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Omobono posted:Welp, that seems really stupid. It is completely different from the original. But there are adds, how did you guess?
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That boss is a jerk, and I'm never going to bother fighting it fairly. I looked up a cheese strategy to get the weapon it drops, and I'm satisfied with that.
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the difficulty of atlus games is greatly overstated because telephone hyperbole but that boss is bad and is the logical extreme of eo2u's biggest problem
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Ragnar Homsar posted:b) Fetus's personal record with the Story party (legitimately one of the best parties for it) I'm gonna have to disagree with this part. Even if you're discounting cheese methods, the Story certainly has the tools needed to deal with the boss, but they are not one of the best parties for the job. A Classic party can cut down the turn count to 30 turns, simply because they're capable of dishing out more damage per turn. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Sep 7, 2016 |
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Update 66: idspispopd (Except Without the Smashing Part)  Oh boy oh boy. 28F is my most hated floor in the entire game. It is absolute hell to go through without using a map, and features really annoying, really deadly FOEs.              High Crawler HP: 974, STR: 67, TEC: 47, VIT: 46, AGI: 38, LUC: 48 Skills:
Disable resistances: The most fearsome and aggressive of forest caterpillars! High Crawlers are bad news if you kill them first, or even if they kill themselves with Vile Fangs. You can get really unlucky with Hell Thread and end up with most of your party members' key body parts bound, which can really easily be a game over against the wrong enemies. ...Which two Big Caps aren't in the slightest. Even if everyone got completely bound, these things would still die to a stiff breeze.         Like I said, that could've been much worse if there were other monsters accompanying the High Crawler.     Yeah, there's teleporters all over the floor that send you to these dead-end corridors, meaning I have to go back down to 27F and then walk back from there. It's only gonna get worse from here, folks.         Time to play a fun game of "guess which teleporter takes you further into the floor!"   The bottom one (which I labeled 6) is the correct answer.     This teleporter just takes us back here.   Black Claw HP: 2823, STR: 65, TEC: 48, VIT: 52, AGI: 43, LUC: 54 Skills:
Disable resistances: A ferocious ape whose luxurious coat is very valuable yet fragile. Black Claws are strange enemies, entirely because of Curse Dance. Curse sucks for your party to get tagged with, yeah, but it can vary for enemies. High Crawlers actually want to be cursed, for example, because it makes it easier for them to suicide on you and then use Hell Thread. Ancient Hermits, like the one here, though, can easily one-shot themselves just by normally attacking someone.       I don't remember why I used Eschaton for that one Black Claw, honestly.   gently caress THESE loving BLUE PUMPKINS         I'm not actually going to fight this thing for real. All you need to see for now is how much Terror Pain screws up my party:       Cursed Pumpkins have 0% resistance to cut, stab, and bash.  Note how I have the pumpkin's head and arms bound, as well as the fact that it's panicked. With any other enemy, this would be an incredibly favorable situation.  ...The problem is trying to whittle down 18k HP with just Stardust, since Freyja's a non-factor with these things.  This thing will 100% kill me if I try to war of attrition it.           Getting past the Cursed Pumpkin just means you have to go in the room when it's somewhere around where it is in this screenshot.                       One rest (in actuality, one day in real life) later...   SYSTEM: It's a small area of stone floor, and in its center is a square depression. It looks like something would fit inside. You recall that you are carrying a stone tablet for one of the bar's requests... You retrieve it, and compare the two--it appears as though the tablet and the hollow are the same general size and shape. Perhaps if you put the rock into the depression, something will happen. SYSTEM: You attempt to fit them together. Everyone gathers around, crouching down to assist you in the placement of the tablet... As you slide the stone into the hollow, you hear a rustling from up ahead! Within moments, you see a small opening. It seems as though you can make your way through... If you feel courageous enough to enter the passage, you may do so.   SYSTEM: You appear to have found the hidden area, but it doesn't seem to differ too much from this floor's usual scenery. Cass will expect more than this in your report... You should find some evidence or other to take back for him. This room is special. You can see an Icy Bulb in front of us, but it's actually impossible to clear out the room of the fog--because there's three Icy Bulbs, and even if you kill two of them, it's impossible to corral the last one into a spot where you can kill it. We wouldn't want to kill all of them anyway, because...   