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Speaking of bands that should have quit, I just listened to Cryptopsy's None So Vile for the first time and it blew me away, but I hear their later stuff sucked?
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il_cornuto posted:Speaking of bands that should have quit, I just listened to Cryptopsy's None So Vile for the first time and it blew me away, but I hear their later stuff sucked? Yes you could say that. Lord Worm era Cryptopsy was really great tech death. They are terrible now, much like decapitated. Less Claypool fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Sep 21, 2016 |
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Sep 21, 2016 20:47
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Still great live, though. Flo Mournier is from another planet and all of the other musicians are pretty drat good too.
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Sep 21, 2016 20:49
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il_cornuto posted:Speaking of bands that should have quit, I just listened to Cryptopsy's None So Vile for the first time and it blew me away, but I hear their later stuff sucked? Cryptopsy has always had a bit of a checkered past from release to release, but that particular album is a high watermark of the genre. Eventually their on-again-off-again vocalist and lyricist, Lord Worm, left the band for good and Flo Mounier took over the reigns and decided he loved deathcore. The rest is, sadly, not history.
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Sep 21, 2016 21:02
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il_cornuto posted:Speaking of bands that should have quit, I just listened to Cryptopsy's None So Vile for the first time and it blew me away, but I hear their later stuff sucked? The Mike DiSalvo albums and Lord Worm's comeback are passable tech death but nowhere close to NSV. Also if you check out Whisper Supremacy expecting a similar approach to Lord Worm on the mic you will really be thrown for a loop.
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Sep 21, 2016 21:06
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the new opeth album sounds like the producer decided to use a clock radio as a studio monitor. the drums and bass are really obnoxious and muddy
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Sep 21, 2016 21:28
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Nordick posted:Very true, but sometimes their music loving owns. Used it when we warmed up for martial arts practice back in the day, was appropriately cheesy.
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Sep 21, 2016 21:29
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a fleshy snood posted:If you're pining for old Opeth just listen to Anciients A+ recommendation! Never heard of these dudes before, but I just listened to this whole Heart of Oak album on youtube. I like it. Thanks
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Sep 21, 2016 21:41
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il_cornuto posted:Speaking of bands that should have quit, I just listened to Cryptopsy's None So Vile for the first time and it blew me away, but I hear their later stuff sucked? That's the general consensus. That said, I really, really enjoyed their newest EP. Dirt posted:A+ recommendation! Never heard of these dudes before, but I just listened to this whole Heart of Oak album on youtube. I like it. Thanks Yeah they're excellent. They've got a new album coming out real soon as well.
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Sep 21, 2016 21:43
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il_cornuto posted:Speaking of bands that should have quit, I just listened to Cryptopsy's None So Vile for the first time and it blew me away, but I hear their later stuff sucked? Depends who you ask. Purists don't like it because it's different, but I think it's the good kind of different (as opposed to Decapitated's kind of different). Try giving their new EP "Book of Suffering" a spin.
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Sep 21, 2016 23:06
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:what the gently caress is this The future of heavy metal. Why do you ask?
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Sep 21, 2016 23:53
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Nordick posted:I find Rhapsody and Turilli's solo stuff bad and exceedingly boring. Rhapsody is worse though, because of Fabio Lione. I realize this is probably weird since I enjoy other orchestrated goofy poo poo like Pathfinder etc. rhapsody just have no rhythmic dynamics. their drumming and bass-work is the most loving abysmal thing ever. i do like their cheesy neoclassical shredding but seriously so many italo-power bands are better - domine, secret sphere, labyrinth, even fuckin' ancient bards
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Sep 22, 2016 00:28
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WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:I'm totally down with '70s prog and holy gently caress did I love Opeth at one point, but jesus they're really terrible at this.
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Sep 22, 2016 00:36
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To Battle posted:They are terrible now, much like decapitated. What a goddamned shame about this band--they were sooo loving good, too. What do they do now? Is it deathcore?
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Sep 22, 2016 04:28
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Incoherence posted:Yeah, I keep trying to like New Opeth, but it's just really boring for the most part. Maybe Mikael Akerfeldt should spend even more time around Steven Wilson and maybe the latter's songwriting ability will rub off on him. I hope not. Steve Wilson's the piece of poo poo who made an album called Fear Of A Blank Planet thinking it was a clever enough play on words for the title of his "I'm afraid of the future" album. gently caress that guy. He wanted the entire world to see that pun he came up with. It's like these old men are turning back into dumb gently caress teenagers.
