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I raved about it in the PYF thread a bit and yeah, Galavant is really goddamn good.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 05:41 |
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NESguerilla posted:I know the rough story of the incident but can someone explain to me how it was John Landis' fault? At least one(by some accounts more than one) of the professionals who were paid to coordinate the stunts approached Landis that day about the pyro being too close to the helicopter. He laughed them off and made a joke about it.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 13:59 |
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Landis also repeatedly told the pilot to fly lower, which caused the pyrotechnics to damage the tail rotor. This is after he hired the children using petty cash to avoid paperwork that would document that he was breaking child labor laws. Pretty much everything Landis did contributed to the tragedy, and he should have been found guilty.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 14:16 |
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He was acquitted because they couldn't prove definitively that the thing crashed due to the pyro being too close, but most people agree that's what happened. It wasn't PROVEN TO BE A 100% FLUKE ACCIDENT like Max Landis says, there just wasn't enough definitive evidence to convict.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 14:22 |
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Twilight Zone was an inside job.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 14:28 |
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Landis didn't get found guilty because Hollywood is incestuous and he was punished with a lackluster career change instead of hard time. Besides that, apparently his wife, who did costumes for his productions, is known for racism on the set, with his knowledge, and he didn't intervene. Eddie Murphy, most notably, has said stuff in this vein against him. Not that he's the best source, though.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 15:46 |
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The funniest thing about that Max Landis rant? Last time I looked on Wikipedia, it was called the "Twilight Zone Incident," contrary to his beliefs.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 15:53 |
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I've heard him speak on a couple podcasts here and there and he sounds like an utterly exhausting person to be around.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 17:57 |
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:The funniest thing about that Max Landis rant? I mean the two are probably related
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 18:01 |
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Season 2 of Narcos is up and still rules
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 20:20 |
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Moacher posted:The Get Down is outstanding and so much fun (does it have its own thread yet?) I finally got around to making one since I really liked the show and no one else seemed to talk about it: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3789424
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 15:28 |
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So I liked The Invitation and They Look Like People and want more of that kind of creeping paranoia that isn't loving obvious. Recommendations?
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 19:47 |
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:So I liked The Invitation and They Look Like People and want more of that kind of creeping paranoia that isn't loving obvious. Recommendations? Entrance. I don't know where you'd rent it nowadays, Youtube maybe?
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 19:52 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Entrance. I don't know where you'd rent it nowadays, Youtube maybe? Thanks! I'll look around Oh and my friend recommended 13 cameras which was just... No
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 20:07 |
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If you like wacky stuff, High-Rise is a good bet. Added a few weeks ago to Netflix. I am a big fan of JG Ballard and thought "there is no way anyone can pull this off", and they at least came close. Not for everyone though.
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 21:04 |
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tetrapyloctomy posted:Landis also repeatedly told the pilot to fly lower, which caused the pyrotechnics to damage the tail rotor. This is after he hired the children using petty cash to avoid paperwork that would document that he was breaking child labor laws. Pretty much everything Landis did contributed to the tragedy, and he should have been found guilty. Can someone please explain to me how violating child labor laws contributed? Sad to say, but even if things had been completely above-board the real core problem was that Landis had no idea how dangerous the stunt actually was and would have endangered somebody else's kids. They just would have been legally employed at the time.
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 21:06 |
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Violating child labor laws at minimum makes him legally culpable for the consequences.
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 21:08 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Violating child labor laws at minimum makes him legally culpable for the consequences. Again, I'm trying to establish how violating child labor laws makes a chopper blade cut your head off. That's literally the insinuation above - that Landis paying those kids under the table somehow contributed to their decapitation by a crashing helicopter. At some point he was going to film that scene, not know what the gently caress he was doing, not listen to his stunt coordinator, and the accident was going to occur, whether or not the kids were paid under the table. Right?
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 21:13 |
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Nah, that's a separate issue. Landis contributed by being careless. It wasn't just one irresponsible decision, even if only one in particular caused the deaths. It took several to set this in motion. The point is that it was entirely avoidable and not just some "freak accident".
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 21:22 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Nah, that's a separate issue. Landis contributed by being careless. It wasn't just one irresponsible decision, even if only one in particular caused the deaths. It took several to set this in motion. The point is that it was entirely avoidable and not just some "freak accident". I agree absolutely. Listen to your specialists.
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 21:23 |
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Also, while you're right about the insinuation, remember this started from Max Landis trying to play the victim. Ironically, calling it the "Twilight Zone Incident" depersonalizes and softens what happened to avoid attributing it to something other than tragic fate.
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 21:26 |
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Wasn't John Landis doing it to specifically avoid union regulations for child actors? And has anyone read Outrageous Conduct, the book about the "Twilight Zone Case"?
