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Cerebral Bore posted:The idea that black people should just have to meekly accept being hassled by the cops for no reason other than that a bunch of dipshits are suspicious of all black people is pretty racist, actually. seuraavan kerran kun kytät pysäyttää mun auton ja haluaa nähdä mun ajokortin, niin alan huutamaan että ne on rasisteja
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SnowblindFatal posted:Yeah but that's not what I was talking about. It's literally what you're talking about. How the gently caress do you think that ulkomaalaisvalvonta works? Hogge Wild posted:seuraavan kerran kun kytät pysäyttää mun auton ja haluaa nähdä mun ajokortin, niin alan huutamaan että ne on rasisteja En epäile.
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Sep 10, 2016 15:46
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Cerebral Bore posted:It's literally what you're talking about. How the gently caress do you think that ulkomaalaisvalvonta works? Cerebral Bore posted:The idea that black people should just have to meekly accept being hassled by the cops for no reason other than that a bunch of dipshits are suspicious of all black people is pretty racist, actually. That's what you said, and if, for example, the cops are looking for people who have gone underground after being told to go back to where they came from, then I would think that it is idiotic to not focus the search on non-white people. This is different from being on a regular patrol and stopping every foreign-looking person just because. Now whether this kind of escapee search is effective at all is a different discussion, but that's besides the point in my opinion. Combining different debates into one just muddies issues.
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SnowblindFatal posted:Has it already gotten to the point where black people are more likely to be Finland-born than white people? I'd be amazed if this was the case, but given hard enough evidence, I'd be willing to believe it. No chance of that, but then there's plenty of foreign born black people who either have citizenship or permit of residency. Then anyway I presume that only a fraction of people staying here illegally are black so to racially profile only black people is both ineffective AND discriminatory and helps making all black people feel uneasy when they see cops. It'd be like if cops were fighting street prostitution by checking the papers of every woman who goes out dressed sluttily on a Friday night. Now if ulkomaalaispoliisi is looking for a specific person and they see someone who fits the description then that's a different matter.
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SnowblindFatal posted:That's what you said, and if, for example, the cops are looking for people who have gone underground after being told to go back to where they came from, then I would think that it is idiotic to not focus the search on non-white people. This is different from being on a regular patrol and stopping every foreign-looking person just because. So in other words, as long as the government has decided to send the cops on some dumbass witch hunt in order to appease some dipshits, black people should indeed just have to meekly accept being hassled by the cops for no reason? Because this is literally what happens.
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Cerebral Bore posted:So in other words, as long as the government has decided to send the cops on some dumbass witch hunt in order to appease some dipshits, black people should indeed just have to meekly accept being hassled by the cops for no reason? Because this is literally what happens. joo, poliisien ei pitäisi etsiä rikollisia
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Sep 10, 2016 16:02
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Cerebral Bore posted:So in other words, as long as the government has decided to send the cops on some dumbass witch hunt in order to appease some dipshits, black people should indeed just have to meekly accept being hassled by the cops for no reason? Because this is literally what happens. Well considering that the alternative for the policemen tasked for this gig is to just sip coffee in a local ABC, I would say that yes, they are barking at the wrong tree and should instead be throwing molotovs into eduskuntatalo and Paslian poliisitalo. Otherwise you're just yelling at the level 1 tech support guy who didn't have a chance of successfully doing his job in the first place.
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Sep 10, 2016 16:04
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Hogge Wild posted:joo, poliisien ei pitäisi etsiä rikollisia 
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From the looks of things, cops should start arresting each other at random and it might be more likely to find actual criminals.
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SnowblindFatal posted:Well considering that the alternative for the policemen tasked for this gig is to just sip coffee in a local ABC, I would say that yes, they are barking at the wrong tree and should instead be throwing molotovs into eduskuntatalo and Paslian poliisitalo. None of what you say here makes a policy that results in people who don't pass the paper bag test being hassled for no reason less racist, though. Maybe it's a bad policy and should be changed?
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I'm sorry but I'm kind of lost here. Am I being strawmanned right now?
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Being asked for ID = Witchhunt and being hassled. Cerebral Bore's views well grounded in reality again. Of course the idea that the police can somehow do ulkomaalaisvalvonta without ethnic profiling is almost as lol. But if you're just asking people for ID, what the hell is the problem?
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Sep 10, 2016 20:08
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Geriatric Pirate posted:Being asked for ID = Witchhunt and being hassled. Cerebral Bore's views well grounded in reality again. ongelma on se että jos poliisi kysyy papereita, kyseessä on aina joka tapauksessa rasismi
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It's kinda funny that we're sitting here in the year twenty-loving-sixteen and people are unironically going "well obviously the police need to racially profile and specifically go after minorities to do their jobs" only to complain about that they get called racist in the very next breath.