There's a teleporter all the way at the back of the room that you need at least two Icy Bulbs for--one to block the path, and another to push through the teleporter. Yes, Icy Bulbs can use teleporters just like us, and I'm doing this now because it'll be a requirement for fighting a postgame boss later on.   SYSTEM: The language is dense, but understandable. It reads... TOMBSTONE: He of the stone aerie, he of 50 heads and 100 arms, he who would shatter land and sky, he who devours mortal life, here resteth. Dread ye the loathsome giant's advent, for no man or woman of mortal blood may lay hand upon him... Pray thou that he remain in rest, and stray not into mortal lands. If thou be wise and mindful, then heed ye these words. However, if thy heart dost cry out for bitter vengeance, then steal the vision of his hundred eyes with brume and fog. Only thus may son or daughter of man strike true, and pierce the throat of evil with mortal-forged steel. SYSTEM: That appears to be all the text on this tablet... SYSTEM: You don't understand what the text is alluding to... However, it seems like this is the most you will be able to find in this secret room. It may be best to head back and report with what you've found.      I mentioned this before, but we needed to complete The best-laid plans to unlock a boss later on.                         What you can't see, even if I actually tried to document that room in full, is that there's two pumpkins constantly chasing you. Killing the Icy Bulb is pretty much a death sentence in there.        The first thing I did upon going back to town was looking at quests. The studious scholar: Shadow of the castle: In a little bit, Cass. The ancient blade: Good thing we can kill Salamander ludicrously easily now.  Fair-skinned woman:             Given that the true ultimate axe has an HP and VIT bonus in exchange for a few less points of ATK than the Yggdrasil Axe, you could make an argument for preferring the Yggdrasil Axe on an Axe Landsknecht.   Let's close out with 29F dialogue.        I cooked some foods. Hermit Sugata-zukuri makes it so that Fire, Ice, and Volt Jars are infinite use. Absolute garbage, why would you take this over the Attack Item Up effect? Black Osuimono doubles the chances of Grimoire Fevers occurring. Again, I must ask, why use this over the DLC if you have the DLC?    Good typo. Good copy-paste, too. (In the original EO2, your guild basically unleashes a bunch of monsters out of the Forbidden Wood and near the city by trying to go further. That got dropped in EO2U, but Marion still talks about it.)  ... Someone at Atlus USA didn't do their message box length check properly. (EO games don't automatically do word-wrapping, the writers have to manually insert linebreaks where applicable to stop dialogue from overflowing out of the text box.)   Dubois greets us with his Shadow of the castle text. Hecatoncheires, or "that thing most people I talk to about EO2U can't spell." Anyhow, Dubois's normal dialogue.  I'm sure you could infer this, but next time: Hecatoncheires. Rea fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Sep 14, 2016 |
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Expecting a Hecatoncheires vote here? Unfortunately, for the remainder of the LP, there will be no more voting for floor or boss parties. Several of the upcoming bosses and floors (pretty much all of them, really) are intensely annoying and I'd rather tailor-make a party that can just stomp them effortlessly. Hell, I might even be reduced to Stigmata + Ecstasy cheese one last time for a certain red dragon...
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You know, the weird part about the reused dialogue is that they aren't complete copy and pastes. If you compare the script with the original game, the wording is a bit different. I wonder if it was the original Japanese script, or the localization that was slacking here.
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Dr. Fetus posted:You know, the weird part about the reused dialogue is that they aren't complete copy and pastes. If you compare the script with the original game, the wording is a bit different. I wonder if it was the original Japanese script, or the localization that was slacking here. Atlus is good with the script usually, so it might be lazy localization on Atlus USA's part. God knows it shows in their earlier games and it's shown it's ugly head in their newest titles too. I hope that SMT4:A's localization doesn't wind up lazy by the end-game...gently caress SMT4's Neutral Route, by the by, that poo poo was insane busy work that made me put down the game for longer than I want to admit and wound up restarting my file.
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Oh Belamy. Continue to throw the salt. It's so delicious on my popcorn. 
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A mapless room with thorn floors. Ouch. That's one of them there player endurance tests.
