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Has there been any discussion about the templating on Fabricate using "Create ~ token" instead of "Put ~ token onto the battlefield"? Are they meant to be the same game action, just with less text?
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Entropic posted:It's perfect against Splinter Twin. it slows it down a turn but you can still kiki/twin up a billion dudes during the next end step.
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Devor posted:Has there been any discussion about the templating on Fabricate using "Create ~ token" instead of "Put ~ token onto the battlefield"? Are they meant to be the same game action, just with less text? no you actually have to go to a printer and have your token made without running afoul of slow play (Create is a shortcut for put tokens into the battlefield. They are exactly the same.)
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Sep 13, 2016 20:07
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The reason they don't have Loxodons and Rakshasas on Kaladesh is because WOTC correctly determined that they don't care if you, a non-Indian person are offended by the lack of Loxodons and Rakshasas.
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Sep 13, 2016 20:11
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Devor posted:Has there been any discussion about the templating on Fabricate using "Create ~ token" instead of "Put ~ token onto the battlefield"? Are they meant to be the same game action, just with less text? WotC will introduce their branded portable 3D printer that will be required for this mechanic.
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Sep 13, 2016 20:12
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Zoness posted:this guy knows that the japanese folklore set "failed" because it was a better simulacrum of japanese folklore than people wanted right Ah yes, Rakshasa, a known unresonant element that simply has no place in a magic set. Also brown people are out of the question, but blue people should be fine. Devor posted:Has there been any discussion about the templating on Fabricate using "Create ~ token" instead of "Put ~ token onto the battlefield"? Are they meant to be the same game action, just with less text? They're the same game action, but with new wording. Everything uses the Create templating from Kaladesh onward.
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Sep 13, 2016 20:13
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But what if you are an indian person who is offended by the lack of Cat Demons and Elephant Gods and generally Indian looking people...
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Sep 13, 2016 20:39
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Logicblade posted:But what if you are an indian person who is offended by the lack of Cat Demons and Elephant Gods and generally Indian looking people... gently caress you.
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Sep 13, 2016 20:53
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Logicblade posted:But what if you are an indian person who is offended by the lack of Cat Demons and Elephant Gods and generally Indian looking people... Would you be satisfied if the only Cat Demons and Elephant Gods are new cards printed only at the Masterwork rarity?
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Sep 13, 2016 21:01
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We're going to India, the exotic land of dwarves, elves, and white ladies with mens names.
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black potus posted:We're going to India, the exotic land of dwarves, elves, and white ladies with mens names. at least the blue people are accurate to depictions of gods
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Sep 13, 2016 21:07
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my favorite part of all this is that if they tried to accurately depict Indian culture and mythology a lot of people, probably some of whom are angry now, would say that it was insensitive to take a culture's rich traditions and figures of myth and story and turn them into monsters that punch each other, and that the sacred should not be made into a children's card game. I think wizards learned from Kiora Atua that flavor is ok, but flavor that strongly mimics real world mythology is very dangerous. Theros is fine because there's no Ancient Greeks around to complain. EDIT: note that I think the above criticism, i.e. shoving important cultural elements into Magic wherever they best fit is insensitive, is valid, and I think it's good that Kaladesh's Indian flavor is kind of a light touch
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Sep 13, 2016 21:23
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Um excuse me Gremlins have elephant trunks so
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Sep 13, 2016 21:25
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Theros is fine because there's no Ancient Greeks around to complain. This is something that is still bugging me after I saw the full set. It is supposed to take place in a plane similar to ancient Greece so someone would expect the artwork to be relevant. Well, it is but only to some extent. Browsing through the cards I noticed a lot of the images depicting Africans, NOT Greeks. Since when my country is in Africa?
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:my favorite part of all this is that if they tried to accurately depict Indian culture and mythology a lot of people, probably some of whom are angry now, would say that it was insensitive to take a culture's rich traditions and figures of myth and story and turn them into monsters that punch each other, and that the sacred should not be made into a children's card game. Yeah, gently caress those imaginary hypocrites You can take things from a culture and mythology without creating Vishnu 1U 2/2 etb: current player becomes enlightened
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Sep 13, 2016 21:29
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wouldn't vishnu be green or white and not blue sarasvati strikes me as a much more blue deity
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Sep 13, 2016 21:32
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They probably should make the humans on the India-inspired plane look like they're from India.