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Sep 10, 2016 20:56
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Hogge Wild posted:ongelma on se että jos poliisi kysyy papereita, kyseessä on aina joka tapauksessa rasismi No it's ok if they harass everyone equally. The cops should have enforcement campaigns in which they build a roadblock across Mannerheimintie and stop all commuters with a friendly "papers please"
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I unironically want cops to start IDing everybody during their homeland security razzias. The backlash from the angry whitey would be furious and amazing.
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Cerebral Bore posted:It's kinda funny that we're sitting here in the year twenty-loving-sixteen and people are unironically going "well obviously the police need to racially profile and specifically go after minorities to do their jobs" only to complain about that they get called racist in the very next breath. Ugh yeah it's so problematic that in current year people don't realize what shitlords the police are when they harass and stalk minorities by occasionally (rarely) asking for id
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Sep 10, 2016 21:13
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Mommy-Barbarian is full of poo poo at least. The police spat on her, really? That might be something that's common in her native culture, but I've never ever heard of it happening around here. She should've come up with a better story for pity points.
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Sep 10, 2016 22:14
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In not immigrant-related finnchat, I got to take a look at the upcoming article by Long Play about "kuntouttava työtoiminta." Jesus loving christ. How would you feel working at an industrial laundry for 9 euros a day?
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Sep 10, 2016 23:20
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I always start a fist fight if the police try to accost me no matter the reason. Then I tell everyone I was oppressed and hopefully get on the news and the television.
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Sep 10, 2016 23:45
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Kemper Boyd posted:In not immigrant-related finnchat, I got to take a look at the upcoming article by Long Play about "kuntouttava työtoiminta." Jesus loving christ. Yeah the immigration discussion is a nice distraction from the things that actually matter. Our employment policies aren't based in any sort of reality. The upcoming interview circus they're threatening of is just icing on the shitcake.
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Sep 10, 2016 23:51
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Osallistava sosiaaliturva, at my best guess, is intended to make being unemployed even more miserable and shameful. This lets Kok minded people feel morally superior and punishes elämänantapaintiaanis who would spend all their time smoking weed without these obligations.
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A choice outtake from the article:quote:VIIME MARRASKUUSSA Vantaan apulaiskaupunginjohtaja Niinistö
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lmao fair play
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Sep 11, 2016 12:47
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DarkCrawler posted:All I am doing is describing what you are doing. You are the only one interested in having any sort of an narrative or talking about them in the first place. Here is another thing based on what you are doing too: After like 100+ posts of impotent rage on several separate occasions - again all occasions started by you - you don't get to claim "low effort" either, you obsessive weirdo. all you're doing is coming up with novel bullshit excuses why you're totally not grasping at straws. also you don't get to claim what i get to claim
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Nauta posted:all you're doing is coming up with novel bullshit excuses why you're totally not grasping at straws. also you don't get to claim what i get to claim Actual things that have happened and that anyone can see simply by following your post history aren't "bullshit excuses". Can't erase them by being really mad about it. You are the only one constantly starting this poo poo. A fact that is not going anywhere.
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DarkCrawler posted:Actual things that have happened and that anyone can see simply by following your post history aren't "bullshit excuses". Can't erase them by being really mad about it. You are the only one constantly starting this poo poo. A fact that is not going anywhere. Nauta posted:you could have just typed "no u" in stead you know
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DarkCrawler posted:Those sound like words that won't keep you making my point, though? thanks again, by the way!
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Fennovoima's "liaison officer" talks to Säteilyturvakeskus, Finland's center for radiation safety, and subsequently gets himself fired by the board. Murky enough so far, but then they try and lie about it.
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mites se putinin ydinvoimalahanke suomessa etenee, en ole vähään aikaan seurannut
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Hogge Wild posted:mites se putinin ydinvoimalahanke suomessa etenee, en ole vähään aikaan seurannut I bet 5 bux on it opening maybe 2021
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Hogge Wild posted:mites se putinin ydinvoimalahanke suomessa etenee, en ole vähään aikaan seurannut lievästi paremmin kuin arevan ikuisuusprojekti
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You know, I was just thinking the other day. For some hosed up reason, none of the leftist parties support nuclear power. This leaves all nuclear power projects in the hands of our most corrupt parties. Then we have these kinds of complete disasters. Not saying that there's a direct causality, but there might be!
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Double Bill posted:Mommy-Barbarian is full of poo poo at least. The police spat on her, really? That might be something that's common in her native culture, but I've never ever heard of it happening around here.
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http://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/a1473645631773 aaand get ready for the great shitstorm of our age
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Double Bill posted:http://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/a1473645631773 Step out of the echo chamber.
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postaas pari sulkatyöohjetta
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