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Reason posted:yeah, probably. I'm not a big fan of Hillary Clinton or either the Democratic or Republican party in general. I can without any doubts say that Hillary destroyed Donald Trump, but I feel like almost anyone with any sort of public speaking debate background and a reasonable prep team could have blown Donald up at this point. The scary thing about Hillary(in this debate, to me) is how sure she sounds when she talks about military action in the Middle East. I really, really wish she was debating a real candidate because ugh I just want to hear some actual arguments. I agree with you in that it would be nice to have an actual debate between two qualified candidates. If you are genuinely wondering how Trump got to where he is, I still suggest going out and voting HRC to cancel out one of his voters. A third party vote may send the message that both parties are equally as bad; an HRC blowout sends the message that the Republican party needs to compete on substance.
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Al! posted:beer pouring through the estate over your grandmother's paisley shawl New Kool Keith album sounding good.
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Sep 27, 2016 06:31
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The Ninth Layer posted:A third party vote may send the message that both parties are equally as bad Nope
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oystertoadfish posted:also the fact that i didnt see this in the thread means im either a dumbass who didnt notice it or its not real but lol
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Popular Thug Drink posted:it's actually an advantage in some forms of business to be a double mouthed sociopath. trump got his first big deal by convincing lenders he had secured tax breaks, and then went and secured the tax breaks by pointing out all the lenders he had lined up. he lied until the deal worked, and it doesn't matter who said what behind closed doors He was doing it wrong, but the right way to do it was that after you sell them the software, you then sell them long term support contracts, so you guys can
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Sep 27, 2016 06:33
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Dr.Zeppelin posted:last time around i perfectly timed the msnbc-fox switchover to get the megny kelly rovecucking of a generation but i can't imagine i can be blindly lucky twice in a row Last time, I horribly hosed up my dinner, didn't order in food, and then drank 3/4 of a handle of vodka on an empty stomach.
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Sep 27, 2016 06:36
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I loving died laughing when this happened during the debate
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Sep 27, 2016 06:37
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Sep 27, 2016 06:42
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Cnut the Great posted:If James Carville is so smart why is he married to a libertarian Trump supporter? Because they break three beds a year having make up sex.
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Sep 27, 2016 06:45
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I don't know how Grover Norquist got obsessed with vaping, but I'm glad it's made him look even more ridiculous
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Sep 27, 2016 06:52
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Trump Brags About Properties really needs to be on the bingo card for the next debate. How many times did he go on some diversion about specific properties he owned? Four?
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Sep 27, 2016 06:52
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Well my old lady is puking all over the bathroom since we played a drinking game and went through 2 bottles of gin so I guess that really does go to show that women have no place in politics.
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Sep 27, 2016 06:52
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jarofpiss posted:Well my old lady is puking all over the bathroom since we played a drinking game and went through 2 bottles of gin so I guess that really does go to show that women have no place in politics. Made America Great Again
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Sep 27, 2016 06:54
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mdemone posted:I know right? An "anti police judge", Jesus loving Christ His actual words were "an against police judge".
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Sep 27, 2016 06:55
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So any idea on what the ratings were like? I know they're practically guaranteed to finish the first season, but I don't know if I want a s2
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Sep 27, 2016 07:01
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A jpeg of words for you: I didn't see the thing because it was at 3am, but was everything Trump said weird and disjointed like this? Because lol
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Sep 27, 2016 07:09
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C-SPAM: We came in with an internet, we came up with the internet
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Sep 27, 2016 07:10
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Keg posted:I didn't see the thing because it was at 3am, but was everything Trump said weird and disjointed like this? Because lol A lot of it was hard to follow craziness.
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Sep 27, 2016 07:13
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Keg posted:I didn't see the thing because it was at 3am, but was everything Trump said weird and disjointed like this? Because lol
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Sep 27, 2016 07:12
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Keg posted:A jpeg of words for you: yeah he'd go off-topic and ramble constantly the funny thing is in hillary's rebuttal she didn't even get to the sanders part of that word salad, he'd throw 3 or 4 different angles at once during his turn and then she'd get to focus on the easiest answer
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Sep 27, 2016 07:15
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"That's business" and "that makes me smart" could have ended up so much bloodier. I wish she had bitten down and thrashed on those two stupid quips. "Get a load of Welfare Queen over here!" 
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TRUMP: Well, I have to say that, you know, for what Secretary Clinton was saying about nuclear with Russia, she's very cavalier in the way she talks about various countries. But Russia has been expanding their -- they have a much newer capability than we do. We have not been updating from the new standpoint. I looked the other night. I was seeing B-52s, they're old enough that your father, your grandfather could be flying them. We are not -- we are not keeping up with other countries. I would like everybody to end it, just get rid of it. But I would certainly not do first strike. I think that once the nuclear alternative happens, it's over. At the same time, we have to be prepared. I can't take anything off the table. Because you look at some of these countries, you look at North Korea, we're doing nothing there. China should solve that problem for us. China should go into North Korea. China is totally powerful as it relates to North Korea. And by the way, another one powerful is the worst deal I think I've ever seen negotiated that you started is the Iran deal. Iran is one of their biggest trading partners. Iran has power over North Korea. And when they made that horrible deal with Iran, they should have included the fact that they do something with respect to North Korea. And they should have done something with respect to Yemen and all these other places. And when asked to Secretary Kerry, why didn't you do that? Why didn't you add other things into the deal? One of the great giveaways of all time, of all time, including $400 million in cash. Nobody's ever seen that before. That turned out to be wrong. It was actually $1.7 billion in cash, obviously, I guess for the hostages. It certainly looks that way. So you say to yourself, why didn't they make the right deal? This is one of the worst deals ever made by any country in history. The deal with Iran will lead to nuclear problems. All they have to do is sit back 10 years, and they don't have to do much. HOLT: Your two minutes is expired.