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Zoness posted:wouldn't vishnu be green or white and not blue In that he's depicted as literally physically blue
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Sep 13, 2016 21:35
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quote:A few years ago i was at pax, and they announced that they’d have FTV 20 for sale at cost. I camped out at 3am to try because lol, it’s magic and you’ll never get it at cost. I got in the hall and went as fast as i could and was like 14th in line for 10 possible copies. first seven or eight went, and a few others left the line till there were two more and a few dudes ahead of me. a soldier came in and took his copy that somehow had been reserved for him as a person with a disability of some kind. apparently the last copy had also been earmarked for a person with a disability, but she hadn’t shown up yet and it had been four or five hours since show opened. dudes in front of me bailed and it was just me. Lady at the counter sighed, took the copy, and placed it into my hand. my other hand had my money out. She started to reach for the money and then a voice rang out and said “Thanks for waiting!” and the lady straight took the box back out of my hand and pivoted to give it to the other person. I stood there for a few minutes, just stunned like someone had clocked me or something. My hand was still in the shape of holding the box. uh, what
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quote:A few years ago i was at pax, and they announced that they’d have FTV 20 for sale at cost. I camped out at 3am to try because lol, it’s magic and you’ll never get it at cost. I got in the hall and went as fast as i could and was like 14th in line for 10 possible copies. first seven or eight went, and a few others left the line till there were two more and a few dudes ahead of me. a soldier came in and took his copy that somehow had been reserved for him as a person with a disability of some kind. apparently the last copy had also been earmarked for a person with a disability, but she hadn’t shown up yet and it had been four or five hours since show opened. dudes in front of me bailed and it was just me. Lady at the counter sighed, took the copy, and placed it into my hand. my other hand had my money out. She started to reach for the money and then a voice rang out and said “Thanks for waiting!” and the lady straight took the box back out of my hand and pivoted to give it to the other person. I stood there for a few minutes, just stunned like someone had clocked me or something. My hand was still in the shape of holding the box. "Man, disabled people get everything handed to them, even down to the best parking places!" -talinthas, probably.
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Sep 13, 2016 21:36
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Barry Shitpeas posted:uh, what quote:But how about these chandra goggles instead?” He talks about Chandra and his son being named Chandra.
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Sep 13, 2016 21:39
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:my favorite part of all this is that if they tried to accurately depict Indian culture and mythology a lot of people, probably some of whom are angry now, would say that it was insensitive to take a culture's rich traditions and figures of myth and story and turn them into monsters that punch each other, and that the sacred should not be made into a children's card game. IIRC they said more or less this at one of the PAX panels. It does make me curious what people were saying on Usenet about Jamuraa 20 years ago, though. Sit on my Jace fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Sep 13, 2016 |
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Sep 13, 2016 21:46
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Anil Dasharez0ne is a good user name, congrats.
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Sep 13, 2016 21:48
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:This is something that is still bugging me after I saw the full set. It is supposed to take place in a plane similar to ancient Greece so someone would expect the artwork to be relevant. Well, it is but only to some extent. Browsing through the cards I noticed a lot of the images depicting Africans, NOT Greeks. Since when my country is in Africa? Greece had regular dealings with Persia, Egypt, and Carthage. If it helps, think of it as depicting "the world at the height of Grecian power" and not "ancient Greece."
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Sep 13, 2016 21:52
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It's in fact very resonant for a plane full of brown people to all be engineers.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:This is something that is still bugging me after I saw the full set. It is supposed to take place in a plane similar to ancient Greece so someone would expect the artwork to be relevant. Well, it is but only to some extent. Browsing through the cards I noticed a lot of the images depicting Africans, NOT Greeks. Since when my country is in Africa? The first people to settle Greece came up from Africa, and for centuries afterwards there was trade across the Mediterranean which brought black (the Greek catch-all for them was "Ethiopian") traders, expatriates, and even slaves, after the defeat of Xerxes. Art from the time following Alexander suggests blacks were a significant minority in Greece, often taking up occupations as athletes or performers. So Arena Athlete is actually almost accurate Four Score fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Sep 13, 2016 |
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Sep 13, 2016 21:58
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Hellsau posted:Would you be satisfied if the only Cat Demons and Elephant Gods are new cards printed only at the Masterwork rarity? I'm mostly just being facetious. Representation is important, but I'd rather have a collectible card game focus on making their product fun and enjoyable instead of feeling the need to pander to certain people's ideas and beliefs.
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Sep 13, 2016 22:12
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  Was reproach too good? Seems like white is better at burning creatures out than red is atm.
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Sep 13, 2016 22:13
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Oh, I know. I'm doing the LoB thing and quoting mtgs.
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Sep 13, 2016 22:14
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Sickening posted:
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Sep 13, 2016 22:16
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Rules question. My opponent has Authority of the Consulate in play. I cast Fleetwheel Cruiser. Does it enter tapped?
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Sep 13, 2016 22:20
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No, it's not a creature until its trigger happens at which point it's already entered play untapped.
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caiman posted:Rules question. My opponent has Authority of the Consulate in play. I cast Fleetwheel Cruiser. Does it enter tapped? No. Enters the battlefield as an artefact, then it's trigger happens and makes it a creature efb 1.5 times apparently
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Sep 13, 2016 22:22
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Is this the first of Ajani we've seen besides that one random art piece?
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Logicblade posted:I'm mostly just being facetious. Representation is important, but I'd rather have a collectible card game focus on making their product fun and enjoyable instead of feeling the need to pander to certain people's ideas and beliefs. yea, the people who design the cards also design the art, and this is a real concern.
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Ok how about this one. Opponent has Authority of the Consulate, I cast Depala, Pilot Exemplar. Does her last ability trigger?
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I think not, because she's entering tapped and not becoming tapped. I could be wrong though.
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Some Numbers posted:I think not, because she's entering tapped and not becoming tapped. This. It was never untapped.
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 Instant speed 3 mana removal for white with a relatively soft condition (power 3 or greater) and Scry 1 on top. This seems constructed playable.  This seems like an easy first pick windmill slam in limited.  And this seems like a super-massive bomb in limited. the Orb of Zot fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Sep 13, 2016 |
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