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El Disco posted:At least they're not HE-flinging Nagatos, like the one I just had on my team. I can see how he got that 42% winrate. Just play in PT and not care. 10 wins in VMF DDs, BBs, and CAs give you 10 free type 6 camos for each (30 total), plus the 3 of each flag just for one win. I just need to do my 10 CA wins. Edit: You get these for your public server account after PT is done if it wasn't clear. Also a day of premium if you get rank 1 in PTs ranked games. Victor Surge fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Sep 24, 2016 |
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How's the move from the Kirov to the Budy? I feel like I'm going to miss these 180s. Also, people forgetting that the Kirov has torps never gets old as they line up a broadside to finish me off.
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Victor Surge posted:Just play in PT and not care. 10 wins in VMF DDs, BBs, and CAs give you 10 free type 6 camos for each (30 total), plus the 3 of each flag just for one win. I just need to do my 10 CA wins. I'll have to give that a shot tomorrow. AfroSquirrel posted:How's the move from the Kirov to the Budy? I feel like I'm going to miss these 180s. Also, people forgetting that the Kirov has torps never gets old as they line up a broadside to finish me off. Definitely better. Yeah you only have 152mm guns, but the rate of fire is pretty nice and they're good at burning ships down. You also have half-decent armor as long as you keep the ship pointed towards threats. All the later Russian cruisers actually have weaker armor than the Buddy, until you get to the Moskva I think.
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Devorum posted:Is the American CV tree fun at all? I'm getting close to the Ryujo on the IJN side, but have been tempted to grab a Langley. In my experience, the Saipan is absolutely amazing and one of the most OP ships in the game all things considered. It can never face a higher tier CV and the only non-Saipan things that give it trouble are AS specc'd CVs, which IMO is already a bonus for you if they have come into a match like that. Also the speed and recycling of its planes make it much more engaging than other US CVs. Zuiho and Shokaku are the highlights of the IJN line, I stopped at Shokaku. But currently I'm not playing CVs much. The clumsy Interface and insane high tier AA make it frustrating currently.
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Sep 24, 2016 06:29
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kaesarsosei posted:Another incorrect opinion on a loving fantastic ship. The Nagato is amazing, and even more so with the current MM rules it can take advantage of. I would take it over the Colorado any day (better speed and slightly more accurate guns) and its touch and go with the Gneisenau. And this is my opinion from playing the Nagato in its currently bugged state, its getting an armour buff in the next patch which should narrow the survivability gap to the Colorado. The changes to DD armour may also be an indirect buff to the Nagato's AP secondaries (tbh I am not spergy enough to know if that's true but that's how I read it when I glanced at the changes). Wow, wrong opinion? The Nagato requires a play style that some people may not like, more standoffish to compensate for its bad armor. To the person who triggered you, the Amagi plays like a big T8 Kongo, so if you didn't like the Kongo you probably won't like the Amagi... probably.
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Sep 24, 2016 07:04
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Sep 24, 2016 08:47
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JacksLibido posted:Wow, wrong opinion? The Nagato requires a play style that some people may not like, more standoffish to compensate for its bad armor. Opinion yes but thankfully backed up by reality. I cba posting screenshots so look them up for yourself. The Nagato is doing better than the Colorado over any time period.
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Sep 24, 2016 09:51
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I don't like battleships because they are driven by cowards who I can't commissar without taking a five minute trek back to a corner of the map. This weekend has been really bad, despite not even being 200%.
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Sep 24, 2016 11:41
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Reminder. The following ships are good and fun : anything that isnt a midway.
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Sep 24, 2016 12:02
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E Equals MC Hammer posted:Reminder. The following ships are good and fun : anything that isnt a midway. Counterpoint: Karlsruhe.
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kaesarsosei posted:Opinion yes but thankfully backed up by reality. I cba posting screenshots so look them up for yourself. The Nagato is doing better than the Colorado over any time period. That doesn't invalidate his opinion that he doesn't like the boat. The Colorado is doing awful globally, but I'm a full 15% better w/r in it. To me the Nagato was a slog that I'd never do again and completely put me off playing my Amagi for a long time. That other people think it's good or that globally it has a better w/r than the Colorado means nothing, especially since globally I'm a full 12% higher than the average in my Colorado. It fits my play style, the Nagato doesn't. That doesn't invalidate my opinion at all, especially when someone is asking if they'll like a boat and lays out an example that they don't like the Nagato. People tend to get super butt hurt when you dare to say you don't like their precious fake boat in an arcade game.
