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TheIllestVillain posted:they do know "white" Hispanic is a thing right I'm pretty sure they've never met one. If they did it would probably blow their minds.
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Why Ironman shouldn't tell Pepe or you how to vote(video)quote:To: libertarian27 quote:quote:To: Vaquero quote:To: Alas Babylon!; libertarian27
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RagnarokAngel posted:
You give them too much credit. There are a few options he could mean. First, he could be claiming that another group was here first, thus, by his logic legitimatizing wiping us out and making us colonists as much as they are. Secondly, there is a belief among many (Ted Nugent is an exemplar of it) that modern native Americans aren't real natives because we don't wear headdresses, act like characters in westerns, and don't go along with their political and economic agendas. This is analogous to what Thomas King calls Dead Indians. He might also just be stating we have no right to be acknowledged as such.
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SocketWrench posted:
I mean, we do, but it's not "all of a sudden," it's been the supreme law of the land since the nation's founding.
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Sep 24, 2016 13:49
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Jissed this the first time but: quote:All of a sudden , Islam is taught in schools. If he means "Going over that it exists for at least 20 years" then this is correct.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Coaches and players don't have any influence on money, so that is unfair and very freep Absolutely. Blaming coaches and players for the poo poo the team owners pull to get millions of tax dollars to build stadiums is complete bullshit.
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OptimusShr posted:Jissed this the first time but: I went to a conservative Christian high school and we had a whole semester that was just learning about all the other world religions. Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hindu, Shinto, Jainism, Zoroastrianism, Native American religions, plus a bunch more. We even took a field trip to a Buddhist temple and took part in meditation. Freepers just like being ignorant and understand very little about Christianity, much less any other religious beliefs.
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McGlockenshire posted:Freepers are incapable of seeing anything negative about Trump at all, aren't they. Personally I want to believe they're mentally sick, along with the Cruzers. I just can't bring myself to belief they willfully follow either of them blindly because it makes absolutely no sense. One of the Trumpers i work with stopped supporting him when he was shown and told what was going on with Trump's list of fuckups. The other is just a conspiracy nut that buys into the most absurd crap. Course he's also involved in a pyramid scheme that one day soon he'll be rich enough to quit work....one day...some day...soon...SOON. Jesus, I think I aged 40 years reading those last two... OptimusShr posted:Jissed this the first time but: It's Freep. I can guarantee you what's meant is "Public schools are converting young, pure, white, soft, delicate, tempting, sexy, supple....er...ahem....christian boys to Muslims per Obummer's new rules he hasn't mentioned yet but has given advanced copies out to every school in the country. It's true because I read it in a :fwd:fwd:fwd:fwd:fwd:fwd:fwd e-mail thingie" SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Sep 24, 2016 |
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SocketWrench posted:Personally I want to believe they're mentally sick, along with the Cruzers. I just can't bring myself to belief they willfully follow either of them blindly because it makes absolutely no sense. One of the Trumpers i work with stopped supporting him when he was shown and told what was going on with Trump's list of fuckups. The other is just a conspiracy nut that buys into the most absurd crap. Course he's also involved in a pyramid scheme that one day soon he'll be rich enough to quit work....one day...some day...soon...SOON. Personally, it seems like all their bile and desperation to return the nation to a period that never existed is just due to them being old and scared. Things are changing so much that the bubbles they hid in all their lives can't let them pretend that they are the sole representatives of "real America/Christians" enough to really convince themselves anymore and they can't take it. Nothing makes sense to them anymore, other people are getting a say, and their bodies are withering as death approaches. Instead of facing their fears, they lash out like this against everyone else and latch on to any fake strawman who promises to make the scary world go away so they can be safe. I pity them almost as much as I hate them.
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Tiberius Thyben posted:You give them too much credit. There are a few options he could mean. First, he could be claiming that another group was here first, thus, by his logic legitimatizing wiping us out and making us colonists as much as they are. Secondly, there is a belief among many (Ted Nugent is an exemplar of it) that modern native Americans aren't real natives because we don't wear headdresses, act like characters in westerns, and don't go along with their political and economic agendas. This is analogous to what Thomas King calls Dead Indians. He might also just be stating we have no right to be acknowledged as such. It could also mean that since Europeans have been here for a few centuries, that "native american" has lost its meaning since aren't we all native to america now? As always, you can never go too deep into the abyss when trying to decode Freep.
