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Bedshaped posted:Starting to become seriously disillusioned with the political process in this country. We came out of this recession like nothing even happened and went straight back to the status quo. Emigration is becoming more attractive every day. They want young people to emigrate from sheer disillusionment, because if they didn't, they might get desperate/bitter enough to vote for the shinners or an actual leftist group. I do recall a former Welfare minister extolling the virtues of young people getting the gently caress out of the country. Can't remember his/her name though.
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# ? Sep 4, 2016 04:09 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 09:24 |
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Wasn't that Joan Burton? Encouraged young, unemployed people to gently caress off to other countries for work.
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# ? Sep 4, 2016 14:14 |
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Marenghi posted:Wasn't that Joan Burton? Encouraged young, unemployed people to gently caress off to other countries for work. Yep, literally sent out letters to the unemployed saying "you know, there's jobs in Norway..."
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# ? Sep 4, 2016 22:17 |
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Bryter posted:Yep, literally sent out letters to the unemployed saying "you know, there's jobs in Norway..." more fool you, not anymore
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 02:28 |
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Stephen Donnelly looks to be leaving the Social Democrats. I really liked him, came off as very informed on the issues and intelligent. Death of the soft left and all that.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 12:59 |
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Bedshaped posted:Stephen Donnelly looks to be leaving the Social Democrats. I really liked him, came off as very informed on the issues and intelligent. Seeing some folks speculating that his decision to leave may revolve around the party taking a firmer line on refusing to appeal the apple ruling than he was willing to. He put out a piece in the sindo calling for a softly softly approach highlighting concerns that not appealing could threaten the corporation tax level, seemingly at odds with more robust statements from Shortall and Murphy who said appealing would be immoral.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 19:22 |
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Reddit's saying there are rumors he's gonna join FF or is being poached, but then again it's and I don't see how an independent would willingly commit political suicide like that. I like how this whole EU Competition ruling has seemingly turned a huge section of the Irish establishment eurosceptic overnight, something that years of austerity failed to do. School Nickname fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Sep 5, 2016 |
# ? Sep 5, 2016 20:13 |
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I think Murphy&Shorthall's more left-wing economic positions were always in conflict with Donnelly. I know support for the LUAS drivers was an issue, and Apple's tax this week is being mentioned as being the straw that broke the camel's back. It's a shame, because I think without Donnelly dragging the SDs slightly to the middle they may fall gradually into the general-left-wing milieu. Where they'll struggle for attention/support against the wide variety of parties already there. I don't think he'll remain as a true independent after tasting the national stage in the last election. I'd wager hes more likely to join the IA than FF, though.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 21:41 |
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Marenghi posted:Any chance of hearing one of these horror stories. Have none myself on Apple, but I can take up the mantle on Cork call centre horror stories in general seeing as nobody else has appeared to. During a lamentably extended period of my 20's, I worked in a call centre in Cork named Abtran, aka Scabtran, aka (my best friend's creation) Abtranistan. Now, Abtran are quite often in the news due to entering into lucrative contracts with big name companies such as Irish Water, Taxi Regulator, and, painfully, Sky Digital; outside of that, they are renowned in Cork for having an extremely high staff turnover rate due to their lovely conditions and even shittier pay. While in employment in Abtran: -your toilet breaks are timed; -you are not allowed to talk to the people sitting next to you; you must be constantly on the phone, making each call a sale; -if you are on certain departments of a contract (I'll use my own experience on the New Customer department of the Sky Digital contract for example) you are expected to have a minimum of 60% sales out of your calls, every day, every week, every month. If you have even one day where you don't get 60%, you get hauled in to a meeting about your sales technique by management. Oh, and people calling the wrong department work against your 60%. It's your fault, even when it's not; -even though you're entitled to up to 50 days of holidays per year, the first weekday of every month is a mad scramble by people with even only 3 days left to use to book the days off before they're gone. If you don't get the days booked on time, you don't get time off at all. No questions, no debate; if you don't fight for the time off, you don't get it; -you MUST make every call a sale, even when there's absolutely no chance of it being a sale; -all your calls are monitored, even personal calls; -no internet access outside of Sky Digital's website; -the suggestion box is the shredder (I poo poo you not. I'm not even being sarcastic on this one, and the Team Leaders certainly weren't either); - if you get harrassed or yelled at by a customer, you have to just take it. You can't hang up on them, no matter how bad it gets; I could go on, but I think I've said enough. I'm waiting for the day that a breaking news alert will pop up on my phone telling me that someone in there has gone apeshit and killed their colleagues. It's the kind of environment that fosters that mindset.
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# ? Sep 5, 2016 22:23 |
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To think a former schoolmate I met was advertising GREAT BENEFITS *rattles them off* plus I get a bonus if I snag you Apple tech support/call center jobs. Jesus.