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Bonus: DLC So there are a bunch of quests that can only be accessed through DLC. Most of these just include new boss fights, most of which aren't that interesting. This did not prove to be popular with the Japanese audience, so EO5 ended up limiting the DLC stuff to cosmetics and grinding. Anyways, here's the first one we're tackling. The Story party won't pipe up until we enter the 3rd floor.            You nod at Bertrand's words, keeping your defenses up while approaching the beast cautiously.   It then slowly opens its great beak...  It's a real shame I can't record 3DS footage, because this bird has voice acting. In fact, it's ability to talk was used as a selling point for this DLC.  At Bertrand's question, the bird looks wistfully off into the distance. “Look, we put a giant talking bird in the game. Just go with it.”      Here's the main gimmick of this DLC quest aside from fighting a giant talking chicken (rooster?). Master Bird will give you an item upon being defeated. The less party members you defeat him with, the better the reward.  In Classic Mode, you have to come with the preferred amount of party members before the fight. Story Mode just lets you choose which party members you want to fight with if you opt for the 2v1 or 1v1 options. The rewards are as follows: Fighting with 3 or more people will net you a Bronze Belt, an accessory that gives the user 30 HP and +2 to all stats. Fighting with 2 people will net you a Silver Belt, an accessory that gives the user 60 HP and +3 to all stats. Fighting with 1 person will net you a Gold Belt, an accessory that gives the user 100 HP and +5 to all stats. If you have the Original Sin DLC and are planning on tackling that, I highly recommend farming Gold Belts for your entire party. If you're looking for an Expert solo kill in Story mode, the best candidate for the fight is Flavio. No I'm dead serious, he really is the best person for the fight. If you're thinking Knight could solo Master Bird... Well, you're not wrong, but it would require quite a bit of optimization and more luck than just bringing Flavio. If you want to know the details on pulling off a solo kill on this guy, read Ragnar Homsar's LP. He shows how. As for me, I'll be fighting him with the Guild Guild.     I'll spare you the details of the fight.   With that triumphant bellow, the crested bird rises from its defeated slump, and begins to quietly flap its wings...!    You have completed the quest! When you have time, you should visit the bar to report your progress.  Next up is this quest.      Normally, the air would be filled with beautiful pink blossoms, but instead a relentless snowfall is drifting down! Gazing around at the curious anomaly, you hear a familiar voice echo from above...   With that, Canaan quickly extricates himself from the scarf wrapped around his neck. ...It seems it wasn't to his liking.    You decide to head to the area indicated by Canaan to defeat the monster called the Frost King. Aside from the Stratum getting a blue filter placed over the screen and bringing in the particle effects from the 3rd Stratum, nothing really changes on this floor. The encounters aren't any different, and there aren't really any map gimmicks that you have to deal with. Just head straight over to the boss room.    When the monster notices your presence, it growls lowly, coldly glaring in your direction!  You can certainly see Bertrand's point. Just as you're ready to turn and retreat, the Frost King lets out a mighty roar! Now, take your weapons in hand and fulfill your duty! Slay the monster that calls forth winter!  I kill the Frost King.  As the Frost King collapses with a bitter cry of pain, the raging winds cease, and the snow fades softly away. In its place, a warm gentle breeze blows through the area... As if beckoned by the changing winds, the buds on the trees blossom one by one, and their vivid color returns to them! Wafting on the new winds, the soft aroma of fresh flowers fills the room... As you gaze at the flowers, you hear the familiar sound of flapping wings.  Canaan inhales, slowly and steadily, then exhales with a satisfied expression. He then turns to face you.  And with that, Canaan spreads his wings as he did when greeting you, and flies into the skies above. Stars and decrees aside, it appears you have completed the quest. Return to the bar when you have time, and report your success!  Here is the next DLC quest.       If you plan on proceeding on, you will need to exercise extra caution. If you are resolved to confront this vicious monster, then proceed onward!          You barely manage to dodge, but you can feel its trailing heat scald you even in passing. Its power must be immense... What shot that arrow... appears to be a grotesquely fused being, comprised of both humanoid and equine form. You've never seen a creature like this before... It is clear that this is the beast you have come to slay! You must dodge the centauroid monster's punishing volley as you proceed onward! Okay, so the gimmick of this DLC is that the room we're in is a puzzle. If we get in the Thunder Queen's sights, she'll prep an arrow. Next turn, she'll shoot the arrow, and if we're in the way, we take a lot of damage. But she can't move for one turn after shooting. So you have to navigate around the rocks to get to her.  This auto-walk path I've drawn shows you how to get to the Thunder Queen without taking any damage.  I kill the Thunder Queen.   Flavio's rivalry aside, it would seem you have completed the request. Return to the bar when you have time and report your success! Yeah, this DLC along with the Frost King DLC isn't all that interesting compared to some of the later ones. Of course it makes sense when these things were essentially re-purposed scrapped bosses. Although considering how those pieces of DLC are handled, perhaps that was for the best. Alright, so what's next?  ...Actually, you know what? I'll save the rest for later. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Sep 21, 2016 |
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The Eldritch Hound DLC. 
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I don't understand exactly how the Thunder Queen works. Does she shift north and south to track your movement that way?
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Glazius posted:I don't understand exactly how the Thunder Queen works. Does she shift north and south to track your movement that way? Yeah, pretty much. If you stay on the same horizontal line as her, she'll prep it then. Bit hard to see on the map, but there are straight roads without any debris or rubble or anything, and that's where she'll shoot the arrow. Also the Eldritch Hound is a special kind of  for Untold 2
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:The Eldritch Hound DLC.
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For the record, Eldritch Hound is one of the DLCs I'm skipping, because both the fight and what happens after it annoy me immensely. Also the equipment you can make from the "boss" is absolute garbage.
