00:32
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I know it is crazy, but I've always though spider-man would be best as a tv show.
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twistedmentat posted:It will be nice to see a superhero that fights against bank robbers and stuff, and not end of the world events. The Raimi films were more or less like that. Personal stakes. I guess Ock's machine was the biggest threat although he wasn't trying to blow the city up maliciously. Funny when you think that each of the Raimi films had Spider-Man fighting robbers. Uncle Ben's killer, Dr. Octopus himself, those guys in the car Spider-Man stops that make him late to the play, Sandman robbing the armoured truck. Lobok fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Sep 6, 2016 |
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Mr Hootington posted:I know it is crazy, but I've always though spider-man would be best as a tv show.
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Sep 6, 2016 00:53
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I prefer animated tv shows since I feel like those have generally matched what comics are like the best.
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Sep 6, 2016 00:58
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a netflix spider-man would be awesome
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When I said soap opera, I didn't necessarily mean only live-action. Animation definitely serves the characters best (particularly the costumes). Case in point: Des Taylor's art (http://despop.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=408) for which I would give a lung to see turned into a serialized Netflix-quality cartoon. With that said, ever since Superman '78 you can't help people's preference to see live-action superheroes. I'd prefer animation, but that genie's never going back in the bottle. And there is something almost magical seeing an outfit or a location or other elements of the character in a movie, as if it almost real. Dario the Wop fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Sep 6, 2016 |
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Dacap posted:Apparently he gets an upgraded suit at some point in the movie, which is likely part of how Tinkerer comes into play. Introducing Tinkerer as a source for bad guy tech was a good idea to avoid everything being connected to Oscorp again. If this is true what's the chances of a Secret War movie adaptation. It's got the Netflix guys and the film guys and wolverine won't be missed from the roster.
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I've been kinda lukewarm on the Marvel Netflix stuff to be honest. Daredevil season 1 was ok, but I can't get into season 2 at all. Took me three tries to get through Jessica Jones because I kept getting bored.
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Popeahuntis posted:If this is true what's the chances of a Secret War movie adaptation. It's got the Netflix guys and the film guys and wolverine won't be missed from the roster. Still probably 0. It's looking like the Netflix characters exist in their own bubble in the same way as AoS. The shows will reference the films occasionally but it doesn't go the other way.
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site posted:a netflix spider-man would be awesome In the wake of the current Netflix stuff, I'm hard-pressed to name a superhero that wouldn't be awesome in a Netflix television show.
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SonicRulez posted:In the wake of the current Netflix stuff, I'm hard-pressed to name a superhero that wouldn't be awesome in a Netflix television show. The Black Bomber?
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SonicRulez posted:In the wake of the current Netflix stuff, I'm hard-pressed to name a superhero that wouldn't be awesome in a Netflix television show. Forbush Man. Actually nevermind, that would probably rule.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I've been kinda lukewarm on the Marvel Netflix stuff to be honest. Daredevil season 1 was ok, but I can't get into season 2 at all. Took me three tries to get through Jessica Jones because I kept getting bored. Jessica Jones would have been a really great 8 episode series, they padded it out way too much
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Codependent Poster posted:I hope they adapt this scene:
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Sep 6, 2016 04:19
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You can't make a Netflix show out of superheroes that require meaningful CGI or elaborate sets, it's too expensive. Hence why every Netflix Marvel show is about relatively ho-hum street-level heroes. Well I guess you could, but it would look like a tacky CW show and nobody wants that. Equilibrium fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Sep 6, 2016 |
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Sep 6, 2016 04:30
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twistedmentat posted:I will never, ever forgive Singer for what they did to Rogue in the movies. God drat, hey lets take who is probably the most popular at the time female X-men and just make her a plot device, and then just have her mope around for 2 more movies. It's pretty clear that the story they wanted to tell with her was done in one, but they kept the character around because of name recognition. I'm kind of glad they don't force her to be plot relevant too much in the sequels (unlike Storm...)