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 01:13 |
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Referral bonuses are a thing in every multinational. I know Apple's call centre is the holy grail for many expats as it pays 26k in the door and the conditions are alright as long as you can put up with the odd people who work there (cultists).
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# ? Sep 6, 2016 07:54 |
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So how's the commute? Increasing chatter that FG may have officially lost patience with John Halligan who's always been one of the more grumpy IA TDs. Talk of him leaving government soonish over the expansion of coronary services at Wexford Hospital (which he stumped for but which an advisory report say is unnecessary). RTE saying there may be a deal on a second review but the Irish Times have some grumpier FG sources, what with recent clashes with the IA over Apple and the roll-over on not pushing for a unified cabinet vote on the 6th amendment repeal there may be some angling in FG for Kenny to take a tougher stance with the Independents. http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/fine-gael-patience-for-difficult-john-halligan-wears-thin-1.2783402 If Halligan leaves, Donnelly in?
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 10:13 |
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That would be rather opportune timing wouldn't it? What're the odds... There are some interesting backroom dealings going on right now I'd wager.
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# ? Sep 8, 2016 17:08 |
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Blut posted:That would be rather opportune timing wouldn't it? What're the odds... I don't really know if it is an opportune time. Pros, getting in before the budget, cons, getting in before a budget with a coalition government that is probably not going to last very much longer. Then again if TDs like Halligan who are essentially fringe or single-issue TDs are getting pushed out maybe the coalition is more likely to survive the next year.
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 09:03 |
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Opportune timing for FG, I meant. They can play hardball with Halligan knowing they have a possible replacement in the wings. For Donnelly, yeah its a bit more questionable. Hes clearly very interested in getting into government, but if it falls in the short/medium-term will it have a negative effect on his standing in Wicklow? Harris already hoovers up a lot of the pro-government support in Greystones, I'm not sure theres room for a second "government" TD there.
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# ? Sep 9, 2016 13:42 |
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"The Indo posted:I Will Rain Hell On This Government Halligan has gone a bit mad
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# ? Sep 11, 2016 15:29 |
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That escalated quickly. Last I read about it was he would play nice and appeal the decision with a second review. I guess that got ruled out.
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# ? Sep 11, 2016 15:41 |
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Marenghi posted:That escalated quickly. Last I read about it was he would play nice and appeal the decision with a second review. I guess that got ruled out. Yeah, there where reports a second review had been agreed to placate him. If this his attempt to play the big man and spin this as him defeating the government by standing up to them it may backfire, that kind of talk from a cabinet minister is going to rankle more than a few people in FG who's patience is already wearing thin.
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# ? Sep 11, 2016 15:49 |
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Mary Mitchell O'Connor proposes lower taxes for returning emigrants in 'specialist' sectors. Never going to happen but it blows my mind it was suggested. It would increase inequality massively and I'm certain it would just incentivise people to leave as well.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 13:31 |
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Why are they trying to attract people back? Aside from the health service there aren't too many labour shortages. Also, where will these people live?
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 13:35 |
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They will live in shoeboxes for €700+ a month in Dublin, and will magically vote for the FF/FG crowd who made them leave the country. Sad thing is that this isn't too far away from the truth.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 13:46 |
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My gf had some talk-show on on the background on RTE yesterday evening and they were talking about the bus strikes and I swear to god I could have reached through the tv and smacked one of the guys they had on. The way that people react to strikers/public sector workers in Ireland is completely hosed. There is always, always some moron that says "Well other people are working for x a week for y hours so you should be happy with z", never-mind Dublin is one of the most loving expensive cities in Europe in the middle of a rental crisis, which, as a matter of fact, is creating a massive transfer of wealth from the working/middle class to the upper classes. There seems to be a complete deficit of eloquent speakers on these kinds of issues who can just stand up and make a cogent argument highlighting the benefits of strong unions, tackling income inequality or to say that we should be striving for a society where everyone, regardless of their socioeconomic status/qualification, can work 40-45 hour weeks and afford to buy a home and to start a family. If there ever was some kind of concept of "solidarity" in Ireland it seems long loving dead at this stage and people will just poo poo all over unions the second it personally inconveniences them. The government's completely inability to do anything (edit: substantial) for renters is annoying me as well. Was listening to Newstalk the other day and they had the housing minister on and when he was asked about renters he was like "Urhrhhhhrhrh .... well you know ... we have an action plan in six months time". Yeah loving right you do, your action plan is to sit in your office and fist yourself to climax while the working/middle class get hosed.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 15:39 |
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Why would they want to solve the rental crisis. The politicians in charge are the upper classes benefiting from the massive transfer of wealth you mentioned.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 16:58 |
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julian assflange posted:Why are they trying to attract people back? Aside from the health service there aren't too many labour shortages. Also, where will these people live? So that when FG are canvassing next they can tell older voters whos children have had to emigrate that FG are now doing their best to bring the children home. It's completely ridiculous on a practical level of course, but you can't deny theres some cold hard electoral logic behind it. The inequality of a two tier tax system, a lack of jobs, a lack of available suitable housing...why let these mere "facts" get in the way of a good vote winning exercise for FG?