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Keg posted:A jpeg of words for you: seriously, what the gently caress is your point, Trump~ 
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Keg posted:I didn't see the thing because it was at 3am, but was everything Trump said weird and disjointed like this? Because lol That was probably his most coherent answer up to that point, actually.
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Sep 27, 2016 07:16
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rudatron posted:Can the second debate be any more of a shitshow, is the real question we have now "Binders full of women" was from the second debate, so yes.
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Sep 27, 2016 07:17
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You know what really gets me about this debate? Even with all of Donald's crazy, incoherent answers - he was just loving boring. Hillary was much more interesting to watch.
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Sep 27, 2016 07:21
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TRUMP: Lester, one thing I'd like to say. HOLT: Very quickly. Twenty seconds. TRUMP: I will go very quickly. But I will tell you that Hillary will tell you to go to her website and read all about how to defeat ISIS, which she could have defeated by never having it, you know, get going in the first place. Right now, it's getting tougher and tougher to defeat them, because they're in more and more places, more and more states, more and more nations. HOLT: Mr. Trump... TRUMP: And it's a big problem. And as far as Japan is concerned, I want to help all of our allies, but we are losing billions and billions of dollars. We cannot be the policemen of the world. We cannot protect countries all over the world... HOLT: We have just... TRUMP: ... where they're not paying us what we need. HOLT: We have just a few final questions... TRUMP: And she doesn't say that, because she's got no business ability. We need heart. We need a lot of things. But you have to have some basic ability. And sadly, she doesn't have that. All of the things that she's talking about could have been taken care of during the last 10 years, let's say, while she had great power. But they weren't taken care of. And if she ever wins this race, they won't be taken care of.
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Sep 27, 2016 07:22
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I don't believe Trump knows what 'America's long-standing policy on first use' is and I wish Hillary had called him on it. His response was word salad.
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Sep 27, 2016 07:25
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Reason posted:The scary thing about Hillary(in this debate, to me) is how sure she sounds when she talks about military action in the Middle East. I really, really wish she was debating a real candidate because ugh I just want to hear some actual arguments. Barack Obama retroactively earned his Nobel Peace Prize keeping America from declaring WWIII over Syria; a nation of no strategic significance considering Turkey's NATO membership, and possessed of no resources we didn't murder millions to secure for business interests during the Cold War, all so Jahbat al-Nusra and Ansar al-Sharia can genocide the Alawites in a Salafist purge which makes the depredations of ISIS look like a loving dress rehearsal all so that a handful of D&D posters and DC wonks can momentarily fill the emotional abyss in their personal lives. Too bad about what'll happen in *checks watch* four months or so.
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The Ninth Layer posted:TRUMP: Well, I have to say that, you know, for what Secretary Clinton was saying about nuclear with Russia, she's very cavalier in the way she talks about various countries. But Russia has been expanding their -- they have a much newer capability than we do. We have not been updating from the new standpoint.
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Instant Sunrise posted:"Binders full of women" was from the second debate, so yes. Reminder that the second debate is a town hall. Voters are going to get to ask them questions directly. Yup.
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Peztopiary posted:I don't believe Trump knows what 'America's long-standing policy on first use' is and I wish Hillary had called him on it. When is his response ever not word salad? The Washington post long form interview from awhile back is the best for it because they keep pressing him until he relents and says he doesn't know details but has top experts, the best experts, looking into it.
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paranoid randroid posted:lets all meditate on the sputtering rage of pathetic subnormalty getting slaughtered by a dead-rear end woman
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Moon Atari posted:When is his response ever not word salad? The Washington post long form interview from awhile back is the best for it because they keep pressing him until he relents and says he doesn't know details but has top experts, the best experts, looking into it. that's how bay of pigs happened just saying
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HOLT: Mr. Trump, very quickly, same question. Will you accept the outcome as the will of the voters? TRUMP: I want to make America great again. We are a nation that is seriously troubled. We're losing our jobs. People are pouring into our country. The other day, we were deporting 800 people. And perhaps they passed the wrong button, they pressed the wrong button, or perhaps worse than that, it was corruption, but these people that we were going to deport for good reason ended up becoming citizens. Ended up becoming citizens. And it was 800. And now it turns out it might be 1,800, and they don't even know. HOLT: Will you accept the outcome of the election? TRUMP: Look, here's the story. I want to make America great again. I'm going to be able to do it. I don't believe Hillary will. The answer is, if she wins, I will absolutely support her.
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Sep 27, 2016 07:36
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I can't wait to see what shook Trump does between now and the next debate.
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Sep 27, 2016 07:38
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Peztopiary posted:I can't wait to see what shook Trump does between now and the next debate. He'll probably say some things, go to rallies, maybe do some tweeting. That's my best guess.
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He is going to get invitations to literally every show to explain what exactly he meant by any of the near-Markov-chain quality words he chose to use tonight.
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Sep 27, 2016 07:41
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Who knew eating burgers and coming up with zingers was a bad way to prepare for a debate.
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trump's ideas are perfectly sensible. here's a quick flowchart if you dummies are having trouble:
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