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PBS Newshour posted:Turn A is what I'm watching after G Gundam. It's the series I've been most interested in after the UC stuff, but I heard it works better after some other Gundam stuff?? So I have been holding off on it. Also I figure it's better to not just watch all the stuff I think I will like off the back so I can be surprised by stuff like Wing. It's basically wedged in canon as the final Gundam series ever chronologically, so it has some callbacks, but you won't miss much if you've only seen pre-UC0093 stuff. Most of the callbacks are real subtle, aside from the presence of a few MS designs that are pretty prominent. It's not like the main squad meets Amuro Ray's ghost and sits down for a chat with him or anything.
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Ghost Amuro would be cooler than living Amuro tho. Not that I dislike Amuro he just took a while to grow on me.
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Sep 7, 2016 19:11
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G Gundam is basically the build fighters of the mid 90s, except way more over the top and having no budget, plus dialogue that gives wing a run for cheesiness
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PBS Newshour posted:Ghost Amuro would be cooler than living Amuro tho. Ghost Amuro sez: What the gently caress why are you guys still doing this?! Also one last moment of love for Gundam Wing before we move on, I love the opening music for it! One day we'll get Frozen Teardrop. One day.
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Arcsquad12 posted:G Gundam is basically the build fighters of the mid 90s, except way more over the top and having no budget, plus dialogue that gives wing a run for cheesiness Raxivace fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Sep 7, 2016 |
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Sep 7, 2016 20:13
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I like the part in Wing where Treize just says 'nope' when Relena got appointed queen of the world because she couldn't put together an army to stop the colonies from dropping something on eartg.
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Panzeh posted:I like the part in Wing where Treize just says 'nope' when Relena got appointed queen of the world because she couldn't put together an army to stop the colonies from dropping something on eartg. Yeah,Treize is one of my favorite characters from Wing. Shame most of his coolest moments aren't on Youtube because flimsy copyright laws.
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Sep 7, 2016 21:57
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I like the part where Treize program it so the Gundam pilots could come into his house cause he was really hoping they could all just hang out some day.
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Sep 7, 2016 22:01
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I liked the part where Treize challenges Zechs to a duel to end the war and Zechs says no. Plus bathing in roses while ordering assassinations.
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Sep 7, 2016 22:14
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SeanBeansShako posted:One day we'll get Frozen Teardrop. One day. You don't know the horror you wish upon the world...
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chiasaur11 posted:I dunno. I just want you to know that I appreciated this reference
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TaurusOxford posted:You don't know the horror you wish upon the world...
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AradoBalanga posted:As much as I'd also like to see the mountain of madness that is Frozen Teardrop animated, even I know that Sunrise would scale the insanity back to some degree. The actual presented product would not be quite as insane as the novels are, thus taking away from the full FT experience. Get the guys doing Jojo to do it.
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My body is ready for the extra insanity and ultimate validation of Frozen Teardrop, even if it gets truncated.
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What is Frozen Teardrop and could it be work into Super Robot Wars? Also is eye patch narrator in G Gundam the younger brother of Wing's unseen narrator? And why isn't this show about Jimmy Crocket?
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PBS Newshour posted:What is Frozen Teardrop and could it be work into Super Robot Wars? Frozen Teardrop is the absolutely insane novel sequel to Wing where the writer heard everyone call wing wacky and proceeded to crush a pen and shout "I'll show THEM wacky, I'll show THEM ALL"
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PBS Newshour posted:What is Frozen Teardrop and could it be work into Super Robot Wars? A completely insane sequel novel to Gundam Wing that takes place mostly on mars. Yes that is 100% canon. The zeta narrator is their father. Because he's not Neo-Japanese, obvs.
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Sep 8, 2016 00:57
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In Frozen Teardrop Heero Yui gets a new gundam called Snow White which has the ability to shoot ice swans and fire phoenixes.
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ImpAtom posted:In Frozen Teardrop Heero Yui gets a new gundam called Snow White which has the ability to shoot ice swans and fire phoenixes. SOLD Also there is a mummy gundam this is the best show.
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ImpAtom posted:In Frozen Teardrop Heero Yui gets a new gundam called Snow White which has the ability to shoot ice swans and fire phoenixes.
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Raxivace posted:Did Sekai help build this thing? Only if it beats its enemies by spamming the same attacks over and over again.
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mr. stefan posted:Frozen Teardrop is the absolutely insane novel sequel to Wing where the writer heard everyone call wing wacky and proceeded to crush a pen and shout "I'll show THEM wacky, I'll show THEM ALL" It's also the original Wing writer (aka, the one who got fired early on during the TV series' production) retconning a bunch of random crap into Wing's universe via a metric fuckton of flashbacks. Like how Trieze was sexually assaulted by his mother as a child because he looked a lot like his father. Or how the only reason Duo hooked up with Hilde was because his motorcycle broke down and Duo needed the cash to fix it, and promptly leaves Hilde and his son once said motorcycle is fixed.
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Lets not forget that Relena's grandma was a mobile suit pilot who was in love with the original Heero Yuy, who had a brother who's actually Treize's father. Also Noin has a brother who looks like Zechs who turns out to be a dictator and takes over Mars while pretending to be Zechs, who basically wanders around Mars like a hobo with his daughter.
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ImpAtom posted:In Frozen Teardrop Heero Yui gets a new gundam called Snow White which has the ability to shoot ice swans and fire phoenixes. this is poes law as gently caress
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Kuvo posted:this is poes law as gently caress Frozen Teardrop is impossible to ridicule because it is its own parody.