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 17:29 |
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So who makes Michael Healey-Rae's cap?
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# ? Oct 13, 2016 21:27 |
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Like no on could have imagined, the new 20,000 help to buy scheme caused developers to add at least 20,000 to asking price of eligible homes. http://www.daft.ie/wicklow/new-homes-for-sale/thorndale-delgany-wicklow-61603/ You can see the price difference on the cache of this but the person who updated this ad wasn't smart enough to change the price in the description. So you can see the difference in price since yesterday.
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# ? Oct 13, 2016 21:44 |
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Not much gets me pissed off but housing really pisses me off.
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# ? Oct 15, 2016 21:46 |
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IRexit talk on the radio this morning. Actually worried it may happen. Some woman rambled random poo poo which would be solved if we followed the U.K. out of Europe.
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# ? Jan 23, 2017 09:27 |
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julian assflange posted:IRexit talk on the radio this morning. Actually worried it may happen. Some woman rambled random poo poo which would be solved if we followed the U.K. out of Europe. It wouldn't be the most terrible idea in the world. Unlike the UK the Irish government is actually dictated to by Brussels technocrats. It's also the best way out of the Euro. I mean, there are a lot of negatives, but unlike the UK which was in the best position imaginable and decided to shoot itself to spite Germany with the bill for cleaning their blood out of the carpet, Ireland potentially has something to gain.
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# ? Jan 23, 2017 09:43 |
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What would we gain?
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# ? Jan 23, 2017 10:26 |
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Which station was this? The Irish establishment and public sector will never give up the euros in their bank accounts, and their ability to go on 5+ trips a year to Tenerife/Greece. I just don't see it happening. The State Aid ruling by the Commission might have turned some people Eurosceptic overnight, but I feel the Euro/trade/tourism aspects of membership is just too attractive to a lot of people. About a week ago, I heard a clip of some woman on Drivetime emphasising much greater trade with the Continent, pretty much saying "better start learning German folks". Might have to whip out the old German vocabulary copy...
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# ? Jan 23, 2017 10:48 |
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It was on Morning Ireland who played some interview Nigel Farage had with another station. The sound bytes from people in the street were RTE, though
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julian assflange posted:IRexit talk on the radio this morning. Actually worried it may happen. Some woman rambled random poo poo which would be solved if we followed the U.K. out of Europe.
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# ? Jan 23, 2017 10:59 |
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So how much longer do we give Kenny/the government after the last week of panicked flailing? 6 months seems optimistic, some of the murmuring from the FG back benches seems to favour a change of leadership sooner rather than later (though they've been saying that since before Christmas) and I'm not sure FF have the stomach to sit out another scandal like they've done this week - especially if their 11 point polling leads dips after they sit out tomorrows vote
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 19:30 |
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It's quite incredible, all of it. Hope the Garda Commish gets dragged down with the ship
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 19:46 |
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julian assflange posted:It's quite incredible, all of it. Hope the Garda Commish gets dragged down with the ship Then we can have another scandal about a commissioner resigning like last time Its the gift that keeps on giving
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 19:47 |
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RTE posted:The Dáil has passed a Fine Gael motion of confidence in the Government, tabled in response to Sinn Féin's motion of no confidence announced over the handling of the response to the Sgt Maurice McCabe affair.
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# ? Feb 16, 2017 00:24 |
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RTE posted:Senior Fine Gael figures believe Enda Kenny will quit as party leader within days as he faces the unedifying prospect of a no confidence motion, writes RTÉ's Mícheál Lehane. https://mobile.twitter.com/morningireland/status/832150234117656576 Looks like old Enda's done. May last till after the state visit to the US for Paddy's day but looks like he's a goner kustomkarkommando fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Feb 16, 2017 |
# ? Feb 16, 2017 11:22 |
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Kenny has been on the ropes for years now but I'm not sure FG remembers how to function without him. I think he'll last until the next general election in a few weeks time.
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# ? Feb 16, 2017 12:12 |
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People worried that this isn't a good time for an election because of the Brexit négociations. Wouldn't make a difference they have done gently caress all about it other than talk about the border.
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# ? Feb 16, 2017 12:41 |