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Zore posted:There were a ton of tweaks to power/pp.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Which is one of the few things giving me hope that for gen 8 they decide "gently caress it" and go full stat-rebalance. Let the mons with sweet types or sweet art or sweet abilities get some actually good stat distributions without alternate Formes or whatever! You don't even have to change IVs (although they should probably just make IVs useless, let you pick your HP type, and guarantee max stats on every mon, but I'm a grognard) or anything, just base stats. IVs are already useless, unless Hyper Training turns out to be super limited.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Which is one of the few things giving me hope that for gen 8 they decide "gently caress it" and go full stat-rebalance. Let the mons with sweet types or sweet art or sweet abilities get some actually good stat distributions without alternate Formes or whatever! You don't even have to change IVs (although they should probably just make IVs useless, let you pick your HP type, and guarantee max stats on every mon, but I'm a grognard) or anything, just base stats. They already changed base stats in Gen VI you know. http://www.serebii.net/xy/updatedstats.shtml Its a really weird cross-section of pokemon.
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Sep 26, 2016 21:08
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Zore posted:I guarantee HMs are still going to be in. Nobody is saying that they're going away. What has been suggested is that they're going to lose the 'HM' designation and the lovely "deleted only by a move deleter" flag.
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Supremezero posted:IVs are already useless, unless Hyper Training turns out to be super limited. Isn't that for EVs not IVs? Edit: Oh I messed up, I was thinking of the successor to super training but Hyper Training is the bottle caps stuff specifically for IVs.
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Sep 26, 2016 21:12
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I just accidentally ran from a shiny while horde EV training because I got the wrong horde
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Sep 26, 2016 21:12
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cheetah7071 posted:I just accidentally ran from a shiny while horde EV training because I got the wrong horde Who was it? Found a shiny Gligar this way; perfectly useless battle-wise but I like his blue coloring (and Gliscor's blue and yellow).
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It was Gligar Defense EVs would have ruined my training but gently caress I have reset bags. I didn't even notice it until after I had hit run
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Sep 26, 2016 21:16
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cheetah7071 posted:It was Gligar I'll trade you mine for another shiny if you want. I'd have been ecstatic if it wound up with Poison Heal but it just has Hyper Cutter.
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Sep 26, 2016 21:25
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This was literally the second non-Gyarados shiny I'd ever seen so I think I'll just hold onto my Hippopotas, but thanks for offering.
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Thanks for the tips, folks.Chill Penguin posted:Gallade is gen 4 isn't it? Mean Look/Hypnosis/False Swipe/T-Wave This sound like an interesting project. A couple questions tho (this is gen 4, yes): 1) Do I let Ralts learn Hypnosis at level 43 or Kirlia at level 50? 2) What is the most convenient way to get Thunder Wave unto a Ralts or one of it's evolutions? I did some quick research on Bulbapedia and it seems Platinum has Battle Frontier where I can buy the TM for 32 BP. I can also go back to Emerald (and do all the breeding for Mean Look there) and go to a Battle Frontier move tutor for 48 BP. I have access to both Battle Frontiers but I have not touched them so far... which offers the most easy access to BP? I'll probably just need to dive in and mess around with them, but if there's an straightforward answer I'll gladly take it.
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Zore posted:That was part of a weird nerf to special attacks with 90+ power across the board. Some things benefited (Energy Ball went from 80->90, Power Gem 70->80) but Surf/Flamethrower/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt went from 95->90 and Hydro Pump/Blizzard/Thunder/Fire Blast went from 120->110. They also gave a lot of pokemon somewhat arbitrary 10 point stat boosts. Some it made sense for, like Poliwrath getting up to 95 Attack, but others were kind of random like Azumarill getting a Special Attack boost.
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Another reason for the special nerf is because there's no Burn equivalent for special attack.
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This is not an invitation to mention Poison being worse than Toxic.
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Sep 26, 2016 21:39
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Geostomp posted:They also gave a lot of pokemon somewhat arbitrary 10 point stat boosts. Some it made sense for, like Poliwrath getting up to 95 Attack, but others were kind of random like Azumarill getting a Special Attack boost. Maybe they were trying to pretend to make non-Huge Power Azumarill viable.
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Sep 26, 2016 21:39
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Poison is worse than toxic.
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Slate Action posted:I want them to return to a Gen 1 philosophy with respect to your rival. In my mind the essential qualities of a Pokemon rival are: Until he becomes champ the gen 1's rival's Blastoise's only water move is loving water gun. He's got a decent team but honestly he's not that tough.
