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spog posted:Somebody else suggested that all would have been perfectly fine until that guy reached up and grabbed the cable and pulled it tight, whihc he wasn't supposed to do holy poo poo, you're right, but I still don't understand what the plan was; they couldn't have landed without the cable hitting the rotor.
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Theophany posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5aMT9MBfZI Well that's going straight onto the list of "Sounds I hope I never hear in real life"
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 17:08 |
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blarzgh posted:I just can't get over how 20 loving people were just completely oblivious about that cable. Its crushing my brain. Is that the dude right under the wreckage?
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 17:13 |
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HEY NONG MAN posted:Is that the dude right under the wreckage? I think he tugs on the cable, sees the pop in the rotor, starts running to the left, but then turns and dives away, and to the right. You can see him get up off the ground behind the wreck; he's wearing a yellow thing on his right shoulder that was hidden at first.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 17:23 |
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blarzgh posted:I think he tugs on the cable, sees the pop in the rotor, starts running to the left, but then turns and dives away, and to the right. You can see him get up off the ground behind the wreck; he's wearing a yellow thing on his right shoulder that was hidden at first. Didn't notice him at all the first few times I watched- probably due to his lack of high-viz and PPE
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 17:29 |
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Volcott posted:Calmly walking the other way has probably saved a bunch of people from gruesome deaths over the course of human history. You can't let whatever your escaping know you're on to it. The other option is to calmly walk TOWARDS the danger to show it who's boss. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0YGCHarFhc&t=31s
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 18:14 |
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A classmate of mine from high-school was killed due to a picker hitting an overhead transmission power line while they were logging. The tires on the truck caught on fire as it was winter and the snow was deep enough to make a circuit. He saw the fire and had no idea what the problem was. He grabbed the fire extinguisher on the side of the truck and was dead instantaneously. The other loggers tried CPR until an ambulance showed up, but he was DRT. They guys that attempted CPR are lucky they didn't die themselves.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 18:22 |
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mostlygray posted:A classmate of mine from high-school was killed due to a picker hitting an overhead transmission power line while they were logging. The tires on the truck caught on fire as it was winter and the snow was deep enough to make a circuit. He saw the fire and had no idea what the problem was. He grabbed the fire extinguisher on the side of the truck and was dead instantaneously. The other loggers tried CPR until an ambulance showed up, but he was DRT. At that point its like "wtf magic is going on???! NO DONT TOUCH HIM! He may still have residual magic on him and you could get it on yourself too if you touch him!"
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 18:26 |
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spog posted:Somebody else suggested that all would have been perfectly fine until that guy reached up and grabbed the cable and pulled it tight, whihc he wasn't supposed to do I didn't even see that guy, what the actual gently caress
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 18:30 |
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The craziest thing is how the cameraman keeps it all perfectly in frame.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 18:46 |
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Volcott posted:Calmly walking the other way has probably saved a bunch of people from gruesome deaths over the course of human history.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 18:59 |
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Roger Craig posted:Isn't a big cloud of flour really flammable? FLOUR AND GRAAAAAAIIIINNN!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D4ct0ia9IQ
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 19:18 |
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Robot Lincoln posted:The craziest thing is how the cameraman keeps it all perfectly in frame. You know the cameraman is the guy with a white hardhat running across frame at the moment of impact, and the camera's being held on a tripod, right?
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 19:30 |
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Nfcknblvbl posted:You know the cameraman is the guy with a white hardhat running across frame at the moment of impact, and the camera's being held on a tripod, right? Yes??? You know we aren't viewing this event through some kind of magical interdimensional portal and that there was in fact a second person filming there, right?
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 19:43 |
SelenicMartian posted:Except for the cameraman who's running just before the cable gets caught by the rotor. He was actually running to get a better angle. That's his shakier footage that the clip cuts to right as the helicopter hits. He's also one of the first climbing into the wreckage for a rescue! If you watch in slow motion, you can see how their restraints just barely kept the pilot from being whipped to the ground. He comes almost completely out of the helicopter during the spin.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 20:24 |
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Robot Lincoln posted:Yes??? You know we aren't viewing this event through some kind of magical interdimensional portal and that there was in fact a second person filming there, right? Still one guy controlling both cameras, but yeah he had some balls stopping to get a second angle.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 21:03 |
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Must be an instinct ingrained in film school. I wonder how many photographers' last words have been "This is gonna be a great shot!"?
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 21:11 |
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Good camera people in war zones, disaster situations, and reality TV are professionals on a level that I aspire to.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 21:42 |
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That's the preliminary report so it's pretty much all the guys fault. I remember this being on the news a while ago, the guy in the pilot seat blacked out from the force too but was otherwise uninjured.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 22:00 |
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Well that's going straight onto the list of "Sounds I hope I never hear in real life" Kinda sounded like a bass-er version of the pistol from Goldeneye.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 22:10 |
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Spiteski posted:That's the preliminary report so it's pretty much all the guys fault. I remember this being on the news a while ago, the guy in the pilot seat blacked out from the force too but was otherwise uninjured. The final report is also linked and is quite short: quote:Abstract I guess the minutes saved by not climbing the tower and detaching the line there was worth it.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 22:10 |
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quote:Contributing Factors Wouldn't this have been the rigging supervisor's responsibility? So first the dude fucks up on attaching the line, and then he fucks up again trying to remove it.