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I can't even remember what equipment I got from that quest.
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Most of the equipment from the DLC quests aren't really anything to write home about. The exceptions are the Bikini Armor from the Hot Springs DLC, and the Gold Belts from Master Bird. And that's mainly if you plan on tackling the Original Sin DLC fair and square (You are a madman if you do this.) Though the Bikini Armor is really good for Beasts throughout the game.
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So are you guys just going to do a cursory glance over all the DLC and not properly show it off? I don't blame you since most of it is garbage, or is Fetus just doing a quick Story bit with any DLC Ragnar will cover?
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Fetus is (to my knowledge) showing off the DLC I don't want to do fully. This includes that one.
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Crosspeice posted:So are you guys just going to do a cursory glance over all the DLC and not properly show it off? I don't blame you since most of it is garbage, or is Fetus just doing a quick Story bit with any DLC Ragnar will cover? I'm basically playing cleanup duty and will go in depth on the stuff Ragnar isn't covering. This is why I didn't cover the other bits of DLC in that update. I was originally just going to cover the cutscenes, but then Ragnar said he didn't want to do the rest of the DLC. And yes, I'm going in depth on all of the post-game DLC.  (Eldritch Hound isn't that bad compared to Treasures Untold or The Original Sin, though it's still pretty bad.)
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Bonus: The Eldritch Hound Okay, this update will be covering this piece of DLC. And since Ragnar Homsar won't be covering it in his LP, I'll go into detail on it myself.   ...You must be the guild that accepted the quest. Call me Ryle. I'm something of a researcher of Yggdrasil. Now... Let me get straight to the facts of the matter. What I'd like to ask of you is to restore a certain seal that exists inside the Yggdrasil. It was apparently created to seal off monsters referred to as the Hounds of Tindalos... And recently, there's been reports of the seal in question being broken. There's no way for us to know precisely what happened in the forest, but you can see this is something of an emergency. My sources state... the once-sealed monster hunts for power to endlessly self-replicate. The forest would soon be overrun by them. If it can truly multiply itself in such a way, then I doubt the damage will be contained to the forest for long... It's possible the monsters would advance out of the Labyrinth, into High Lagaard and beyond... To prevent that from happening, we must restore the seal by moving its stones back to their proper places. Simple, in theory. Reportedly, the seal's original shape was a perfect circle. Our aim, then, is to restore it to that shape. According to the documents, the barrier exists somewhere in the southeast on the 12th floor. I've heard you're quite famed throughout the city for your abilities... but I suggest you still exercise caution.  Incidentally, Ryle shares a voice actor with a character from EOU. I'll go more into detail on that later. Also yes, that is indeed a reference to one of H.P. Lovecraft's works. Not the first time this series has done something like that either (See EO3.)     With Flavio urging you on, you resume your exploration towards your objective.   Chloe wrinkles her nose in disgust, and you suddenly become aware of an unpleasant, pungent odor. You concur with Flavio - absolute caution should be the order of the day if you are to progress further on this path. If you are fully prepared to face a vicious monster, then go forth!    You begin searching through the hidden area in order to locate the missing fragment of the seal. Spoiler alert: It's at the very end. But take the time to familiarize yourself with the area and make a good map of it first before heading there. Oh and the random encounters in this area are the same as the rest of this floor, so don't worry too much about them.        Indeed, the fragment at its feet appears to be the missing piece of the spherical seal! To make matters worse, the monster is carefully poised before the shard, as if protecting it... It seems that if you wish to acquire the missing seal fragment, you will have to defeat this creature first. You can challenge the Hound of Tindalos to a fight immediately, or you can wait and simply observe.   Interesting, it has a yellow aura instead of the purple one used to denote bosses.                      Here's my food and party setup for this fight. If you aren't at level 99, don't bother engaging it.   Here we go.  Tindalos Level: 99 HP: 135000 STR: 95 TEC: 90 VIT: 70 AGI: 58 LUC: 63 Exp: 666666 Skills:
Disable resistances: Description: A monster that pursues its quarry like any hunting hound. No one has outsmarted it! Oh boy, look at that HP count, EO2U broke 6 digits at last, something no other game in the series has accomplished! Anyways, here's the thing with this fight, Tindalos isn't a boss, it's actually an FOE. And yes, there is a reason behind that distinction. As such, it doesn't really have an attack pattern, and doesn't have a wide variety of skills. It's not really an interesting fight, but it has almost as much HP as the post-game final boss! So it's kind of a slog. A funny thing that can happen in the fight is that Tindalos has the ability to permanently power itself up by draining power from your party members. Now if you let the fight go on too long, Tindalos will absorb so much power to the point where the damage overflows back to 0%, and it ends up doing single digit damage for a good while. (What is it with EO2 and damage overflow?) Tindalos is susceptible to leg binds, but it really doesn't serve a purpose other than getting its conditional drop. None of its skills use the legs, and it's not particularly evasive.  Oh and Tindalos starts out the fight with an add, because of course it does. Toxin Gland Level: 99 HP: 15000 STR: 95 TEC: 90 VIT: 70 AGI: 58 LUC: 63 Exp: 0 Skills:
