The China Megathread III: It is not a happy everyday

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Deep State of Mind: Jul 30, 2006; "It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."; Fun Shoe

IT stuff.

# ? Sep 22, 2016 18:56

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# ? May 30, 2024 19:16

SB35: Jul 6, 2007; Move along folks, nothing to see here.

VideoTapir posted:

If you were a Chinese woman living in America, but planning on going back to China in a couple years, what would you study at an American community college (university is also a possibility, but probably not for 4 years) with the aim of being able to parlay that into a career in China?

My wife needs something productive to do with her time here.

A teaching master's is possible in 1.5 years. That coupled with 1-2 years teaching experience could get a job as a well paid teacher at an international school.

# ? Sep 22, 2016 19:20

Tom Smykowski: Jan 27, 2005; What the hell is wrong with you people?

Do anything and then convince people in china that an A.A. is like an advanced degree

# ? Sep 22, 2016 19:56

vanity slug: Jul 20, 2010

Or they'll think you're an alcoholic

# ? Sep 23, 2016 06:54

The Great Autismo!: Mar 3, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

VideoTapir posted:

If you were a Chinese woman living in America, but planning on going back to China in a couple years, what would you study at an American community college (university is also a possibility, but probably not for 4 years) with the aim of being able to parlay that into a career in China?

My wife needs something productive to do with her time here.

Are you guys coming back to China? This country isn't going to last another decade, it's time to start making an escape plan, not an entry plan

# ? Sep 23, 2016 11:37

SB35: Jul 6, 2007; Move along folks, nothing to see here.

The Great Autismo! posted:

Are you guys coming back to China? This country isn't going to last another decade, it's time to start making an escape plan, not an entry plan

The US is gonna be at war with everyone in 10 years, might as well get in (or out) while you can.

# ? Sep 23, 2016 12:10

The Great Autismo!: Mar 3, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

SB35 posted:

The US is gonna be at war with everyone in 10 years, might as well get in (or out) while you can.

it would be better to be in USA in a time of war than it would be to be in China when it is collapsing on itself

Especially if you are a foreigner

ESPECIALLY if you are a foreigner married to a local

# ? Sep 23, 2016 12:32

Tom Smykowski: Jan 27, 2005; What the hell is wrong with you people?

Top notch forecasting, guys.

# ? Sep 23, 2016 14:16

VideoTapir: Oct 18, 2005; He'll tire eventually.

The Great Autismo! posted:

it would be better to be in USA in a time of war than it would be to be in China when it is collapsing on itself

Especially if you are a foreigner

ESPECIALLY if you are a foreigner married to a local

I've got an exit plan, but until I need it I want to go back.

SB35 posted:

A teaching master's is possible in 1.5 years. That coupled with 1-2 years teaching experience could get a job as a well paid teacher at an international school.

Unfortunately, she hasn't gotten 'round to finishing her degree in China. IT could work, at least.

Also, American teaching experience or no, a Chinese person isn't gonna get the big bucks at an international school.

# ? Sep 24, 2016 03:59

caberham: Mar 18, 2009; by Smythe; Grimey Drawer

The real international schools have the same pay for everyone. And if you want extra guarantee then foreign citizenship helps.

It's not banker or lawyer pay and capped rather early but it's good benefits and is a "real job" salary.

It's at least 350000 rmb a month not including a supplementary housing allowance

# ? Sep 24, 2016 05:21

The Great Autismo!: Mar 3, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

caberham posted:

It's at least 350000 rmb a month not including a supplementary housing allowance

teachers in Tianjin make about 20,000rmb/month and have housing included at the international schools, not 350,000 rmb/month, FYI

at least thats what it was 2 years ago, maybe with the RMB dropping it is more? idk. it was 20,000/month (after taxes) and housing. not a bad deal, esp for tianjin

The Great Autismo! fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Sep 24, 2016

# ? Sep 24, 2016 05:42

caberham: Mar 18, 2009; by Smythe; Grimey Drawer

I typed an extra 0, oops

I was thinking of the big named ones like Yew Chung and harrow.

I was thinking more in line of the bigger cities and top tiered places known by the rest of the international teaching circuit

# ? Sep 24, 2016 08:06

The Great Autismo!: Mar 3, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

35,000/month along with housing, if that's after taxes, is a pretty ridiculous pay for a regular teacher. like a history teacher making 35,000/month along with a housing stipend after taxes, that's like a 100,000 USD/year job. that's more than some university professors with PhDs make.

i'm not saying it doesn't happen, but to tell people "yeah come be a teacher at an international school in china for 35,000rmb/month" just isn't very realistic. at all.

# ? Sep 24, 2016 09:37

Deep State of Mind: Jul 30, 2006; "It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."; Fun Shoe

The Great Autismo! posted:

35,000/month along with housing, if that's after taxes, is a pretty ridiculous pay for a regular teacher. like a history teacher making 35,000/month along with a housing stipend after taxes, that's like a 100,000 USD/year job. that's more than some university professors with PhDs make.

i'm not saying it doesn't happen, but to tell people "yeah come be a teacher at an international school in china for 35,000rmb/month" just isn't very realistic. at all.

That's about what I made in the Foreign Service in basic salary, for comparison

# ? Sep 24, 2016 09:53

Grand Fromage: Jan 30, 2006; L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?

Around here international schools pay in the low 20s. I have never heard of anyone making anything close to 35 as a starting salary. Maaaybe in like Saudi Arabia?

# ? Sep 24, 2016 10:01

simplefish: Mar 28, 2011; So long, and thanks for all the ~~fish~~ gallbladdΣrs!

