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Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


I raved about it in the PYF thread a bit and yeah, Galavant is really goddamn good.

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

NESguerilla posted:

I know the rough story of the incident but can someone explain to me how it was John Landis' fault?

At least one(by some accounts more than one) of the professionals who were paid to coordinate the stunts approached Landis that day about the pyro being too close to the helicopter. He laughed them off and made a joke about it.

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost
Landis also repeatedly told the pilot to fly lower, which caused the pyrotechnics to damage the tail rotor. This is after he hired the children using petty cash to avoid paperwork that would document that he was breaking child labor laws. Pretty much everything Landis did contributed to the tragedy, and he should have been found guilty.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
He was acquitted because they couldn't prove definitively that the thing crashed due to the pyro being too close, but most people agree that's what happened. It wasn't PROVEN TO BE A 100% FLUKE ACCIDENT like Max Landis says, there just wasn't enough definitive evidence to convict.

enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!
Twilight Zone was an inside job.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
Landis didn't get found guilty because Hollywood is incestuous and he was punished with a lackluster career change instead of hard time.

Besides that, apparently his wife, who did costumes for his productions, is known for racism on the set, with his knowledge, and he didn't intervene. Eddie Murphy, most notably, has said stuff in this vein against him. Not that he's the best source, though.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
The funniest thing about that Max Landis rant?

Last time I looked on Wikipedia, it was called the "Twilight Zone Incident," contrary to his beliefs.

Dr Monkeysee
Oct 11, 2002

just a fox like a hundred thousand others
Nap Ghost
I've heard him speak on a couple podcasts here and there and he sounds like an utterly exhausting person to be around.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

The funniest thing about that Max Landis rant?

Last time I looked on Wikipedia, it was called the "Twilight Zone Incident," contrary to his beliefs.

I mean the two are probably related

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Season 2 of Narcos is up and still rules

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Moacher posted:

The Get Down is outstanding and so much fun (does it have its own thread yet?)

I finally got around to making one since I really liked the show and no one else seemed to talk about it:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3789424

Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer
So I liked The Invitation and They Look Like People and want more of that kind of creeping paranoia that isn't loving obvious. Recommendations?

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Twerkteam Pizza posted:

So I liked The Invitation and They Look Like People and want more of that kind of creeping paranoia that isn't loving obvious. Recommendations?

Entrance. I don't know where you'd rent it nowadays, Youtube maybe?

Twerkteam Pizza
Sep 26, 2015

Grimey Drawer

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Entrance. I don't know where you'd rent it nowadays, Youtube maybe?

Thanks! I'll look around

Oh and my friend recommended 13 cameras which was just... No

HerzogZwo
Nov 30, 2000
If you like wacky stuff, High-Rise is a good bet. Added a few weeks ago to Netflix. I am a big fan of JG Ballard and thought "there is no way anyone can pull this off", and they at least came close. Not for everyone though.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

tetrapyloctomy posted:

Landis also repeatedly told the pilot to fly lower, which caused the pyrotechnics to damage the tail rotor. This is after he hired the children using petty cash to avoid paperwork that would document that he was breaking child labor laws. Pretty much everything Landis did contributed to the tragedy, and he should have been found guilty.

Can someone please explain to me how violating child labor laws contributed? Sad to say, but even if things had been completely above-board the real core problem was that Landis had no idea how dangerous the stunt actually was and would have endangered somebody else's kids. They just would have been legally employed at the time.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Violating child labor laws at minimum makes him legally culpable for the consequences.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Violating child labor laws at minimum makes him legally culpable for the consequences.

Again, I'm trying to establish how violating child labor laws makes a chopper blade cut your head off. That's literally the insinuation above - that Landis paying those kids under the table somehow contributed to their decapitation by a crashing helicopter.

At some point he was going to film that scene, not know what the gently caress he was doing, not listen to his stunt coordinator, and the accident was going to occur, whether or not the kids were paid under the table. Right?

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Nah, that's a separate issue. Landis contributed by being careless. It wasn't just one irresponsible decision, even if only one in particular caused the deaths. It took several to set this in motion. The point is that it was entirely avoidable and not just some "freak accident".

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Nah, that's a separate issue. Landis contributed by being careless. It wasn't just one irresponsible decision, even if only one in particular caused the deaths. It took several to set this in motion. The point is that it was entirely avoidable and not just some "freak accident".

I agree absolutely. Listen to your specialists.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Also, while you're right about the insinuation, remember this started from Max Landis trying to play the victim. Ironically, calling it the "Twilight Zone Incident" depersonalizes and softens what happened to avoid attributing it to something other than tragic fate.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
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~Good Times~
Wasn't John Landis doing it to specifically avoid union regulations for child actors? And has anyone read Outrageous Conduct, the book about the "Twilight Zone Case"?

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

X-Ray Pecs posted:

Wasn't John Landis doing it to specifically avoid union regulations for child actors? And has anyone read Outrageous Conduct, the book about the "Twilight Zone Case"?