Disable resistances: All the Toxin Gland will do is place an environmental effect that lowers how effective all forms of healing are. If you don't find the need to do so, feel free to ignore it, as that's all it will do. Fortunately, the Toxin Gland will never respawn once you kill it, so feel free to go after it first.      Which is what I'll be doing first after I prep up my party.  Bah. Not that I really expected him to land the Blind that easily with Tindalos' 25% resistance to it.    Okay, kind of off to a bad start here.  ...That was only 0.5% of Tindalos' max HP. We're gonna be in for a loooooong fight.  This is the Toxin Gland placing an environmental effect that lowers how effective our healing is. It's not much at first, but it'll keep doing so for every turn it's alive. After 10 turns pass, healing is pretty much gonna do nothing. But once that thing dies, the environmental effect will disappear. Now I kinda need to make use of healing here, so I'm gonna focus on that first.  Sheesh, I'm already being put into a bad position.  I've got Force Reset and Force Charge, so I'm not too worried about Knight's Force in this battle. So...   Let's get going!   Gonna dispel that Poison first.  The first thing I probably should have done is set up Prevent Order, as Tindalos likes to inflict statuses.  Venom claw again. Good thing I had Prevent Order up.   You know, that would be a lot of damage in other cases. But as it stands, Knight has barely scratched Tindalos.  And the Toxin Gland is gonna make it even harder to heal.  Might as well finish up the combo.  I don't like wasting time healing up in fights, but I have to play defensively here since Flavio's having a hard time landing his ailments.  I'll have Arianna chip in some damage.  Yeah, she normally heals for around 200ish.    I'm pretty sure I can take down the Toxin Gland in a timely manner. Tindalos, not so much.  Well, that kinda sucks. But Knight is Transformed right now, and doesn't really care about losing 150 per turn.  You know the drill.  Ha ha! That'll make things easier. Though I'm not using the Blind food at the moment, so Tindalos isn't really a sitting duck. I'll still have to watch out for its attacks.     Ready to see some fireworks?   That was Shock Swing, which only missed the front row. Thankfully Bertrand and Arianna didn't get inflicted with anything.  For the record, Toxic Gas affects all forms of healing, including Vampire. Fortunately Chloe deals enough damage that it still fully heals the front row.     Okay, time to get rid of that gland.  I was tempted to hit Tindalos with Hazy Arrow, but I think I'll use that on the gland, since I want it gone as soon as possible.      Unfortunately, that wasn't enough to kill the Toxin Gland.   Though it got it close enough to death.  This fight is nowhere close to being done, so I'll just cancel Knight's Force Boost for now.  Flavio will finish off the Toxin Gland.  Oh hey, there's Sagittarius Shot.  Don't expect this to last for long. Once your Fafnir knight is in the post-game, they should be spending as little time in the untransformed state as possible.  Alright, that takes off a lot of pressure in this fight. Now I can just focus down Tindalos.   Unfortunately, Arianna got Paralyzed, but whatever. I still have Barrier.  Gonna work on building Knight's Force back up first.  The Blind wore off, so I'm gonna Paralyze Tindalos now. Now I have the Paralysis food in effect, so if it lands, it'll be a sitting duck.  It'll probably take a while for that to happen, but I'm not too worried.  This should get Knight past 100 Force.   Flavio has Hazy Arrow up, so I wanna make use of that. I'll have Chloe protect the team from ailments in the meantime.  Just in case Force Charge decides not to boost Knight's Force all that much, I'll have Bertrand boost his Force with an Axcela.  Oh wow, look at that sweet damage! Flavio is doing as much as Chloe's Ailing Slashes!  Oh uh, this move is something to be mindful of.  First of all, it hits pretty hard if you neglected to use Front Guard like I did. But it places a 50% damage debuff on the target. However, every time Tindalos successfully lands the debuff, its damage output permanently increases by 35%. And no, that's not a buff, so you can't purge it off. So letting the fight run on too long isn't advisable.    Oh wow, just look at all that Force Knight gained! I'll be able to do (almost) back to back Transforms with that!  Okay, now it's time to focus down Tindalos.  Better revive Flavio.    ...That was only less than 3% of Tindalos' HP.   But, might as well finish up the combo. Again.  Ha ha! Well now, this is a nice turn of events!   ...That, wasn't much better than a Fire Wave.     Everyone who's name isn't Knight is starting to run low on TP. (I love Force Energy. ) So I'll have Arianna use her Force Break in a bit. But I may as well get some mileage out of her Force Boost.    I'm planning on using Flavio's Force Break in a bit, so I also prep his Force Boost.  I want Arianna to use Link Order when Knight attacks, so I'm burning her Force Break a turn early.   1700 damage is decent, I suppose.   Everyone should be able to last a little longer in this fight now.     Okay, here we go!          You know, that was a nice chunk of damage right there. I wonder how much more of the fight we have left to go?  ...We are 14 turns in, and we aren't even close to the halfway point!  Oh well, let's get another Transform going. I'm gonna need it.  And might as well get his Force Break off.     One Delayed Chase, and Knight should be able to Transform again.   And here we go. Again.   