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quote:To: Lurkinanloomin Jógvansson? Helgesen? Sjöberg? Pricks like this fuckface make the high school experience shittier than it needs to be. gently caress that guy.
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The worst part is some students just have to get used to it. I worked at a college library circulation desk last year and ran into some middle eastern kid who just had his night made by my being able to pronounce his name correctly the first time. I forget what it was, besides sounding Arabic and having an uvular fricative in the last name (the 'kh'/'ch' sound you find in Hebrew and Arabic). He just seemed so jazzed that someone finally got it right, asked me where I was from that I could actually pronounce it and all.
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Sep 24, 2016 20:20
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lol freepers as educators the next generation is hosed
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Freepers are passive aggressive assholes IRL and take pride in it. I wonder why their children disown them.
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Mors Rattus posted:The worst part is some students just have to get used to it. I worked at a college library circulation desk last year and ran into some middle eastern kid who just had his night made by my being able to pronounce his name correctly the first time. I forget what it was, besides sounding Arabic and having an uvular fricative in the last name (the 'kh'/'ch' sound you find in Hebrew and Arabic). He just seemed so jazzed that someone finally got it right, asked me where I was from that I could actually pronounce it and all. I have an African middle and last name with a silent letter and learned to just give up on anyone pronouncing or spelling it right without practice so this conversation is familiar to me.
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Geostomp posted:I have an African middle and last name with a silent letter and learned to just give up on anyone pronouncing or spelling it right without practice so this conversation is familiar to me. I have a Gaelic-looking last name, and amen. It sounds like a very normal last name, it's just spelled very weirdly.
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Sep 24, 2016 20:39
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Geostomp posted:I have an African middle and last name with a silent letter and learned to just give up on anyone pronouncing or spelling it right without practice so this conversation is familiar to me. Indian first/last name here and I'm always surprised people get it on the first try. Though people are way better at guessing nowadays, so there's that. Also gently caress that Freeper in particular for deliberately mispronouncing names. That's a bullying tactic that's been used against me and other immigrant kids I've known.
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Tubesock Holocaust posted:To: Lurkinanloomin "As a molder of young minds I am intentionally a dick to them over something they have no control over and when they get mad because of it I tell them to try and pronounce some bullshit name I gave myself so I can feel like a self righteous fucker" Mors Rattus posted:The worst part is some students just have to get used to it. I worked at a college library circulation desk last year and ran into some middle eastern kid who just had his night made by my being able to pronounce his name correctly the first time. I forget what it was, besides sounding Arabic and having an uvular fricative in the last name (the 'kh'/'ch' sound you find in Hebrew and Arabic). He just seemed so jazzed that someone finally got it right, asked me where I was from that I could actually pronounce it and all. Yeah, but that's kinda different. People honestly don't know how. Like when I was a kid people didn't know my name was spelled "ch" and either wrote C or K. This guy is intentionally doing it because it makes him feel big. Big difference between ignorance and dickheadedness SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Sep 24, 2016 |
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Sep 24, 2016 22:14
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Neo_Crimson posted:Also gently caress that Freeper in particular for deliberately mispronouncing names. That's a bullying tactic that's been used against me and other immigrant kids I've known. Incidentally this is exactly the point of the campaign. It'll be worth clicking through to the campaign site, it might make you feel a little better.
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SocketWrench posted:"As a molder of young minds I am intentionally a dick to them over something they have no control over and when they get mad because of it I tell them to try and pronounce some bullshit name I gave myself so I can feel like a self righteous fucker" An educator deciding to stoop to third grade bullying tactics on his students for his ego is the sort of thing that the school board should really know about. I do have to admit that it does show that Freep is following the ethos of their idol, the Orange One. Geostomp fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Sep 24, 2016 |
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Sep 24, 2016 22:41
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quote:To: Lurkinanloomin Someone in the replies points out that it should be "too silly."