Sure, right, but again this comes down to: would union regulation have saved these kids lives? Or would it just have resulted in shorter shooting days so that they were less tired when they participated in the dangerous stunt that got their heads cut off? I don't honestly know.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
Ice Cream
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Travel
~Good Times~

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Sure, right, but again this comes down to: would union regulation have saved these kids lives? Or would it just have resulted in shorter shooting days so that they were less tired when they participated in the dangerous stunt that got their heads cut off? I don't honestly know.

Union regulation probably would have led to stricter standards and more oversight, so probably.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.

X-Ray Pecs posted:

Union regulation probably would have led to stricter standards and more oversight, so probably.

Well, someone presumably advanced that argument to the court and it didn't stick, so...

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Sure, right, but again this comes down to: would union regulation have saved these kids lives? Or would it just have resulted in shorter shooting days so that they were less tired when they participated in the dangerous stunt that got their heads cut off? I don't honestly know.

The scene wouldn't have been shot that night under those conditions. With a rested crew and maybe a less stressed or rushed Landis, perhaps the stunt would have been performed differently. He was pushy and everyone was tired--tired as in sleepy and tired of putting up with his cokehead bullshit. gently caress Landis and his rear end in a top hat son.

tetrapyloctomy
Feb 18, 2003

Okay -- you talk WAY too fast.
Nap Ghost

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Can someone please explain to me how violating child labor laws contributed? Sad to say, but even if things had been completely above-board the real core problem was that Landis had no idea how dangerous the stunt actually was and would have endangered somebody else's kids. They just would have been legally employed at the time.
As others have said, if the appropriate laws had been followed there would have been greater oversight on the shoot, which would have resulted in the safety precautions not being ignored. It may also have resulted in a shoot during the day with a camera filter as opposed to filming at night, but I don't recall those specifics. In any case, the child labor violations really were just another nail in the "cares more about making a movie than about the welfare of two kids" coffin. He screamed and cursed and berated the pilot into flying too low because he wanted a better shot, and that ultimately is what caused the deaths.

Moacher
Oct 10, 2007

In a few moments my neighbor is going to exit this building's ground floor, out onto the sidewalk. According to my math, from this height, I can kill him by pissing on him.

HerzogZwo posted:

If you like wacky stuff, High-Rise is a good bet. Added a few weeks ago to Netflix. I am a big fan of JG Ballard and thought "there is no way anyone can pull this off", and they at least came close. Not for everyone though.

I saw High Rise at a local theater a few months ago. Enjoyed it, but it was definitely pretty weird. It reminded me of Snowpiercer a little bit, at least on a conceptual level.
I read the book afterwards, to see what the source material was like. I'd be interested to read an interview or something discussing why they decided to change certain plot points as they did.

fishtobaskets
Feb 22, 2007

It's not about butthole pleasures
Lipstick Apathy
The most damning piece of evidence out of everything I read was that Spielberg abruptly ended their friendship over it. I'm no film production expert, nor do I know those involved personally, but Spielberg is and does and he was like gently caress that poo poo and gently caress you. That reaction makes no sense if you buy the apologist version of events, namely that the whole thing was an unfortunate accident.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Well, someone presumably advanced that argument to the court and it didn't stick, so...


The mid 80s is probably the worst time in the US to make a pro union argument, to be fair.

Leper Residue
Sep 28, 2003

To where no dog has gone before.
I was kind of excited about Supergirl getting on Netflix cause I like comic books and stories about strong women but I couldn't even make it through the first episode, it's so bad. And apparently it just gets worse, ugh.

I had hopes cause Arrow is really cool and Flash is stupid but at least fun with likeable characters.

edit: holy poo poo Flashpoint Paradox is loving dark, wtf. Like holy poo poo how is this rated pg 13?

Leper Residue fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Sep 11, 2016

Field Mousepad
Mar 21, 2010
BAE
That's another thing I like about Daredevil, all of the women in it are secondary characters but they kick rear end and have their poo poo together.

Rad Valtar
May 31, 2011

Someday coach Im going to throw for 6 TDs in the Super Bowl.

Sit your ass down Steve.
When is this Disney Netflix deal suppose to start and I'm hoping it includes everything.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Rad Valtar posted:

When is this Disney Netflix deal suppose to start and I'm hoping it includes everything.

End of the month I think since Zootopia pops up then.

Rad Valtar
May 31, 2011

Someday coach Im going to throw for 6 TDs in the Super Bowl.

Sit your ass down Steve.

computer parts posted:

End of the month I think since Zootopia pops up then.

I went searching and apparently there was some misunderstanding with the deal and it doesn't include any backlog only releases from this point on.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Rad Valtar posted:

I went searching and apparently there was some misunderstanding with the deal and it doesn't include any backlog only releases from this point on.

The gently caress is the point of that?

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

The gently caress is the point of that?

Well, they have the precious "Disney Vault" to consider.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Who's still buying 90 dollar VHS tapes?

Short Penguin
Jun 1, 2010

Ohvee posted:

Galavant is on netflix now. I never had a chance to watch the second season but the first was so much better than I could have ever expected.

I went through both seasons in two days. I *love* this show.

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wa27
Jan 15, 2007

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

The gently caress is the point of that?

If I had to guess, Star Wars.

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