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Sep 24, 2016 12:55
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Is there a secret to why my BB salvos either bounce or just hit water meanwhile other dudes always be getting several thousand damage each dump?
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Sep 24, 2016 13:19
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Think you could make that question less specific?
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atsf is back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku3qM_AC-Os Also, flamu was gifted a dunk. He is still terrible at it because his playstyle doesn't match how you play it. The revelation that he was in a t8 game followed by the repeated "OWWW" from him at the start was pretty hilarious. Losing half my health at the start is an amazing experience I have felt a few times in the ship as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ2H5irgvDI
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E Equals MC Hammer posted:Think you could make that question less specific? Why's my RNG/dispersion bad?
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What tier are you, what tier are they, are you at your max range, are you using the dispersion reducing mod or range increasing mod.
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Sep 24, 2016 15:13
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JuffoWup posted:atsf is back. atsf delivers as usual, while Flamu, well.. he doesn't know how to dunq? "I'm turning away"  (I didn't bother watching the whole thing)
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Once you go in, the only way out is backwards. You can dance at longer ranges though, the rudder time lets you do cruiser turns.
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Sep 24, 2016 15:28
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I did a cool thing yesterday where i reveresed into the map boundary at an angle and slid backwards along the map to the astonishment of a scharnhorst.
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Sep 24, 2016 15:36
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But the Scharnhorst even has a built-in aimbot aka torpedo sights?! he must be challenged in the finer arts of the shiny horse 
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xthetenth posted:Once you go in, the only way out is backwards. You can dance at longer ranges though, the rudder time lets you do cruiser turns. Yup, once poo poo looks like it is going south, you just start reversing. He was pretty much driving full speed the entire game as well which is also a no no. Set a corridor of denial and then start fiddling with the throttle to mess up all the shots.
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JuffoWup posted:atsf is back.  Atsf is amazing and I'm very glad we have him to carry the silly torch now that phontomen isn't the same anymore. I just wish he did Tanks videos as well.Fake edit: The duck quack when things get hit will never cease to amuse me, ever.
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Hi wibla, its me elusif, buy my eve gold. Anyways the guy stayed at like 14km from my dunkerque for 4 minutes then finally started closing. He launched torps at 4km and I don't know what he was aiming at because the entire spread went in front of me.
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JuffoWup posted:Yup, once poo poo looks like it is going south, you just start reversing. He was pretty much driving full speed the entire game as well which is also a no no. Set a corridor of denial and then start fiddling with the throttle to mess up all the shots. If I'm up against one enemy that can citadel me or ones whose reload cycles line up, I'll frequently turn away and hold an angle. A reverse is committing you until/unless the enemies die, give up, or get around you. Similarly, I'll often be angling to use my speed to get into lospsided fights rather than commit to a corridor. Part is that I've got the reverse as a backup if the primary option isn't looking good, and partly because it keeps me looking at the enemy so I'm more likely to be long range and dancing if there's too much enemy to take on the nose, and also because reversing falls apart dramatically against 15s and up.
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Ooof got the Pensacola and I'm really hurting in this.
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What's your opinions on the best 4 point skill for German cruiser captains? Should I go secondaries or AA? I've been thinking of going with the fire start chance because German cruiser HE is so terrible, it needs all the help it can get, but I'm not sure it's worth it.
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JacksLibido posted:That doesn't invalidate his opinion that he doesn't like the boat. The Colorado is doing awful globally, but I'm a full 15% better w/r in it. To me the Nagato was a slog that I'd never do again and completely put me off playing my Amagi for a long time. That other people think it's good or that globally it has a better w/r than the Colorado means nothing, especially since globally I'm a full 12% higher than the average in my Colorado. It fits my play style, the Nagato doesn't. That doesn't invalidate my opinion at all, especially when someone is asking if they'll like a boat and lays out an example that they don't like the Nagato. Except that he didn't say he doesn't like the Nagato, which is an opinion, but that he flat out says the Nagato is a bad ship and that the Colorado is better, even disregarding stuff that speed in the game is an advantage. That's not an opinion and deserves to be called out. Projecting much?