Nice. It's been more than 8 turns since I first inflicted the blind, so I got another chance to land it again. I'll be alternating between using Blind and Paralysis.  Okay, you know what? I'm gonna be honest, this fight is boring. Once the Toxin Gland goes down, any tension in this fight is gone and Tindalos becomes nothing more than an HP sponge. It's not a difficult fight at all, just really tedious. The “difficult” aspect of this fight is running out of resources. The worst part is, it was deliberately designed to be that way! Why? Oh, you'll see the reason for that soon enough.   You know what? I think both the FOE and Transform themes are rather inappropriate for such a fight as intense and riveting as this. Here, why don't you listen to some music that's more fitting for this situation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvwlcr69FAI      Transform Count: 4        Transform Count: 5           GOOD GRIEF, FINALLY!  It took 37 turns just to kill that HP sponge! It would be nice if this is where the DLC ended. Sadly, there's more to go.  You strike down the Hound of Tindalos, and obtain the barrier seal's shard laying at its feet.  Chloe has been silent until now, but she tugs on your sleeve. She seems to have noticed something. Suspicious about where the stench is coming from, you stay on guard, surveying your surroundings. ...Could it be your imagination? You feel as if the air around you is starting to become oddly stagnant...   The newly-appeared Hound of Tindalos locks eyes with you before giving an unearthly shriek of raw hatred! ...It seems the hound is after the piece of the seal you hold.  You must keep the shard safe from the monsters' grasp as you head back to restore the seal! You cannot allow the seal's fragment to fall into the monster's hands. Now return to the room of the spherical seal!   And here's the actual gimmick of this DLC. Oh, you thought the fight was the main point? No, that was a deterrent. Going through that fight once was awful and boring, and you don't want to go through that again, right? Because running into another Hound of Tindalos will start the exact same fight all over again!   Could the Hound of Tindalos's foul miasma be preventing it from activating? Yeah no, the thread is useless here.  And Floor Jump is disabled as well. The objective of this DLC is figuring out how to get out of here while a bunch of FOEs pursue you. Oh, and killing it again is pointless unless you get cornered. It will just respawn again and do so indefinitely. I hope you made a good map of this area!   You decide to head towards the perfect circle barrier in order to fix the seal there... And if you use a Return Flute, this happens. So there is a way to reset the puzzle at least, if you screw up.  I'll mark down the paths you need to take to get out of here. You'll need to use the ice tiles to get ahead of Tindalos. Though in some cases, you'll have to get closer to it, and then double back so it doesn't cut you off later. This room is one such example.     Tindalos typically spawns in alcoves. Oh, and once you get out of a room, all the Tindalos' pursuing you disappear. You can use that trick to retry a room if you mess up the puzzle. I should hope this Hound of Tindalos would be easy to get past for you.    For this Hound, you'll have to lead it around this pillar to get past it.       You have to do the same thing here, but first you need to shorten the gap between you and Tindalos so it doesn't cut you off when you try to lead it around a pillar.   And of course they also put in a few jump scares.  For this room, you want to follow this path first.   Then double back on the ice to give these Hounds the slip.   For the next room, follow this path first.  Then follow this route.   Then use the ice to your advantage to get past this hound.   Here's part one on how to get through this final room.   And with that, we're out!   As you press the shard against the small gap, the piece suddenly moves on its own, pressing against the chipped sphere! With some small popping sounds, the sphere seems to accept the shard, as if healing its damage... As the last fault disappears between shard and sphere, it takes on a strange, gentle flow... Almost instantly, the unpleasant smell fades from the room, and you sense no more monsters in the area. ...You appear to have successfully restored the seal!  You have now completed the request. Return to the bar and report your findings to the researcher Ryle! ...It would probably be best to console Flavio somewhat before you get back.  Now we can use the Ariadne Thread.  Oh, it's you. How is the quest going? ......I see. I appreciate the report. A fascinating case indeed... This means that these documents were correct. But I still have questions... Why was the seal broken in the first place...? Looks like another investigation might be necessary... ...Oh, I'm sorry. I appreciate your help in the matter. It looks as though I made the right choice in asking you. You've done better than I expected, in fact... Excellent work. I left the reward with that Cass fellow. Don't forget to pick it up, hm?   Not worth it.  Though I suppose you can grind on this quest if you want to retire at 99, and then grind back up. Anyways, once we leave the bar...   So Ryle is actually Simon from EOU. He was the Medic in the player's party, and was also from the Midgard Library. If you want more details, play that game. Anyways, let's take a look at what Tindalos' drops unlock.  The Odd Purple Hide unlocks the Toxic Gage, which increases the wearer's defense by a minor amount, and increases Increases Instant Death, Petrification, Sleep, Panic, Poison, Blind, Curse, Paralysis, and Fear resistances by 5%. Yeah, it's trash.  The Bound Talon unlocks the Toxic Cannon, which has a 5% chance to inflict Petrification, Sleep, Panic, Poison, Blind, Curse, Paralysis, and Fear. Also trash, just like this DLC. Anyways, next time...  A trip down memory lane. Nostalgia, or  ? You decide! (It's the latter.)
