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blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Germstore posted:

I think they've also said something about the headphone jack not supporting "HD Audio" (96khz/24 bit) which is some real bullshit.

By that logic nothing supports "HD Audio" since it had to go analog somewhere.

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happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
This is what you get for not buying the iWatch and iPen!

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

The stylus thing is funny because you have a pretty clear statements from Jobs regarding it and yet you had people doing mental gymnastics to explain what Jobs really meant

MiracleWhale
Jun 30, 2015


once jobs expressed a wrong opinion on the stylus issue it was clear he would have to be eliminated

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

"Jobs just hated how those other guys implemented the stylus he wasn't against the concept!"

jenny jones fan
Dec 24, 2007
Post-Jobs Apple:

MiracleWhale
Jun 30, 2015


cuck cuck im gay posted:

Post-Jobs Apple:



design before all

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012

cuck cuck im gay posted:

Post-Jobs Apple:



i came

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

cuck cuck im gay posted:

Post-Jobs Apple:



Fuckhead starter pack

A Stupid Baby
Dec 31, 2002

lip up fatty

cuck cuck im gay posted:

Post-Jobs Apple:



this seems vaguely pornographic

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

cuck cuck im gay posted:

Post-Jobs Apple:



oh christ why is the charging port on the only surface of the mouse that makes it totally unusable while charging

why did they do this

Tricky D
Apr 1, 2005

I love um!

Monkey Fracas posted:

oh christ why is the charging port on the only surface of the mouse that makes it totally unusable while charging

why did they do this

a charging port on any other surface would be visible during normal operation -> not sleek

MiracleWhale
Jun 30, 2015


Monkey Fracas posted:

oh christ why is the charging port on the only surface of the mouse that makes it totally unusable while charging

why did they do this

<roll eyes> your holdig it wrong

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

A Stupid Baby posted:

this seems vaguely pornographic

awkward and needlessly cumbersome charging --> the leather and chains S&M of the tech world

the safe word is "Firewire"

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Monkey Fracas posted:

oh christ why is the charging port on the only surface of the mouse that makes it totally unusable while charging

why did they do this

it used to be on the front of the mouse but then people would use it while it was plugged in and they wanted it to be wireless all the time

thats the actual for real reason, they said so

MiracleWhale
Jun 30, 2015


corn in the bible posted:

it used to be on the front of the mouse but then people would use it while it was plugged in and they wanted it to be wireless all the time

thats the actual for real reason, they said so

MiracleWhale posted:

<roll eyes> your holdig it wrong

oops I meant that as a joke not a serious post

Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
I do have to admit also I had never used a macbook before this year somehow and I tried to use my sister's to do some quick work online and I was just infuriated by the virtual buttons on the touchpad, I kept accidentally triggering them and it made me really sad to see that now PC manufacturers are using this style of design.

Also this is something I'm sure I would get used to but I could never guess which shortcuts were gonna be on the options button and which were gonna be on the control or apple button or whatever the other shortcut button is. It didn't seem like an easy conversion from alt->options and control->control.

Edit: Looking at a picture again, I remember what it was now, it was that I kept thinking "control" would do what control normally does and options was alt, and I had no idea what command was but command meant control it looks like.

Stefan Prodan fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Sep 12, 2016

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

corn in the bible posted:

it used to be on the front of the mouse but then people would use it while it was plugged in and they wanted it to be wireless all the time

thats the actual for real reason, they said so

Apple would rather sabotage their product than allow you to use it in a way that is even slightly contradictory to their ~~~vision~~~

whether that vision is a mouse being wireless 100% of the time it is in use or Apple being paid by accessory makers to license their data port patent

lorn Wayne posted:

This is all a big dumb joke right? like apple is literally testing the waters to see how many retards come out of the woodwork and defend them for this or something?

We saw this during the Dem primary too, being exposed to people on the Internet who disagree with you on something trivial can make you say some loving crazy poo poo and mean it 100%

Justin Tyme
Feb 22, 2011


corn in the bible posted:

it used to be on the front of the mouse but then people would use it while it was plugged in and they wanted it to be wireless all the time

thats the actual for real reason, they said so

starting to think Apple is actually just poo poo at design

like, sure putting a back button on the faceplate of your phone isn't sleek, but it makes it a hell of a lot more utilitarian

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
if an apple design appears to be bad it is actually just misunderstood and you dont yet know that it is what you want :smuggo:

The Whole Internet
May 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

Berious posted:

Good phones with good features like removable batteries are getting increasingly difficult to find.

Probably gonna have my S5 for a decade-and-a-half just like the phone before it, because every new phone seems to be poo poo now.

I can just buy new batteries and larger sd cards forever. Why would I ever need a new phone?

MiracleWhale
Jun 30, 2015


The Whole Internet posted:

Probably gonna have my S5 for a decade-and-a-half just like the phone before it, because every new phone seems to be poo poo now.

I can just buy new batteries and larger sd cards forever. Why would I ever need a new phone?

<clips s5 to belt on cargo pants>

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

The USB port will die or it will just stop turning on within like three years.

It was only eighteen months before the USB on my Nexus 5 needed to be replaced. A few months after that, the power button got finicky, and soon after the phone restarted a few times and never powered back on. The same thing happened to my S2.