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ZombieLenin posted:What's your opinions on the best 4 point skill for German cruiser captains? Should I go secondaries or AA? I've been thinking of going with the fire start chance because German cruiser HE is so terrible, it needs all the help it can get, but I'm not sure it's worth it. Aft. The germans have solid long range aa guns on their ships. Their ap is strong enough that he is only sparingly used.
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I feel like Nagato has been hurt most by shifts in the meta. The AP secondaries were great back when DDs still had citadels because it would nuke the poo poo out of them. Now they're just kinda meh, and you don't want to close the distance with a Colorado (which has better belt armor) or the Gneisenau/Scharnhorst (which will eat you alive) because your secondaries aren't good enough to justify it. You definitely want to keep at stand-off distance. On release, and especially when it was the only T7 BB back in beta, you could go full  and lead every charge. Nowadays the secondaries are more of a bonus than a true asset.I play it nowadays like a Fuso with fewer-but-bigger guns.
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E Equals MC Hammer posted:Reminder. The following ships are good and fun : anything that isnt a midway. Counterpoint part 2: The Kawachi and it's fellow garbage tier upgrade the Myogi Both of those ships are utter unfun shitboxes
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IJN BBs at T5-8 are best in class for damage output and speed, worst in class for armor protection. The Nagato and Izumo have roughly the same armor, which is a bit more important in the Izumo's case as its sporting T7 armor in a T9 meta. The Amagi has LESS armor than the Nagato. All of the IJN BBs tend to have better ballistics, range, and traverse than their counterparts. You don't play them as brawlers, if you do you're braindamaged. They can only brawl with cruisers, not ships with guns bigger than 8 inches. When IJN BBs brawl with CAs, they tend to poo poo all over them, as you've got the superior arcs, ridiculous potential DPS, and above average maneuverability for a BB all in your favor. When they brawl with other BBs, they just get citadeled or have guns crit because their armor isn't great and their turret layouts pre-9 favor firing from broadside, not frontal engagements. At T8, the Amagi will poo poo all over all the other BBs at range. But there are too many shitters who don't know how to not get hosed blasted to hell and back in Amagis, so they instead get into the idiot proof Bismarck or roll in bow forward in their North Carolinas, or sit back at max range and snipe away. Note: the Amagi is not a max range sniper ship, it wants to get in a middling range where shells aren't coming in flat or plunging, a sort of immunity zone where its shell arcs can shine and bounce American shells and giggle at how the german shells are bouncing due to their low caliber.
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I've always liked "brawling" with my Nagato at ranges of 10-12km. Am I Nagatoing wrong?
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"Alright I still need two wins in Soviet DDs and two in cruisers to finish these missions, shouldn't take too long" 
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Nordick posted:"Alright I still need two wins in Soviet DDs and two in cruisers to finish these missions, shouldn't take too long" You are doing it wrong: 
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Hammerstein posted:You are doing it wrong
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Minenfeld! posted:I've always liked "brawling" with my Nagato at ranges of 10-12km. Am I Nagatoing wrong? Not really. Around 10 kilometers is what I'd say is the ideal range for BB guns. You don't actually want to deliberately approach someone past this range unless you *know* you can kill them for sure in a couple of salvos. Usually it's DD's going in for a trench run or CA's that you run into that invade that range, at which point your secondaries start opening up on them, and then the "brawl" starts so to say. You shouldn't start the brawl in most cases, the other ships come to your turf looking for trouble.
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Really wish they would work on the match making with CVs. Tired of having the mouth breather CV on my team.
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JuffoWup posted:Aft. The germans have solid long range aa guns on their ships. Their ap is strong enough that he is only sparingly used. Thanks, that's exactly what I was wondering, but it seemed setting up a cruiser captain just like a German BB captain might be wrong. I also do use German HE on well angled poo poo I can't pen well... it just sucks, but aft made slightly more sense in my brain.
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Junkozeyne posted:Except that he didn't say he doesn't like the Nagato, which is an opinion, but that he flat out says the Nagato is a bad ship and that the Colorado is better, even disregarding stuff that speed in the game is an advantage. That's not an opinion and deserves to be called out. Projecting much? Did you... did you even think about what you were writing there? Projecting? I barely even play and when I do it's grinding through the shitheap that is the Gneisenau.
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