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I liked Treasures Untold, to be honest. At least it doesn't make you have to do a corridor run against a Level 99 damage sponge FOE.
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Sep 23, 2016 07:31
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I hated Treasures Untold, mostly because one single error--or even something you literally could not see coming--means you lose a LOT of time and have to start the thing from scratch. (Yes, I was relying on a Hexer and then got to Manticore before dying horribly.)
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Sep 23, 2016 07:38
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...You could have used a Return Flute in the Tindalos mission? I haven't touched Treasures Untold before actually, so it'll actually be new for me. That and the last DLC. If you're actually doing it, then may god have mercy on you, Fetus.
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Sep 23, 2016 08:18
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In other news: I might've been spending a lot of time the past week or three preparing for the EO5 LP. In light of that, I tossed an idea by Clarste and alcharagia (my partners in crime for EO5, if you didn't read the test post): we're opening up EO5 character submissions early in this thread, because hey, we already have all this stuff ready to go. Note that this isn't the only period for EO5 character submissions, this is just if you want to get it out of the way. We won't be deciding on who gets in just yet. Character creation information's over here. This'll be open until the LP ends and the EO5 LP begins...at which point it'll reopen anyway. Rea fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Sep 23, 2016 |
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Sep 23, 2016 08:25
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Yeah, I'll be honest. Tindalos is just boring and annoying. Treasures Untold is basically a series of dice rolls that requires you to be psychic, because the damage outputs there are just way overtuned. Of course, The Original Sin is far worse than both of them.
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Sep 23, 2016 08:51
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Yeah, the EO2U DLC is... not fun but most of the EO5 DLC is just cosmetic stuff, right? I don't even know why I bothered finishing all the DLC, it was just such a slog. But very much looking forward to the EO5 LP, it'll be a nice stopgap before I can get my hands on a US copy months before the EU release.
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Crosspeice posted:Yeah, the EO2U DLC is... not fun but most of the EO5 DLC is just cosmetic stuff, right? I don't even know why I bothered finishing all the DLC, it was just such a slog. The EO5 DLC consists of:
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Ragnar Homsar posted:we're opening up EO5 character submissions early in this thread  Didn't expect to see that tonight. Uh, have one on the fly, I guess! Name: Nolan Class: Dragoon Portrait: 3B, except with 3A's whiter/grayer hair. Voice: Somber Nolan is an experienced explorer from an older time, who actually did manage to make a good name for himself. The people that did know him knew he retired after a few good years as an explorer. The people that knew his rumors know him as one of the best protectors across the lands. The people that met him after his retirement will say that he's a funny man that pretends everyone is his son (especially when he's drinking... which is often). Not many people can say why he's suddenly back in the exploring business, though. All they know is that bright spark that was in his eyes before suddenly became a bit duller than usual, and his laughs are more hollow than they were before. The people that knew him, though, they will shake their heads and sadly turn away, without an answer. When asked, he will say that he wants one last journey before he dies, with his shield in one hand and his sword in the oth- "...Wait, where'd my sword go?!  "
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Sep 23, 2016 09:45
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Ah crap, forgot to mention in the character creation info: specify a voice, too! Voices can temporarily be found in the test post until tomorrow morning, when I can fix this.