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FilthyImp posted:
That was more Halle Berry being a big name than Storm being a popular character at that point. And Halle Berry was beyond awful in those movies.
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Roth posted:I prefer animated tv shows since I feel like those have generally matched what comics are like the best. Well yes, certainly, but people just enjoy seeing live-action stuff
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Ugly In The Morning posted:That was more Halle Berry being a big name than Storm being a popular character at that point. And Halle Berry was beyond awful in those movies. Story I've heard is that she wasn't originally planning on coming back for X3 because she expected that Catwoman would make her the face of the next big superhero franchise.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Story I've heard is that she wasn't originally planning on coming back for X3 because she expected that Catwoman would make her the face of the next big superhero franchise. 
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I've been kinda lukewarm on the Marvel Netflix stuff to be honest. Daredevil season 1 was ok, but I can't get into season 2 at all. Took me three tries to get through Jessica Jones because I kept getting bored. I would probably have given up on JJ except for Kilgrave/Tenant who was awesome. I also am not really looking forward to DD3 or JJ2, I really think there's enough suitable Marvel heroes to have at most 1, maybe two seasons before leaving them and moving onto another hero.
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I hope JJ2 works out because it'd be nice to have some more women superheroes with starring roles.
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Jessica Jones and Daredevil Season 2 were great (except when the Hand stuff kicked into high gear, that poo poo got lame).
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Every episode of Daredevil season 2 was better than the previous one, until the 12th and 13th episodes where the show didn't seem to know how it wanted to end and stalled out.
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kaesarsosei posted:I would probably have given up on JJ except for Kilgrave/Tenant who was awesome. I also am not really looking forward to DD3 or JJ2, I really think there's enough suitable Marvel heroes to have at most 1, maybe two seasons before leaving them and moving onto another hero. I like (most of) the cast of JJ, but it felt like a huge chunk of the story was just filler. If it had just been JJ dealing with Kilgrave and hanging with Luke it would have been a much stronger season. I couldn't force myself to care about her talk show host friend or the dumb cop who was apparently supposed to be Nuke.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Every episode of Daredevil season 2 was better than the previous one, until the 12th and 13th episodes where the show didn't seem to know how it wanted to end and stalled out. That final fight on the rooftop REALLY felt like one of the leads had a prior engagement and they had to shoot it all in 2 hours.
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I think all the Marvel Netflix shows would have been improved by cutting the number of episodes down to 10 or so. JJ especially.
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Dacap posted:I think all the Marvel Netflix shows would have been improved by cutting the number of episodes down to 10 or so. JJ especially. And/or be more flexible with the episode length. No reason why an episode that needed it couldn't be ninety minutes. There's no reason to act like a TV show if it's not actually filling a time slot.
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Dacap posted:Apparently he gets an upgraded suit at some point in the movie, which is likely part of how Tinkerer comes into play. Introducing Tinkerer as a source for bad guy tech was a good idea to avoid everything being connected to Oscorp again. Yeah this is the way Bendis treated the Shocker in the Ultimate Universe, constant joke for a panel or two, then it suddenly changes.
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Dacap posted:I think all the Marvel Netflix shows would have been improved by cutting the number of episodes down to 10 or so. JJ especially. DD Season 2 was great with the Punisher stuff and much less so with the Hand. They clearly didn't figure out what they actually wanted as a goal in NYC because it is incredibly murky.
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Lobok posted:And/or be more flexible with the episode length. No reason why an episode that needed it couldn't be ninety minutes. There's no reason to act like a TV show if it's not actually filling a time slot. Netflix is usually pretty flexible this way. Lots of Netflix shows have about a 3-10 minute variance in length episode to episode with a longer finale.
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Dacap posted:Netflix is usually pretty flexible this way. Lots of Netflix shows have about a 3-10 minute variance in length episode to episode with a longer finale. I was pleasantly surprised that stranger things was not only just 8 episodes, but each episode varied anywhere from 40 minutes to a full hour depending on the needs of the story. I'm hoping this means we'll see more variety than the 13 ep 50min standard the marvel shows have been adhering to so far.
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