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Robot Hobo posted:This was always a no-win situation, really. Easy win: keep Tilda as The Ancient One, cast Asian Dr. Strange.
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homullus posted:Finally watched the episode last night. I immediately wondered whether the VR tech would be their defense against the ghosty thing, depending on how it works -- giving you something to look at other than the horrors it's showing you. A soulless android would also be pretty handy when you're fighting someone with a Penance Stare attack.
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Squinty posted:Easy win: keep Tilda as The Ancient One, cast Asian Dr. Strange. John Cho would've been pretty awesome. ...god, why do I irrationally dislike Cumberbatch so much? He's done nothing specifically to bother me but here we are.
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Sep 25, 2016 06:51
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He just has one of those faces, man. It's not his fault.
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homullus posted:Finally watched the episode last night. I immediately wondered whether the VR tech would be their defense against the ghosty thing, depending on how it works -- giving you something to look at other than the horrors it's showing you. Only defense against the Penance Stare is to not be a shithead. 
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Xealot posted:John Cho would've been pretty awesome. I don't think I've ever seen him be a bad actor, But I've only seen him in Sherlock, The Hobbit 2, and Star Trek 2, so I associate him with bad things.
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Guy Goodbody posted:I don't think I've ever seen him be a bad actor, But I've only seen him in Sherlock, The Hobbit 2, and Star Trek 2, so I associate him with bad things. Firstly, you take that back about Sherlock! His American accent was absolutely awful in Black Mass. His acting is always top drawer though. He would have won an Oscar for the imitation game any other year. It's not his fault that Redmayne blew it out the water in the theory of everything.
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Xealot posted:John Cho would've been pretty awesome. I'd really like to see him land somewhere in the MCU. Also Daniel Dae Kim, but he's busy on Hawaii Five-O which somehow is still running (though I'm sure a Marvel movie wouldn't get in the way of that).
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Why does everybody always forget this character exists? http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Helen_Cho Especially given the implications it has for another character showing up eventually.
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You guys are trying really hard to find something to be offended by. I can't possibly be as much fun to enjoy media if you approach every show with the attitude of 'how is this offensive to me?' The MCU isn't progressive enough because: Doesn't represent... give me a minute. You could certainly call out Hollywood for Asian representation, but this might be the worst thread, save Marco Polo, in all of TV IV to do so. CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:He just has one of those fanbases, man. It's not his fault. Fixed. Poor guy.
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You can have a discussion about racial casting without being offended, chief.
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counterfeitsaint posted:You guys are trying really hard to find something to be offended by. I can't possibly be as much fun to enjoy media if you approach every show with the attitude of 'how is this offensive to me?' In the future, instead of writing all those words, I find it easier and more effective to just call people bitch rear end chumps. Try it, you'll like it. "Stop being bitch rear end chumps."
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One thing they did do is make Wong not just a Asian Manservant but he's supposed to be one of the masters that teaches Strange.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:I would very much like to be in on this joke, as I like enjoy hu-mon laughing and "root beer." If you're referring to ultraviolet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia_(role-playing_game) quote:Paranoia features a security clearance system based on colors of the visible spectrum which heavily restricts what the players can and cannot legally do; everything from corridors to food and equipment have security restrictions. The lowest rating is Infrared, but the lowest playable security clearance is Red
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Chokes McGee posted:Only defense against the Penance Stare is to not be a shithead. Hahaha. No, not that ghosty thing, the other one. The Ark of the Covenant one.
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counterfeitsaint posted:You guys are trying really hard to find something to be offended by. I can't possibly be as much fun to enjoy media if you approach every show with the attitude of 'how is this offensive to me?' Some people do look for ways to be offended, it seems. However, I'm not sure that this is the case ITT for most posters. Azhais posted:If you're referring to ultraviolet Cool, thanks!
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There has to be some irony that the biggest reason Disney whitewashed the character of the Ancient One was to make it able to be shown in China, thereby increasing the number of Asians (including those in China-occupied Tibet) who will see the movie. It may be the only time in cinematic history that removing ethnic diversity will make it more likely to be watched by ethnic audiences.
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Oh, we're doing this? I guess we're doing this then. Let me just...counterfeitsaint posted:You guys are trying really hard to find something to be offended by. I can't possibly be as much fun to enjoy media if you approach every show with the attitude of 'how is this offensive to me?' Now, these sweeping caveats don't apply to the TV shows, but here's the thing; until proven otherwise, the TV shows have poo poo-all to do with the movies. The movies effect the TV shows, but not vice-versa, so the representation of the TV shows is inherently less valuable because by default it reaches a much smaller audience. The Marvel TV shows are doing a bang-up job on the representation front. The Marvel movies need to step the gently caress up.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Why does this thread ALWAYS return to "They just talked"???? Do you think... Fitz and... guy from The Mummy just talked? 
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Xtanstic posted:Do you think... Fitz and... guy from The Mummy just talked? Nah, they're going to a new show soon. They already put out the intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm-upHSP9KU
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Falun Bong Refugee posted:In the future, instead of writing all those words, I find it easier and more effective to just call people bitch rear end chumps. Try it, you'll like it. "Stop being bitch rear end chumps." Stop being a bitch rear end chump
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Spergatory posted:Oh, we're doing this? I guess we're doing this then. Let me just... Oh thank god. I knew if we just tried hard enough. I'll start an online petition, you handle the twitter campaign.