The Great Autismo! posted:

35,000/month along with housing, if that's after taxes, is a pretty ridiculous pay for a regular teacher. like a history teacher making 35,000/month along with a housing stipend after taxes, that's like a 100,000 USD/year job. that's more than some university professors with PhDs make.

i'm not saying it doesn't happen, but to tell people "yeah come be a teacher at an international school in china for 35,000rmb/month" just isn't very realistic. at all.

Come to HK with a BA and postgrad, specialise in English and education in those qualifications, start at 40,000hkd up

# ? Sep 24, 2016 10:58

The Great Autismo!: Mar 3, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Bloodnose posted:

That's about what I made in the Foreign Service in basic salary, for comparison

Thx for ur comparison of two completely unrelated fields that I know nothing about

# ? Sep 24, 2016 12:58

The Great Autismo!: Mar 3, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Grand Fromage posted:

Around here international schools pay in the low 20s. I have never heard of anyone making anything close to 35 as a starting salary. Maaaybe in like Saudi Arabia?

35 is insane for a starting salary, it's definitely possible for people to make it, I'd even guess some here do, but a starting salary for a random teacher is absurd

# ? Sep 24, 2016 13:00

The Great Autismo!: Mar 3, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

yo Bloodnose if u want to measure penises hit up twm, we could all see who is doing well and compare our lives

# ? Sep 24, 2016 13:02

RocknRollaAyatollah: Nov 26, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

Bloodnose posted:

That's about what I made in the Foreign Service in basic salary, for comparison

After taxes?

# ? Sep 24, 2016 13:48

The Great Autismo!: Mar 3, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

RocknRollaAyatollah posted:

After taxes?

yeah tell us more Bloodnose you've impressed us all with your money

# ? Sep 24, 2016 13:56

Ceciltron: Jan 11, 2007; Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!; Pillbug

The Great Autismo! posted:

35 is insane for a starting salary, it's definitely possible for people to make it, I'd even guess some here do, but a starting salary for a random teacher is absurd

I for one, was over the moon when I was offered 10k RMB and an apartment to teach English. I have never seen a 35K rmb (or similar other currency) job anywhere, in Canada or elsewhere. Hell I know actual teachers here and they are not doing that well.

I'd be happy for any job, frankly.

# ? Sep 24, 2016 16:27

Tom Smykowski: Jan 27, 2005; What the hell is wrong with you people?

International schools are different, mate

# ? Sep 24, 2016 19:16

fart simpson: Jul 2, 2005; DEATH TO AMERICA

Apply for the 350k per month English teaching job, Ceciltron

# ? Sep 24, 2016 20:21

Tom Smykowski: Jan 27, 2005; What the hell is wrong with you people?

Additional Skills: Legal Expertise

# ? Sep 24, 2016 20:41

Ceciltron: Jan 11, 2007; Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!; Pillbug

fart simpson posted:

Apply for the 350k per month English teaching job, Ceciltron

Tom Smykowski posted:

Additional Skills: Legal Expertise

They haggled me down to 300k RMB and i can only afford two Sky Palaces and one driver. Should I sue?!?!

# ? Sep 24, 2016 22:46

angel opportunity: Sep 7, 2004; Total Eclipse of the Heart

Ceciltron posted:

They haggled me down to 300k RMB and i can only afford two Sky Palaces and one driver. Should I sue?!?!

lol

# ? Sep 24, 2016 22:53

Tom Smykowski: Jan 27, 2005; What the hell is wrong with you people?

angel opportunity posted:

lol

Agreed

# ? Sep 25, 2016 00:29

caberham: Mar 18, 2009; by Smythe; Grimey Drawer

Ceciltron posted:

They haggled me down to 300k RMB and i can only afford two Sky Palaces and one driver. Should I sue?!?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGdhkfUt-D8

# ? Sep 25, 2016 02:14

Atopian: Sep 23, 2014; I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

With the correct background, experience, location, and longievity, you could potentially get 35k/mo as an international school teacher. Those are not things to assume, though.

Hell, top I've heard is 50k/mo for Shanghai International, but that isn't 'a job', that's unique circumstance.
International school teaching starts at 15 at the very low end, hits 20 pretty quickly, 25 without too much trouble, then it's a slog to 30. Play your cards right and 35 is possible but not guaranteed.

# ? Sep 25, 2016 12:02

Deep State of Mind: Jul 30, 2006; "It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."; Fun Shoe

The Great Autismo! posted:

yeah tell us more Bloodnose you've impressed us all with your money

I quit my job so it's all gone

# ? Sep 25, 2016 19:47

Tom Smykowski: Jan 27, 2005; What the hell is wrong with you people?

Nerd.

# ? Sep 25, 2016 19:59

SB35: Jul 6, 2007; Move along folks, nothing to see here.

Bloodnose posted:

I quit my job so it's all gone

You made the right choice.

Although, does that mean your not in China/HK anymore?

# ? Sep 26, 2016 00:32

Deep State of Mind: Jul 30, 2006; "It was a busy day. I do not remember it all. In the morning, I thought I had lost my wallet. Then we went swimming and either overthrew a government or started a pro-American radio station. I can't really remember."; Fun Shoe

China/HK is always in my heart, and definitely my lungs

# ? Sep 26, 2016 04:34

Haier: Aug 10, 2007; by Lowtax

Since this is the travel thread...

If any lurkers are interested to travel to mainland China: First download F.lux and set it to a nice murky 2800k, and then make this video full screen and turn up the volume until your ears can't take it. This is a perfect simulation of looking out of an apartment window or from a balcony on a fresh red-level AQI day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uf2QNtYpII

# ? Sep 26, 2016 07:30