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Sep 22, 2016 04:42
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Faffel posted:I hope not. Steve Wilson's the piece of poo poo who made an album called Fear Of A Blank Planet thinking it was a clever enough play on words for the title of his "I'm afraid of the future" album. gently caress that guy. He wanted the entire world to see that pun he came up with. I mean, his band is called Porcupine tree
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Sep 22, 2016 04:58
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Henchman of Santa posted:I mean, his band is called Porcupine tree I hate him so much and it doesn't even have to do with his music. And by hate I really mean it annoys the poo poo out of me. Faffel fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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Sep 22, 2016 05:00
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Steven Wilson had his time, but then he started believing his own hype. I like a LOT of Porcupine Tree, but I think it should've stopped at Deadwing.
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Sep 22, 2016 05:18
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Henchman of Santa posted:I mean, his band is called Porcupine tree Didn't get this until now. Probably because there's nothing really to get.
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Sep 22, 2016 05:38
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New Darkthrone is good, but sadly not as good as their last few and I wanted basically a retread of Epicus Doomicus (Fenriz said it would be an influence on the album)
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Sep 22, 2016 05:41
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il_cornuto posted:Speaking of bands that should have quit, I just listened to Cryptopsy's None So Vile for the first time and it blew me away, but I hear their later stuff sucked? I just remembered you should listen to None So Live. It has all the cool Cryptopsy songs off the bad vocalist albums and has a pretty good vocalist doing them on one of the better live albums I've heard. It's just too bad they split Graves of the Fathers apart with a 7 minute long drum solo by Flo. Who even wants to hear a drum solo for seven minutes? Faffel fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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Sep 22, 2016 06:38
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AgentJotun posted:New Darkthrone is good, but sadly not as good as their last few and I wanted basically a retread of Epicus Doomicus (Fenriz said it would be an influence on the album) Darkthrone sounding like Candlemass would actually be the best thing ever!
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Sep 22, 2016 07:11
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Vargatron posted:Should have broke up when Lindgren left the band... Kinda hard to break up a one-man band. In the interview in Close-Up for the Sorceress album Åkerfeldt explicitly says he doesn't give a flying gently caress about people who want him to do Ghost Reveries and if he could he would stop doing tours altogether. Like any band does, Opeth have passed its prime. Wishing for a band to repeat its former glory is kinda pointless since a good band will produce one truly great record during its lifetime and exceptional bands will manage maybe 3-4. Cardiac fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Sep 22, 2016 |
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Sep 22, 2016 07:16
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Cardiac posted:Kinda hard to break up a one-man band. Yeah, Opeth had one of the best runs in modern music history so if they want to make dumb prog throwbacks they earned it. I saw Cobalt and Mantar tonight. It was vicious.
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Sep 22, 2016 07:21
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Faffel posted:I just remembered you should listen to None So Live. It has all the cool Cryptopsy songs off the bad vocalist albums and has a pretty good vocalist doing them on one of the better live albums I've heard. It's just too bad they split Graves of the Fathers apart with a 7 minute long drum solo by Flo. Who even wants to hear a drum solo for seven minutes? Did you just say that Lord Worm is a bad vocalist? Lol this loving thread.
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Sep 22, 2016 11:02
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TLDR Below is a long intro to back up the following statement: Cryptopsy are and forever will be the gods of tech death motherfucker, the Cryptopsy album is a loving monument as is every album before it Also, il_cornuto, none so vile is indeed their masterpiece but Whisper Supermacy follows close behind imo, you should give it a spin or two --- Y'know I saw Vomitory a few months before their disband while they were touring for Opus Mortis. Despite the fact that their latest album was loving AWESOME by everyone's standards, I could tell that those guys were there just for the money. Their performance was 100% flawless and professional, but Erik said at some point "Hey, we're gonna play really fast for you now", suggesting that he is so goddamn bored of playing the same style of music again and again for so many long years. As I said, a few months later they announced their disband. The moral of the story here is that a band should play whatever the gently caress they like, otherwise they might just not play at all. I'm pretty grateful that Decapitated returned to action, despite that 90degree turn they took music-wise (for which they are loathed by everyone), and I daresay that I liked the spheres of madness album. Was it up to par with old decapitated standards? gently caress no, but it was a good album, not a bad one. Reminds me of the kind of hate Entombed was getting during the "To ride.." and "same difference" period. People were dissing them day and night for the "simplicity" of these albums. But why are Entombed so universally loved by everyone? Because they just don't give a flying gently caress about what you and me think. They step out of their norm with almost every release and do their thing. But how you guys are hating on Cryptopsy is beyond me, these guys define the genre. In a way its like hating on sabbath or CC or something, idk.