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Supremezero posted:Maybe they were trying to pretend to make non-Huge Power Azumarill viable. it went from 50->60. there are literally starter pokemon with higher attacking stats. its just 
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Until he becomes champ the gen 1's rival's Blastoise's only water move is loving water gun. He's got a decent team but honestly he's not that tough. He has mad style points though.
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Sep 26, 2016 21:55
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I can see why Energy Ball got buffed. It used to be the go to special grass move, until Giga Drain got buffed to 75 BP in Gen V. 5 less BP for a draining move was a very nice trade off.
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Sep 26, 2016 23:01
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Buff my boys Tauros and Kingler by giving them good STAB sheer force options.
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Sep 26, 2016 23:27
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Decus posted:Buff my boys Tauros and Kingler by giving them good STAB sheer force options. I Just bred a Tauros and saw the recommended STAB was Rock Climb to make use of Sheer Force. Would be nice if it could get Body Slam, or if the increased crit rate attacks applied to Sheer Force.
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I just caught a shiny, adamant Pidgey in the HG Safari Zone and I have no idea what to do with it.
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PSWII60 posted:I can't really be the only person that didn't really mind having to use HM's can I? gating progress by having a skill you need to learn is fine, but having that skill be semi permanent on your 4 slot move list is not. especially when there have been way more bad hm moves than good ones good hm moves: surf, waterfall, ???
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Manatee Cannon posted:gating progress by having a skill you need to learn is fine, but having that skill be semi permanent on your 4 slot move list is not. especially when there have been way more bad hm moves than good ones The other side of it is that their answer to HMs were making them non-vital, except for Surf a bit, which meant more artificial roadblocks or just items blocked off by an HM you probably won't carry until you do a sweep. The pokeride system appears to add more natural roadblocks and more expansive side areas since all you need to progress is to have earned the pokeride, so no more worries about little timmy trying to get rid of his only surfing pokemon, instead worry about making Timmy want to try surfing anywhere and get rewarded for it.
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Timmy couldn't get rid of his only surfing pokemon, though. The move deleter has never been in a town you could only access via HM and you can't release a boxed pokemon with an HM.
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Decus posted:Timmy couldn't get rid of his only surfing pokemon, though. The move deleter has never been in a town you could only access via HM and you can't release a boxed pokemon with an HM. You can transfer pokemon with HMs to the pokebank though
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Decus posted:Timmy couldn't get rid of his only surfing pokemon, though. The move deleter has never been in a town you could only access via HM and you can't release a boxed pokemon with an HM. He was more saying that in reference to never being allowed to just over-wright HM moves.
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Decus posted:Timmy couldn't get rid of his only surfing pokemon, though. The move deleter has never been in a town you could only access via HM and you can't release a boxed pokemon with an HM. Yeah, just saying that the team won't have to design around that, like having the Move Deleter at an accessible spot for all, make sure you can't do poo poo to a pokemon with HM moves and then still forget the PokeBank trumps it. Instead all that brain power goes into how to make the HM replacement even more fun
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I never understood why it even mattered that you could overwrite an hm move when the hm itself was permanent you could just reteach the pokemon to use strength or whatever if you need to use it
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Manatee Cannon posted:I never understood why it even mattered that you could overwrite an hm move when the hm itself was permanent Possibly a consequence of Gen I's terrible inventory system? Since you don't want to be carrying around all the HMs.
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Manatee Cannon posted:I never understood why it even mattered that you could overwrite an hm move when the hm itself was permanent You could deposit HMs in the PC through gen IV or V. Also, there can be weird edge cases with things like Surfing Pikachu and other event mons where if you delete it you wouldn't be able to relearn it. Or if you hacked it onto a pokemon that doesn't normally learn it. In general, you'd be shocked how often you can run into dumb edge cases when making a game for children.
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I hope sun and moon have built in pokebank support so you don't have to go through a lovely external program every time
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cheetah7071 posted:I hope sun and moon have built in pokebank support so you don't have to go through a lovely external program every time I have bad news for you.
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cheetah7071 posted:I hope sun and moon have built in pokebank support so you don't have to go through a lovely external program every time same but pokegen
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Sep 27, 2016 00:55
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also showdown
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Sep 27, 2016 00:56
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More Totodile, because why not? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA8THjivCPE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mgpHYlZ2zg As much as people claim the anime got gud lately, I hate that it has become nothing more than an ad for the games with Ash only using new Pokes to that Gen and never bringing his best friend Totodile back.
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I think the word "become" is out of place there.
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Why do you have the exact same fight against Serena/Calem three times in a row?
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because your friend group sucks in xy
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