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JacquelineDempsey posted:Got a source for me (or mama spank)? I love Booster/Beetle, and J'onn's obsession with Chocos never gets old for me. Martian Manhunter (vol 2) #24 from 2000. An amazing issue.
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Captain Bravo posted:That being said, it kind of is starting to turn already. I did not like #6 at all, I mean what fan is going to be stupid enough to try and kill someone to impress Spider-Man!? I think you could probably handwave it as her being a hypocrite. "He's important to me so he's not really a b-list. What? The other guy has a life? Well, he's a b-lister who cares. If Gwenpool is actually going anywhere emotionally, they'll probably have her learn that her behavior is kind of lovely.
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Sep 16, 2016 04:07
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Still enjoying Mockingbird a heck of a lot (#7).
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Sep 16, 2016 05:19
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Skwirl posted:I'm pretty sure the FF knew his identity for awhile before Civil War, all the New Avengers knew it from pretty much the start, and historically he's been closer to the FF. Nope this was the time when Johnny found out.
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Sep 16, 2016 05:30
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"Wheeee!" FFFFFKKKKKRRRRRSSSSS
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bobkatt013 posted:Nope this was the time when Johnny found out. Huh, you're probably right, i would have assumed they knew his identity at least as early as when they removed the symbiote from him, but I just looked at the issue and I was wrong
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Sep 16, 2016 05:46
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Wait a goddamned minute...is...is that a Santa Claus Conquers the Martians reference?! 
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Ensign_Ricky posted:Wait a goddamned minute...is...is that a Santa Claus Conquers the Martians reference?! https://youtu.be/ut-hn7sFieE?t=40m44s Yes, I think it is.
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Sep 16, 2016 07:42
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I'm not seeing it, it just seems like a generic robot. WITH DRUMSTICKS.
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Sep 16, 2016 07:45
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SynthOrange posted:I'm not seeing it, it just seems like a generic robot. The robot in SCCTM is named Torg and the bad guy is Voltar, it could still be a coincidence, calling a robot "Volt(some random syllable) was a fairly common naming scheme, but it'd be a big one.
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Sep 16, 2016 08:20
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Captain Bravo posted:Well, once nice thing about Gwenpool is that it's a series with a built-in expiration date. Once the next big thing comes along and shakes everything up, she's effectively out. RIght now she's coasting by solely on the fact that she knows all these "secrets", but comic book secrets only stay that way for a year or two. Her very premise only works with the status quo, so the author would have to be a complete moron to try and extend things past one short run. There's two bits of logic here, both based on her idea that this is a fake comic book world that isn't real. 1) If some minor bomber character shows up pre and post secret wars it's obviously so the writer can finish the plot because he's important to the writer. 2) From Gwen's point of view everyone is fake and not a real person so it doesn't really matter if they die unless they're important to her. They're not real people so what does it matter if they die? No writer would use the bomber's character again anyway. Neither of those were an issue for me. What struck me as more out of character is that this supposed comic fan thought "I know what will be a good idea, trying to kill someone directly in front of Spider-man! Why would he possibly object?"
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Sep 16, 2016 09:34
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Right, as I said in my first spoiler that was the big schism for me. I just think it's kind of hackneyed to try and shoehorn in a "Gwen needs to learn the true power of friendship and understand that these living, breathing people are actually people" message when the first 5 issues gave us multiple examples of Gwen empathizing, connecting, and respecting the innate humanity of dozens of people who apparently she now just... doesn't. And with no good reason given for why.
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Captain Bravo posted:Right, as I said in my first spoiler that was the big schism for me. I just think it's kind of hackneyed to try and shoehorn in a "Gwen needs to learn the true power of friendship and understand that these living, breathing people are actually people" message when the first 5 issues gave us multiple examples of Gwen empathizing, connecting, and respecting the innate humanity of dozens of people who apparently she now just... doesn't. And with no good reason given for why. Sometimes it takes people a lot of lessons before they really for real learn something.
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team overhead smash posted:Neither of those were an issue for me. What struck me as more out of character is that this supposed comic fan thought "I know what will be a good idea, trying to kill someone directly in front of Spider-man! Why would he possibly object?" Could she have thought he was still Otto?
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Funnily enough the latest Gwenpool arc is actually narratively identical to a Civil War tie-in, it's just the information came from Gwenpool's knowledge of the narrative instead of from the walking plot contrivance.Avulsion posted:Could she have thought he was still Otto? We're talking about Miles here so no.
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Captain Bravo posted:Right, as I said in my first spoiler that was the big schism for me. I just think it's kind of hackneyed to try and shoehorn in a "Gwen needs to learn the true power of friendship and understand that these living, breathing people are actually people" message when the first 5 issues gave us multiple examples of Gwen empathizing, connecting, and respecting the innate humanity of dozens of people who apparently she now just... doesn't. And with no good reason given for why.   Seems pretty in keeping to me. In Issue 2 she was also happy to blow that dude up with a rocket launcher, then in 3-4 she didn't really interact with normal or bit-characters again until this storyline started in issue 5.