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Name: Ritz Class: Hound Portrait: 1B (Keep the white wolf if ya can) Voice: Hag A wild, violent murderess of the woods, she had long since learned to commune with nature as well as bloody it if it got too close to her with their fangs. She brings about a wolf she raised from a pup to help her fight, and up until being found for the guild, had avoided overly populated areas and stayed away from people in general. She might be young, she speaks with age and wisdom far beyond even her years, even for her species. She was found on the outskirts of town and convinced to join in the climbing of the tree in an attempt to keep one's barrings within the labyrinthine tree. Though she communes with animals...she does have this penchant to misunderstand, for better or worse...mostly the latter. Also, don't touch the ears, one of two things will happen; A. You pacify her for the time being or B. you wind up pulling back a bloody stump. "How cute, look at that luxurious fur...lets not bloody it too much, I needed a new blanket." Kemix fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Sep 23, 2016 |
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Sep 23, 2016 18:05
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It might have been a little (lot) on the easy side, but I'm sad that EO4's design wasn't retained for EO5; the whole 'explore the world in your airship' thing was genuinely cool and enjoyable for me. Does anybody know how well it sold? (In comparison to its predecessors, I mean - absolute values may not be the most helpful here.) Still, looking forward to the LP!
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Sep 23, 2016 18:14
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vdate posted:It might have been a little (lot) on the easy side, but I'm sad that EO4's design wasn't retained for EO5; the whole 'explore the world in your airship' thing was genuinely cool and enjoyable for me. Does anybody know how well it sold? (In comparison to its predecessors, I mean - absolute values may not be the most helpful here.) Still, looking forward to the LP! It sold a little less than EO4 at retail, but bear in mind that EO4 also wasn't on the eShop for its initial release.
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Crosspeice posted:Yeah, the EO2U DLC is... not fun but most of the EO5 DLC is just cosmetic stuff, right? I don't even know why I bothered finishing all the DLC, it was just such a slog. Yeah, and there aren't gonna be anymore gameplay DLC like EO2U had. Ragnar and I poked around in the files, and all we saw was placeholders for the cosmetic stuff. EO2U actually had placeholders for all its DLC. Due to how the files are structured, it's actually impossible/needlessly difficult for them to add something like that in the future. vdate posted:It might have been a little (lot) on the easy side, but I'm sad that EO4's design wasn't retained for EO5; the whole 'explore the world in your airship' thing was genuinely cool and enjoyable for me. Does anybody know how well it sold? (In comparison to its predecessors, I mean - absolute values may not be the most helpful here.) Still, looking forward to the LP! quote:With the game out, here are the initial sales numbers. Are we voting on the guild names now, or is that for later? Anyways... Name: Raven Class: Reaper Portrait: 1A, except with black hair and black eyes. Voice: Intellectual Tired of his home life and not being taken seriously, Raven set out to explore the Labyrinth to make a name for himself. He took one of his tools he frequently used at his home, and decorated it to make it seem shiny and cool. An awesome weapon means the wielder is awesome too, right? And can't forget the awesome looking outfit too. But despite all his attempts to seem all cool and edgy, he comes off as pathetic or adorable to other people, much to his chagrin. “I'm not a farmer! I'm the deadliest and coolest assassin around! ...That happens to know a lot about crops and cute little animals-and why are you laughing!? Stop petting me on the head!” Araxxor fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Sep 23, 2016 |
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Sep 23, 2016 18:20
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Eh, don't see why not re: guild names. It's not a vote this time, mind. Same stuff as character names: either give us something in English and Clarste'll translate it, or give us something in Japanese and I'll spend an embarrassing amount of time inputting it by hunt-and-peck.
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Hated the Hound DLC for essentially being a 'Do it right the first time or get screwed' escape sequence. One wrong step and BOOM ANOTHER 15 minutes till I could try figuring out the last room again! Name: Duke Class: Cestus Portrait: The correct one (3B), with red hair and orange eyes. Voice: Rough A former prize fighter banned from the arena due to his disregard for the rules in the ring and for the amount of brawls he was involved in outside of it. He tries to stay calm but once somebody/thing tries to pick a fight with him, nothing can stop him till the offender is a wreck. In an attempt to put his habits towards a better purpose, his trainer pointed him toward the labyrinth where such tactics are a key for survival. "They aren't broken yet? Well, Let Me FIX THIS PROBLEM!"
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Name: Sheila (シーラ) Class: Dragoon Portrait: 2A, base colors. Voice: Soldier Ex-soldier who left the military for glory, Sheila has already attempted to explore the labyrinth. Keyword being attempted. Sometimes solo, sometimes in a guild, all in failure. She's decided to give it one last attempt before she begrudgingly accepts the offer to return from her former superior. She doesn't like talking about her missing eye (Don't play with knives at a young age folks... Actually just don't play with knives.) If the Hound DLC is this bad, then I'm not sure I want to know how bad Original Sin is.
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