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Kuvo posted:this is poes law as gently caress The Snow White Gundam loads different elemental cartridges. Red is a phoenix, blue is an ice swan, black a tornado and white an EMP blast. They can also be combined. (Red and Blue creates a thermal shockwave for example.) It also has angel wings made of nanomachines. There's also Scheherazade Gundam (which looks like a harem girl and has anti-nanomachine veils), Warlock Gundam (Deathscythe with combining scythes), Promethus Gundam (Heavyarms with a giant cross-shaped gun) and Epyon Bai (Wufei's new unit, three-headed Epyon) and also there's Tallgeese Heaven which has anti-nanomachine nanomachines and a black Wing Zero and the original Epyon is back and upgraded but piloted by an evil holographic Zechs and... Frozen Teardrop is amazing. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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AradoBalanga posted:the only reason Duo hooked up with Hilde was because his motorcycle broke down and Duo needed the cash to fix it, and promptly leaves Hilde and his son once said motorcycle is fixed. So by God of death he meant God of deadbeat dads? Poor Hilde.
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PBS Newshour posted:So by God of death he meant God of deadbeat dads? Even Duker Iq would call Duo out for being that much of a douchebag.
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AradoBalanga posted:Yeah, as crazy as Frozen Teardrop is, there a few points that really are genuinely bad. Such as turning Duo from the chipper nice dude who helped hold the team together into a bit of crappy husband/father who would walk out on his family just to ride his motorcycle across Mars. Even? Especially. The proud biking tradition of the middle ages should never be disgraced like that! A biker is supposed to be good to his lady, like he's supposed to be good to his ride. Disrespecting one disrespects the other.
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Jimmy Crocket is one of the good guys!
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Tomino, 1998 posted:What I want modern day Gundam fans to understand is that Gundam wasn't nurtured by the PlaModel enthusiasts. It was young women who first came to the after recording studio, and Gundam is a work that began with their support. And it was a work that had no connection to the popularity of Gundam PlaModels. So I think the most important thing is creating a work that will attract those kind of girls to it again. I don't think movies as an entertainment industry can succeed without touching on that kind of fundamental portion.
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SEED kind of proved him correct too, regardless of its actual quality.
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“The very first fans of the original Gundam were young women. Definitely not the PlaModel enthusiasts." "With both Gundam and Raideen, of the first fans to be active, 90% were girls. Among a gathering of 1000 fans, about 100 were boys." e: “Around when the first cour ended, young women began to gather to the after recording studio." (1) “It took until much later for male fans make an uproar, around the time series got canceled. I thought: You’re late to the party!” (2) "To sum it up: 1. Young girls were among the earliest supporters [of Gundam] 2. He was surprised and excited to see them waiting outside the recording studio. 3. He appreciated that they were attracted to the story/characters over the merchandising/genre trappings. 4. He hates PlaModel fans (lol)." Motto fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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Sep 8, 2016 04:33
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Tomino is an odd duck, but I like the cut of his jib.
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If Miyazaki is the grumpy old man of anime, Tomino is the crazy man shouting at kids to get off his lawn.
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tomino is cool as hell and i look forward to when everyone appreciates how good he is at visual storytelling
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Parallax posted:how good he is at visual storytelling
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Raxivace posted:Eh you're gonna have to justify this one. Zeta Gundam. How often does Quattro act without speaking? There are a ton of visual character tics in Zeta that I don't notice in other anime. A very early one that stuck out to me was when Kamille's mother died. Quattro is on the bridge with the rest of the command staff, but the moment they hear that Kamille has stolen the MK II to save his mom, Quattro immediately bolts for the door without a word. It's not even the focus of the scene; the shot never moves from the captain being center frame, but Quattro is moving in the background as incidental animation. It is subtle stuff like that that sets apart Tomino led Gundam series from non Tomino series. Characters express themselves through action or inaction more than through dialogue.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Zeta Gundam. How often does Quattro act without speaking? There are a ton of visual character tics in Zeta that I don't notice in other anime. A very early one that stuck out to me was when Kamille's mother died. Quattro is on the bridge with the rest of the command staff, but the moment they hear that Kamille has stolen the MK II to save his mom, Quattro immediately bolts for the door without a word. It's not even the focus of the scene; the shot never moves from the captain being center frame, but Quattro is moving in the background as incidental animation. It is subtle stuff like that that sets apart Tomino led Gundam series from non Tomino series. Characters express themselves through action or inaction more than through dialogue.  We have a shot of the crew hearing about Kamille piloting the Mk. II and then cut to Quattro, mostly centered in the foreground, who then wordlessly runs to the background. He's not in the background to begin with.  Then he starts running...  And then we cut to Captain Henken.  According to Wikipedia, Tomino didn't direct this episode btw. It was a guy named Hiroyuki Yokoyama. I don't think it's a bad scene, but other than Quattro running away wordlessly I don't see anything particularly noteworthy on a formal level...and that's not an especially high bar to pass to begin with to be honest. Raxivace fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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I use it as an example because it us a much better use of character than "balls fist, looks sullen, then shouts" that I see all the goddamn time. It isn't particularly noteworthy I admit, but I did notice it because it felt more natural for a guy to spring into action than to strike a pose and declare they are going to act. It's a visual medium, don't say you will do something just do it.
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