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Sep 16, 2016 11:37
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Alright, I admit that maybe I'm a little off-base with how much gwenpool cares about comic book character's lives. But you can't dispute that the "attempted murder" thing was anything other than complete idiocy. She is one of Spider-Man's biggest fan, and thinks that she will be able to convince him murder is A-ok. It's just dumb. I can buy her trying to kill the dude on her own, or "helping" spidey catch him and then getting caught trying to off him herself, but she basically pops out in front of Miles with a gun and says "I'm gonna shoot this dude now, we cool?" Even going by her narrative logic, when have any Spider-Men ever liked The Punisher? Much less approved of him. Edit: poo poo, yeah, I just looked at the first issue again and I completely forgot that she straight up tries to murder Howard the first time she meets them so I'm just completely talking out of my rear end with the "gwenpool respects life" thing ain't I? 
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Sep 16, 2016 11:50
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I'm thinking Gwen's basically what you get if you dump Wicked Hate in the MU.
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Sentinel Red posted:I'm thinking Gwen's basically what you get if you dump Wicked Hate in the MU. I would read this series.
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Sep 16, 2016 12:58
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Sentinel Red posted:I'm thinking Gwen's basically what you get if you dump Wicked Hate in the MU. She'd spend five issues arguing with Captain America about how great fascism is. Hell maybe this will be the explanation behind Hydra Cap. A teenager from another dimension convinced him it was rad to subjugate people if you're a nice enough person.
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Sep 16, 2016 13:08
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WickedHate posted:She could be going insane. This is probably the case, considering how she starts breaking down in denial here. 
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Sep 16, 2016 13:56
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Skwirl posted:The robot in SCCTM is named Torg and the bad guy is Voltar, it could still be a coincidence, calling a robot "Volt(some random syllable) was a fairly common naming scheme, but it'd be a big one. There's also the fact that one of the most famous lines in SCCTM is "Nothing can stop Torg!", which is pretty friggin close to the title there.
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Sentinel Red posted:I'm thinking Gwen's basically what you get if you dump Wicked Hate in the MU. That kid she was going to shoot was clearly DT.
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Wade Wilson posted:This is probably the case, considering how she starts breaking down in denial here. Spider-Man consistently owns bones
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That's a really excellent page. i hadn't seen much I liked of Gwenpool but that one sells it pretty hard to me.
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Captain Bravo posted:Even going by her narrative logic, when have any Spider-Men ever liked The Punisher? Much less approved of him. tbf, Spider-Man works with Punisher (and Deadpool, another character who uses guns and kills people) a lot due to the power of popularity moving sales. But really you're putting too much thought into this.
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I like them selling how freakin strong Miles and Peter are with Gwen whining about how he didn't pull his punches.
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Bad guys don't cou- Sentinel Red posted:I'm thinking Gwen's basically what you get if you dump Wicked Hate in the MU. drat it. But you're not wrong.
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Gwenpool is basically a kid playing a video game; she doesn't care about the character's unless she has time to get to know them and they are decently written, and "badguys" are supposed to be canon fodder. She also doesn't expect any real consequences for her actions, assuming the narrative will twist to allow whatever she wants to do in the moment. She's slowly learning that is not the case.
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It would gently caress me up so bad if I got dumped in the Marvel universe. I'd have to start hating Jonah and being scared shitless of Eddie Brock.
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Lurdiak posted:It would gently caress me up so bad if I got dumped in the Marvel universe. I'd have to start hating Jonah and being scared shitless of Eddie Brock. You mean if you got dumped in the Marvel universe New York. If I ended up living in the same place I do now but just the Marvel Universe version I think (hope?) things would basically remain the same.
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Lobok posted:You mean if you got dumped in the Marvel universe New York. If I ended up living in the same place I do now but just the Marvel Universe version I think (hope?) things would basically remain the same. You could end up getting blown up in an event comic with the rest of your town.
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That's even worse. Do you know how hosed up and evil the Marvel Canadian Government is?
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I live in loving Oklahoma so I guess I'd be chilling with the Asgardians. Anyway, I'm pretty sure in the Marvel Universe the rest of America is a shrunken husk wrapped around a gigantic version of NYC anyway. If you live in another state you would just get assigned an apartment there.
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Sep 16, 2016 21:57
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I'd have to deal with my boss boxing Tony Stark every week, and telling off Alpha Flight.
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Lurdiak posted:That's even worse. Do you know how hosed up and evil the Marvel Canadian Government is? I always hear that but other than Weapon X what else is it?
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I remember in the early days of the Hickman avengers run, there was a casual mention of Regina, Saskatchewan being destroyed and it actually made the paper along with that issue being impossible to find.
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I live in Rhode Island; the only Marvel character from here is apparently "Doctor Natas. On the plus side, in the DCU we're where the JLA first started working, so there's that I suppose.
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Lobok posted:I always hear that but other than Weapon X what else is it? They've had the registration act forever, they got taken over by evil aliens like 3 times, they militarize all their superheroes, etc. And Weapon X is kind of a big evil thing to have!
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