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Sorry for double post, but another krug quote:quote:
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WrenP-Complete posted:Sorry for double post, but another krug quote: So his official lesson plan is "if global warming, why cold?"
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Geostomp posted:So his official lesson plan is "if global warming, why cold?" I'm a pretty even keeled little bird but this makes me livid.
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Huh, I wonder why I keep having to make these jokes at such weird times of year.
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Geostomp posted:So his official lesson plan is "if global warming, why cold?" This is pretty much the whole group's stance when it comes to climate change. "Well if global warming, why do we have cold days"
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From Obama: once out of office, I’m gonna stop being polite and start getting real posted by freeper Salman It's a really bad headline and even Vox should know better. Not a single word of it came out of his mouth. Here's the part of the actual Vanity Fair interview transcript. the actual transcript posted:OBAMA: [...] But, you know, when I leave I’ll be 55, and I’ll have an entirely new chapter of my life—the work I want to do with a presidential-center library, creating a platform for the next generation of young leaders across disciplines to work together … [and other] things that in some ways I suspect I’m able to do better out of this office. I wonder if the word "uppity" will appear on freep today. quote:To: bigbob quote:To: Salman quote:To: Salman I want to believe that campaign Obama is the real Obama. Is that what you mean? quote:To: Salman quote:To: Salman quote:To: Salman quote:To: Salman quote:To: Salman Original formatting. quote:To: Salman More original formatting. quote:To: Salman quote:To: Salman quote:To: Salman quote:To: Salman It should be noted that I excluded about a half dozen other variations on "he should be put on trial for treason and executed."
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McGlockenshire posted:It should be noted that I excluded about a half dozen other variations on "he should be put on trial for treason and executed." You just know if asked "What did he do that was treasonous?" They wou;dn't be able to name a drat thing.
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OptimusShr posted:You just know if asked "What did he do that was treasonous?" They wou;dn't be able to name a drat thing. They would say "not know his place" if they had the balls to be honest with themselves. Since they don't, Obama is the incarnation of all that is evil because he must be to justify everything they already think and feel.
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OptimusShr posted:You just know if asked "What did he do that was treasonous?" They wou;dn't be able to name a drat thing. Their dislike for him has so many layers to it, it's absurd. He's black but not even freep is stupid enough to actual embrace real, honest-to-goodness, blatant racism. The advent of the birther movement gave each and every one of those bigots an excuse to hate on him. Now combine that with their attitude about patriotism. Look at their circlejerk over the flag and the national anthem. Jingoism is all that they know. Their own environment stifles dissent. Dissent isn't patriotic, it's treasonous. If you don't like something about America, you must therefore hate America. Every single element of the treason narrative is inside their collective imaginations. It's a meme in the RWM nutjob ecosystem, but they don't have enough insight to realize it... and even if they could realize it, anyone telling them this is clearly going to be an America-hating liberal intellectual that should be thrown in Gitmo. The isolation created by the RWM echo chamber is one of the worst things to ever happen to this country. The schism it's created in our ability to discuss opposing political ideas is going to take some serious work to overcome. Even then, that's only going to be possible once people take their heads out of their asses and look around at loving reality. From Home schooling ripped by Obama education chief posted by freeper kevcol. Let's not beat around the bush here. Nine times out of ten, parents homeschooling their children are doing them a significant disservice. Those parents are often motivated by religiously motivated right wing nutter beliefs and are pulling their children out of school to prevent them from being exposed to liberal ideas, like, oh, I dunno, all of modern teaching theory? These same groups are the ones pushing for ""school choice"" and budget-destroying charter schools, all in an attempt to replace their perceptions of "liberal indoctrination" with ones that they come up with. Their motivations are almost always purely political. (There are edge cases where some children have learning styles or problems that can't be served well by schools, and some schools are indeed horrible places where neither the teachers nor administration give a poo poo, but those are the extreme minority and "bad local schools" is a lovely, lovely excuse.) Source: my sister is a teacher Source 2: years of experience battling fundies Source 3: freep Original fomatting. quote:To: kevcol quote:To: kevcol Oh, did I mention that the guy talking in the article is black? quote:To: kevcol quote:To: kevcol I don't understand 90% of this post. quote:To: kevcol quote:To: BenLurkin quote:To: kevcol How the gently caress many freepers were bullied in school? quote:To: BenLurkin quote:To: kevcol quote:To: kevcol Oh, I get it now. quote:To: kevcol quote:To: kevcol quote:To: kevcol quote:To: kevcol quote:To: Spok quote:To: metmom I keep expecting one of these rants to be from savagesusie... quote:To: SecAmndmt
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quote:Children who attend godless schools **will** learn to think and reason godlessly. How do you reason, uh, "godfully"? I'm not trying to be an atheist dick but I thought that was the point, you don't reason your way into faith. I don't know why I'm saying this, the freepers can't hear me. They couldn't hear me even if I was talking to them. I...I just needed to say it?