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# ? Sep 12, 2016 22:30 |
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 00:52 |
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Slanderer posted:Wouldn't this have been the rigging supervisor's responsibility? So first the dude fucks up on attaching the line, and then he fucks up again trying to remove it. What a moron. I like that for the explanatory graphic they gave him the helmet and safety vest he was probably supposed to be wearing.
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 01:02 |
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Robot Lincoln posted:Must be an instinct ingrained in film school. I wonder how many photographers' last words have been "This is gonna be a great shot!"? You kinda just forget what's happening isn't just an event on a stage for you to capture; the only thing dividing you from the action is a camera. This is how I fell into a flood-swollen creek when the bank washed out from under me.
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 06:04 |
I love how the entire helicopter just kinda disassembles in midair at the first shock.
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 06:10 |
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Robot Lincoln posted:Must be an instinct ingrained in film school. I wonder how many photographers' last words have been "This is gonna be a great shot!"? As I recall, director John Ford was wounded by shrapnel during the Battle of Midway because he had set up his camera near a large hanger, since he figured the Japanese would probably bomb it and wanted to get some good shots of it.
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 06:24 |
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There's a shot of the train in High Noon, when it's on its final approach to the station, which is taken from the tracks in front of it. I remember seeing a documentary about the film claiming that something went wrong when they were filming that, and the train just ran over and destroyed the camera, but they were able to recover the film. There were two people standing with the camera, and they all got away, but it was the one who was not actually filming who started to say, "I think it's not stopping," and the one who was that kept saying "it's fine, this is a great shot." e: There's some great OSHA stories from those old films. A handful of people died filming the avalanche scene in Lost Horizon, achieved using the amazing practical effect of triggering a real loving avalanche, jesus christ. Doc Hawkins fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Sep 13, 2016 |
# ? Sep 13, 2016 09:31 |
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Facebook Aunt posted:What a moron. There's like 0 tolerance on the length of that cable. They'd probably be hosed even if he hadn't pulled on it. The only way the would have been able to get the cable off safely would have been to climb the tower.
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 09:48 |
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Slanderer posted:Wouldn't this have been the rigging supervisor's responsibility? So first the dude fucks up on attaching the line, and then he fucks up again trying to remove it. You had one job. ONE JOB.
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 10:05 |
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Wasabi the J posted:You kinda just forget what's happening isn't just an event on a stage for you to capture; the only thing dividing you from the action is a camera. But enough on your documentary about your mom's heavy flow...
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 11:44 |
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Facebook Aunt posted:What a moron. This is what I don't get; what was the goddamn plan? Because... Rectus posted:There's like 0 tolerance on the length of that cable. They'd probably be hosed even if he hadn't pulled on it. The only way the would have been able to get the cable off safely would have been to climb the tower. Someone smarter than me please explain
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 15:01 |
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The idea was probably to have pull man pull it to the side once there was enough slack available, but he got over-excited.
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 15:06 |
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blarzgh posted:This is what I don't get; what was the goddamn plan? Because... The cable didn't release when it was supposed to so that guy tried to pull it loose
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 15:08 |
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blarzgh posted:This is what I don't get; what was the goddamn plan? Because... It was meant to release from the hook on the helicopter, but didn't due to improper rigging. He was hovering at low altitude either to drop the cable, or so that the people on the ground could check why it was stuck. The backup plan was to detach the other end of the cable, not to give it a yank.
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 15:13 |
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Doc Hawkins posted:There's a shot of the train in High Noon, when it's on its final approach to the station, which is taken from the tracks in front of it. I remember seeing a documentary about the film claiming that something went wrong when they were filming that, and the train just ran over and destroyed the camera, but they were able to recover the film. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32b9m7CeJfQ The blue flashes around 1:17 are from the avalanche destroying an electrical station. Also, this is not the OSHA avalanche video I was looking for, but it's certainly as OSHA as Russia can get. CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Sep 13, 2016 |
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Robot Lincoln posted:Must be an instinct ingrained in film school. I wonder how many photographers' last words have been "This is gonna be a great shot!"? http://imgur.com/yHNGdlE the fellow in the middle there is the photographer whose lens we're looking through, and the photo was snapped at the instant an artillery shell hit beside him and killed him. I assume he was holding the clicker for the shutter while setting up his picture.
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 15:35 |
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Rectus posted:There's like 0 tolerance on the length of that cable. The schematic is *probably* not drawn to scale.
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 15:41 |
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Phanatic posted:The schematic is *probably* not drawn to scale. They put the mast and cable lengths in there though. Even looking at the video, there is no way for them to reach and pull the cable by hand without clipping the rotors unless they hover/land the helicopter right next to the mast.
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 16:06 |
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CannonFodder posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32b9m7CeJfQ I would, 100% seriously, leave my home and move to the snow if someone offered me a job shooting cannons at mountains.
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# ? Sep 13, 2016 16:21 |