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 21:30 |
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X-Ray Pecs posted:Wasn't John Landis doing it to specifically avoid union regulations for child actors? And has anyone read Outrageous Conduct, the book about the "Twilight Zone Case"? Sure, right, but again this comes down to: would union regulation have saved these kids lives? Or would it just have resulted in shorter shooting days so that they were less tired when they participated in the dangerous stunt that got their heads cut off? I don't honestly know.
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 21:49 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Sure, right, but again this comes down to: would union regulation have saved these kids lives? Or would it just have resulted in shorter shooting days so that they were less tired when they participated in the dangerous stunt that got their heads cut off? I don't honestly know. Union regulation probably would have led to stricter standards and more oversight, so probably.
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 21:50 |
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X-Ray Pecs posted:Union regulation probably would have led to stricter standards and more oversight, so probably. Well, someone presumably advanced that argument to the court and it didn't stick, so...
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 21:54 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Sure, right, but again this comes down to: would union regulation have saved these kids lives? Or would it just have resulted in shorter shooting days so that they were less tired when they participated in the dangerous stunt that got their heads cut off? I don't honestly know. The scene wouldn't have been shot that night under those conditions. With a rested crew and maybe a less stressed or rushed Landis, perhaps the stunt would have been performed differently. He was pushy and everyone was tired--tired as in sleepy and tired of putting up with his cokehead bullshit. gently caress Landis and his rear end in a top hat son.
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 21:56 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Can someone please explain to me how violating child labor laws contributed? Sad to say, but even if things had been completely above-board the real core problem was that Landis had no idea how dangerous the stunt actually was and would have endangered somebody else's kids. They just would have been legally employed at the time.
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 21:59 |
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HerzogZwo posted:If you like wacky stuff, High-Rise is a good bet. Added a few weeks ago to Netflix. I am a big fan of JG Ballard and thought "there is no way anyone can pull this off", and they at least came close. Not for everyone though. I saw High Rise at a local theater a few months ago. Enjoyed it, but it was definitely pretty weird. It reminded me of Snowpiercer a little bit, at least on a conceptual level. I read the book afterwards, to see what the source material was like. I'd be interested to read an interview or something discussing why they decided to change certain plot points as they did.
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 22:16 |
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The most damning piece of evidence out of everything I read was that Spielberg abruptly ended their friendship over it. I'm no film production expert, nor do I know those involved personally, but Spielberg is and does and he was like gently caress that poo poo and gently caress you. That reaction makes no sense if you buy the apologist version of events, namely that the whole thing was an unfortunate accident.
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 23:01 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Well, someone presumably advanced that argument to the court and it didn't stick, so... The mid 80s is probably the worst time in the US to make a pro union argument, to be fair.
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# ? Sep 10, 2016 00:09 |
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I was kind of excited about Supergirl getting on Netflix cause I like comic books and stories about strong women but I couldn't even make it through the first episode, it's so bad. And apparently it just gets worse, ugh. I had hopes cause Arrow is really cool and Flash is stupid but at least fun with likeable characters. edit: holy poo poo Flashpoint Paradox is loving dark, wtf. Like holy poo poo how is this rated pg 13? Leper Residue fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Sep 11, 2016 |
# ? Sep 11, 2016 06:50 |
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That's another thing I like about Daredevil, all of the women in it are secondary characters but they kick rear end and have their poo poo together.
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# ? Sep 11, 2016 07:53 |
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When is this Disney Netflix deal suppose to start and I'm hoping it includes everything.
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# ? Sep 11, 2016 13:15 |
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Rad Valtar posted:When is this Disney Netflix deal suppose to start and I'm hoping it includes everything. End of the month I think since Zootopia pops up then.
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# ? Sep 11, 2016 14:48 |
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computer parts posted:End of the month I think since Zootopia pops up then. I went searching and apparently there was some misunderstanding with the deal and it doesn't include any backlog only releases from this point on.
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# ? Sep 11, 2016 14:59 |
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Rad Valtar posted:I went searching and apparently there was some misunderstanding with the deal and it doesn't include any backlog only releases from this point on. The gently caress is the point of that?
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# ? Sep 11, 2016 15:11 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The gently caress is the point of that? Well, they have the precious "Disney Vault" to consider.
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# ? Sep 11, 2016 15:54 |
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Who's still buying 90 dollar VHS tapes?
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# ? Sep 11, 2016 16:03 |
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Ohvee posted:Galavant is on netflix now. I never had a chance to watch the second season but the first was so much better than I could have ever expected. I went through both seasons in two days. I *love* this show.
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# ? Sep 11, 2016 16:16 |
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The gently caress is the point of that? If I had to guess, Star Wars.
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# ? Sep 11, 2016 16:43 |