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If you are homeschooled, isn't a spelling bee just against people in your homeschool group?
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woke wedding drone posted:How do you reason, uh, "godfully"? I'm not trying to be an atheist dick but I thought that was the point, you don't reason your way into faith. I don't know why I'm saying this, the freepers can't hear me. They couldn't hear me even if I was talking to them. I...I just needed to say it? You replace thought processes with Jeezus.
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WrenP-Complete posted:If you are homeschooled, isn't a spelling bee just against people in your homeschool group? Nah, they let them participate in their local schools usually. It's weird like that.
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woke wedding drone posted:How do you reason, uh, "godfully"? I'm not trying to be an atheist dick but I thought that was the point, you don't reason your way into faith. It's not about reason, it's about "reason." They're talking about bog standard religious indoctrination. If your worldview mandates that there be a god, and that this god is the only source of knowledge and truth, this will act as a filter against ideas that will call those beliefs into doubt. Evolution can't be true because that's not how it's documented in the religious texts. Global warming can't be true because a loving, caring god would never allow his creation to be tainted. Abortion is always evil because it's killing a babby. The death penalty is A-OK because it's proscribed in the religious texts. I could go on and on and on. Indoctrination of this type is toxic to independent reasoning. In that last post they went on and on about how those darned liberal schools were teaching a new set of obedient drones without understanding that imposing their own restrictive worldview on their own children and separating them from their peers ends up serving the same purpose that they're afraid of. They're not wrong about there being significant structural problems in schools, especially high schools, but their solution is insane. It's just more of the same short-sighted cultural isolation that you see all over the religious and right wing nutjob communities. WrenP-Complete posted:If you are homeschooled, isn't a spelling bee just against people in your homeschool group? National and regional spelling bees don't seem to care much about educational background. Oh also your name is so awesome.
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As someone who was homeschooled for three years for non-religious reasons, I can tell you that, in my anecdotal experience, the majority of homeschooled children are at home for religious reasons. We once went to a local textbook fair with the local homeschool group to buy books for the upcoming school year and my mother and I ended up as pariahs because the American history text we bought wasn't the highly recommended book that explained how America was founded by God. We parted ways with the homeschool group not too long after that and a strong of other incidents.Hello Meow posted:Nah, they let them participate in their local schools usually. Public schools let us join in on science fairs and what not. But it wasn't always pleasant. The public school parents used to complain that homeschool kids had an unfair advantage because we could spend all our days preparing our projects but their kids had other things to do. I suppose it could be true, but in my case, I also had other things to do.
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McGlockenshire posted:It should be noted that I excluded about a half dozen other variations on "he should be put on trial for treason and executed." This is getting stale. It's like their default end of term response to everything democrat.
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The only kid I know who's homeschooled for reasons other than "religious whackjob parents" is being home-schooled because his lungs are all hosed up and he kept getting infections that made him miss too much regular school. IIRC, his mother also had a lot of problems finding appropriate science/history materials due to fundie bullshit, like science books that taught Biblical creationism and such.
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Yeah, I was homeschooled for non religious reasons too (which was awful in itself) and I was always thankful that at least I wasn't one of those religious kids. My family was briefly involved in homeschooling circles, and even as a kid I knew there was something really wrong there.
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