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

radiatinglines posted:

The USB port will die or it will just stop turning on within like three years.

It was only eighteen months before the USB on my Nexus 5 needed to be replaced. A few months after that, the power button got finicky, and soon after the phone restarted a few times and never powered back on. The same thing happened to my S2.

The S5 has wireless charging so screw that USB port

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
we're all tired of the apple phones


sounds like it's time for

now stop me if you've heard this before


a banana-style phone!

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

It grows in bunches

I've got my hunches

It's the best! Beats the rest!

cellular modular interactive-odular

The Whole Internet
May 26, 2010

by FactsAreUseless

punk rebel ecks posted:

Are digital jacks superior to analog jacks? Or is it a bunch of bullshit?

It's a bunch of bullshit. The audio that the headphones play will be analog, at the end of the day. So whether it gets converted in the phone, or in a dongle hanging off the phone, or in the headphones themselves, it's gonna be the same drat thing at the end.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
unless you're listening to electronic music, which is entirely digital

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

corn in the bible posted:

it used to be on the front of the mouse but then people would use it while it was plugged in and they wanted it to be wireless all the time

thats the actual for real reason, they said so

Pretty sure that's just a :downs: front for "so you have to give us money for two of them".

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time

loquacius posted:

It grows in bunches

I've got my hunches

It's the best! Beats the rest!

cellular modular interactive-odular

ok, thanks, that'll be in my head for the next two or three weeks.

Edgar Allan Pwned
Apr 4, 2011

Quoth the Raven "I love the power glove. It's so bad..."
I've had a free lovely windows phone for a year. I repair cell phones as a job.

I'm going to buy a 400$ phone this week and hope it will last 2 years. It has a headphone jack. It is not apple

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.
I didn't know they said the headphone jack couldn't handle "HD" audio. Is that real? Did they really say that?

Because a headphone jack is analog. It's just metal. It can handle infinite bandwidth, or at least right up until it's moving so many electrons that it physically melts from the heat, which thanks to the kinds of signals it transfers it is incapable of doing that. The connector has literally nothing to do with bandwidth or the "HDness" of a system. It is a physical extension of the headphone wires, which even the new wireless earbuds have, they're just really short and only exist inside the earbuds themselves, but they still have them. Literally every speaker in existence has metal cables or wire that connect it to the thing providing the electricity that moves the speakers. All the bandwidth processing and stuff happens in the digital to analog converters, which are entirely separate things.

Basically I'm either gullible and missed the joke or Apple is outright lying, which would be shocking for a large corporation to do I know.

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

The Whole Internet posted:

It's a bunch of bullshit. The audio that the headphones play will be analog, at the end of the day. So whether it gets converted in the phone, or in a dongle hanging off the phone, or in the headphones themselves, it's gonna be the same drat thing at the end.

I thought this too but I modded my SNES to have optical audio output (spdif) and it sounds A LOT better. Why would that be the case?

MiracleWhale
Jun 30, 2015


Uncle at Nintendo posted:

I thought this too but I modded my SNES to have optical audio output (spdif) and it sounds A LOT better. Why would that be the case?

your holding it wrong

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time

GreatGreen posted:

I didn't know they said the headphone jack couldn't handle "HD" audio. Is that real? Did they really say that?

Because a headphone jack is analog. It's just metal. It can handle infinite bandwidth, or at least right up until it's moving so many electrons that it physically melts from the heat, which thanks to the kinds of signals it transfers it is incapable of doing that. The connector has literally nothing to do with bandwidth or the "HDness" of a system. It is a physical extension of the headphone wires, which even the new wireless earbuds have, they're just really short and only exist inside the earbuds themselves, but they still have them. Literally every speaker in existence has metal cables or wire that connect it to the thing providing the electricity that moves the speakers. All the bandwidth processing and stuff happens in the digital to analog converters, which are entirely separate things.

Basically I'm either gullible and missed the joke or Apple is outright lying, which would be shocking for a large corporation to do I know.

I heard it second hand from linustechtips so it could be wrong. I think they were talking about the DAC and ignoring the fact they could just upgrade the DAC.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

loquacius posted:

Apple would rather sabotage their product than allow you to use it in a way that is even slightly contradictory to their ~~~vision~~~

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

WhyteRyce posted:

"Jobs just hated how those other guys implemented the stylus he wasn't against the concept!"

Actually, it's a PENCIL, not a stylus

(This is their answer to that Steve Jobs quote)

Also Android users seem to care much more about this than iPhone users

WhyteRyce
Dec 30, 2001

Don Tacorleone posted:


Also Android users seem to care much more about this than iPhone users

It's not a phone or Android thing, it's really not much more different than people that follow Star Citizen, the xbox shark tank, or doobie's dog house. Hell, I used to morbidly track OnePlus and all their bad decisions

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
grover handheld

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Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



I have a wireless apple mouse at work

it's really nice to use but the charge port being on the bottom is the stupidest loving thing
I actually have a second poo poo cheap mouse that I use for an hour or so when the battery runs out

I had a wireless apple keyboard too but I got IT to give me a real one because the dumb thing loses connection all the time and has no numpad lol

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