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Sep 22, 2016 11:05
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Cryptopsy with Matt McGachy on vocals is loving terrible. They gave us an awful deathcore record as the great "comeback" record and their last full-length was a terrible Aborted-ripoff. I didn't even bother with their EP because I know when I should give up on lovely bands. I loved everything up until Lord Worm left that second time.
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Sep 22, 2016 11:21
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The old hating on bands who 'ripoff" those who once ripped them off complex. I don't buy it, but if you sincerely find Cryptopsy's albums terrible, so be it
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Sep 22, 2016 11:42
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A TURGID FATSO posted:Cryptopsy with Matt McGachy on vocals is loving terrible. They gave us an awful deathcore record as the great "comeback" record and their last full-length was a terrible Aborted-ripoff. I didn't even bother with their EP because I know when I should give up on lovely bands. I loved everything up until Lord Worm left that second time. i didn't think much of their last few albums but their recent EP was actually great
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Sep 22, 2016 12:17
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TheIllestVillain posted:i didn't think much of their last few albums but their recent EP was actually great If that EP is what's considered deathcore, then throw some spacers all up in my face and call me The Crab Man, I'm in.
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Sep 22, 2016 13:15
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a fleshy snood posted:If that EP is what's considered deathcore, then throw some spacers all up in my face and call me The Crab Man, I'm in. It's not. The Unspoken King was. Nurel posted:
Actually, Entombed are beloved because they made three really good albums. How many people do you hear talking up their post-WB material in hindsight?
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Sep 22, 2016 13:54
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Cardiac posted:In the interview in Close-Up for the Sorceress album Åkerfeldt explicitly says he doesn't give a flying gently caress about people who want him to do Ghost Reveries and if he could he would stop doing tours altogether. That's the vibe I got from him when I saw their 25th anniversary show in NYC. They played Ghost Reveries in entirety and then were supposed to play a whole second set after that, but it seemed like they didn't plan anything for it and just started playing pieces of a bunch of songs not even halfway through and Mikael going "eh I forgot how that one goes" Figured there's no need to ever see them again now.
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Sep 22, 2016 14:25
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Once I've started to digest None So Vile I'll give their live album and Whispers a try at least.
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Sep 22, 2016 15:25
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il_cornuto posted:Once I've started to digest None So Vile I'll give their live album and Whispers a try at least. Also listen to Blasphemy Made Flesh obviously if you haven't already
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Sep 22, 2016 15:33
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You know what band doesn't suck? Asphyx. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFaiGiWcyY8
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Sep 22, 2016 16:11
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Varg posted:That's the vibe I got from him when I saw their 25th anniversary show in NYC. They played Ghost Reveries in entirety and then were supposed to play a whole second set after that, but it seemed like they didn't plan anything for it and just started playing pieces of a bunch of songs not even halfway through and Mikael going "eh I forgot how that one goes" I saw the 20th anniversary show in London - Black Water Park in full and then stuff from every other up album to Watershed. Really good poo poo and they still cared about the older stuff then. Five years is a pretty long time really, but sucks if the show was that bad compared to the 20th
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Sep 22, 2016 16:21
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Dirt posted:A+ recommendation! Never heard of these dudes before, but I just listened to this whole Heart of Oak album on youtube. I like it. Thanks I'm listening to this now. It's great. Another thanks for the info on these guys.
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Sep 22, 2016 17:10
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WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:I'm listening to this now. It's great. Another thanks for the info on these guys. They have a new album out in less than a month. Heart of Oak is great, I'm looking forward to what they come up with next.
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Sep 22, 2016 17:23
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Hulk Krogan posted:You know what band doesn't suck? gently caress yeah, can't wait for this
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A TURGID FATSO posted:Did you just say that Lord Worm is a bad vocalist? Lol this loving thread. No, the live album has a bunch of DiSalvo stuff on it. The tour vocalist dude uses the same vocal style as DiSalvo so it's not my favourite, but I think the mix overall sounds nicer on all those songs live. Everyone seems to forget about Once Was Not too, but I remember liking that album a lot when it first came out. If you're gonna listen to Whisper Supremacy you might as well listen to Once Was Not. It's no None So Vile, but what is?
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