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counterfeitsaint posted:Oh thank god. I knew if we just tried hard enough. I'll start an online petition, you handle the twitter campaign. "I'll just crack wise! That means I win!"
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Fitz keeping the robot secret from Jemma can't lead to good things. Hopefully, the writers aren't reading from Arrow/Flash's "Use Secret's to Cause Relationship Drama" tutorial for sucking the fun out of shows.
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dump jemma for robot pls
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The robot is an obvious lead in to LMDs. Whether that's a good thing or not is up in the air. I'm optimistic that they won't go the Arrow route with the whole relationship drama, since they haven't before and the show has a pretty good track record (barring the first half of season 1) Floppychop fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Sep 26, 2016 |
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Spergatory posted:Oh, we're doing this? I guess we're doing this then. Let me just... If tv shows don't count then wtf are you talking about as regards ninjas?
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Zzulu posted:dump jemma for robot pls Dump Jemma for LMD Jemma. (If Jed is anything like Joss, that's going to happen. Killing Jemma and replacing her with a doppelgänger for Fitz to be maudlin about is the most Whedon thing possible. "Why can't I stay?")
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Too bad there's no more Ward for LMD Jemma to punch until his head explode while craddling a dead Fitz. Edit: Meanwhile, Coulson punches Fing Fang Foom with his robohand.
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Xtanstic posted:Do you think... Fitz and... guy from The Mummy just talked? There is going to be an awful lot of... unseemly... experimentation with that LMD prototype.
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Wade Wilson posted:There is going to be an awful lot of... unseemly... experimentation with that LMD prototype. Nonsense, she's completely naked because he was just plugging in some hardware The hardware is his penis Zythrst posted:If tv shows don't count then wtf are you talking about as regards ninjas? Daredevil Season 2 Which was a sad mess. It was 4 episodes of a great Punisher story, a few episodes of a good Daredevil story, and then it went full bore into aimlessness with NINJAS EVERYWHERE. However it was also the season that made me realize Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was a chief parody of Daredevil more than anything else. I always thought it was a parody of other Marvel stuff. ED: Still worth watching and if you haven't seen DD Season 1, go sign up for Netflix because that was a stellar, tight season. The change in show runner hurt, a lot. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Sep 26, 2016 |
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sticklefifer posted:I'd really like to see him land somewhere in the MCU. Also Daniel Dae Kim, but he's busy on Hawaii Five-O which somehow is still running (though I'm sure a Marvel movie wouldn't get in the way of that). I still want them to cast the guy who played the Viper on GOT. I've thought he's a perfect fit for SOME Marvel character since his brief, memorable impression. I know Narcos is doing well, but that guy is just walking charisma that's perfect for the genre.
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Blazing Ownager posted:
Don't forget the other shows like Jessica Jones and Luke Cage. Netflix also have all the previous seasons of AoS, and the best comic book show iZombie.
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Blazing Ownager posted:Daredevil Season 2 He was asking if TV shows don't count, then the ninjas don't count either.
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Heh. Ninjas. They're wacky.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Heh. Ninjas. More afraid of you than you are of them
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boy this sure is a bad conversation, can't wait for the next episode of this good show to come out, though!
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kayakyakr posted:He was asking if TV shows don't count, then the ninjas don't count either. Well, I didn't say the TV shows don't count. I said they count less because they reach a much smaller audience, so the presence of representation in the shows does not automatically invalidate any representation-based criticism of the MCU. But you're right, the ninjas are from a tv show and I was supposed to be talking about the movies. At the time, I actually couldn't remember any Asian characters in the movies at all, but now that I've had a chance to think on it, I guess there's...uhh, the one Asian doctor lady in Age of Ultron? And the mandatory Asian in Captain America's Ethnically Diverse Band of Brothers. Am I missing anyone?
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Spergatory posted:Well, I didn't say the TV shows don't count. I said they count less because they reach a much smaller audience, so the presence of representation in the shows does not automatically invalidate any representation-based criticism of the MCU. Thor's asian friend? Helen Cho is at least a potentially very important character in the long run if she wasn't just a random choice to take from the comics.
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Yes, stories that use old comic book characters (like the Avengers) tend to lack diversity. Hence why Ms. Marvel and Jane FosThor and the new Ririron WoMan and Falcon Captain America and keeping Miles Morales around and Cho Hulk and the huge push for Black Panther are all steps in the right direction, and I'm 100% certain they will be worked into the larger MCU. Whether that's to replace RDJ and Chris Evans so that the money train never stops, or whether it's to actually address the social issues of framing the bulk of heroes as white dudes, I dunno. Not sure if the intent matters compared to the results. I guess I'm saying that Marvel is fully aware of this issue, and has taken action to address it. They catch quite a bit of flak for it as well, based on little glimpses of internet reactions I see. It still absolutely sucks that it took until recently to get this push though, and it's really just the first step. It's a wobbly situation, and I really hope Marvel will continue to value inclusivity in their characters over the dollars of racist readers. I'd imagine that's the best thing for their bottom line, so...
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