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SocketWrench posted:Seems to be the standard among the republican aligned. Trump tried passing that bullshit on tonight and Hillary shot him down like a B-17 over Berlin There has been a fairly big uptick in murders this year actually but we're still trying to figure out exactly what's going on with that
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:There has been a fairly big uptick in murders this year actually but we're still trying to figure out exactly what's going on with that I'd noticed that, and I'd be willing to bet that some fraction of it is simply due to higher temperatures. A couple of regional concentrations probably also throw the numbers off - I have the impression that the Chicago area has been murder-happy for the last couple years, for instance.
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Is it possible - not likely, but possible - that Graham is talking about absolute numbers, rather than per capita?
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WrenP-Complete posted:Is it possible - not likely, but possible - that Graham is talking about absolute numbers, rather than per capita? You say that like it would be better.
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Platystemon posted:You say that like it would be better. I was wondering about CaptainSarcastic's lying or ignorant question.
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SocketWrench posted:Seems to be the standard among the republican aligned. Trump tried passing that bullshit on tonight and Hillary shot him down like a B-17 over Berlin Schweinfurt, more like.
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Discendo Vox posted:Usually, yes. The tech has improved drastically over time. Black and white grainy stuff could also be night vision. Missile cams are the worst- imagine having to watch through a camera mounted on the tip of a missile just as it hits someone-then immediately swapping back to one of the overlooking drones as it monitors the effects. You mean every time I'd play 007 Nightfire?
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CaptainSarcastic posted:"The streets are very dangerous and there's a raging epidemic of violence in our nation." - Franklin Graham Republicans love to imagine that the world is getting so much worse from some ideal period in their youth that they barely remember.
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theflyingexecutive posted:You mean every time I'd play 007 Nightfire? Wow that just brought back a lot of repressed gamecube memories from nowhere
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e: Eh nevermind this was a dumb post
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Mm, that's a spicy good sovcit filing.
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Is "United States of American, and does 1-100" a typo or a sov cit thing I can't even tell
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I don't know about "United States of American", but I believe it's supposed to refer to people as John Does, as in "and (John) Does (#)1-100"? Based on the mention of "Does" again in the 2nd item.
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Oh I thought she had misspelled "dues," like she... wanted the federal government to pay her dues?
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In-cloud vs un-cloud? Could one of the goon legal eagles help us when you get a chance please?
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Owenership.
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Sep 27, 2016 17:08
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The verb "challenge" seems to change meanings.
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The Juwes are the men that will not to be blamed for nothing.
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Casimir Radon posted:The Juwes are the men that will not to be blamed for nothing. 
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https://twitter.com/maxoregonian/status/780819486186188800
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"One by 1"? smh I'm the legal crate.
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https://twitter.com/ameliaOPB/status/780490036621942784 Her name was Jeanette Finicum
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Gennifer Flowers posted:https://twitter.com/ameliaOPB/status/780490036621942784 I think part of their "strategy," or at least Ryan's, is to pretty much treat Finicum's death as some kind of magic trump card. Like they expect it to cancel out all their own well-documented illegal actions. Prosecutor: *demonstrates culpability of the Tarpriots for multiple felonies* Ryan Bundy: "But you killed Lavoy Finicum."  Imaginary jury: Cries of "not guilty!" while slowly applauding.
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10,137 rounds of ammunition found at the refuge, total.
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Discendo Vox posted:10,137 rounds of ammunition found at the refuge, total. A perfectly reasonable amount for personal self defence.
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Discendo Vox posted:10,137 rounds of ammunition found at the refuge, total. Seems legit 
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OAquinas posted:Seems legit What would an actual "reasonable" number of rounds be? (not trying to start gun chat!) Is this an order of magnitude or two more than would be expected?
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WrenP-Complete posted:What would an actual "reasonable" number of rounds be? (not trying to start gun chat!) Is this an order of magnitude or two more than would be expected? For a peaceful protest occupation? Zero is the ceiling.
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And that's probably not even all the ammunition they had. That's just the ammunition that was left behind.
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SocketWrench posted:Basically, yes. Though if you were that fucker you likely gained a rep for being a poo poo bag and the bar would empty out whenever you wandered your rear end in Are people with challenge coins just too stupid/cowardly to ignore those kinds of people or what? WrenP-Complete posted:What would an actual "reasonable" number of rounds be? (not trying to start gun chat!) Is this an order of magnitude or two more than would be expected? Zero if you're nonviolent as these idiots claim to have been.
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They interviewed one of the SovCits (I forget which one. One of the ones not currently on trial) on that OPB podcast and directly asked him why they were so heavily armed when, if this was a peaceful protest, they could do the exact same thing without guns. His response was basically that guns convey authority. Which tells you a lot about their mindset.
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OAquinas posted:Seems legit Someone who's good at economics please help my family is dying WrenP-Complete posted:What would an actual "reasonable" number of rounds be? (not trying to start gun chat!) Is this an order of magnitude or two more than would be expected? In Iraq, I was issued 180 rounds, I think that's the standard because it's like 5-6 full magazines. For an estimated 40 people, that's about 250 rounds per person, excessive but not outside the realm of possibility. The difference is that the occupiers had all kinds of different weapons of different calibers, from assault rifles to hunting rifles to pistols, so it would be a logistical nightmare to keep them supplied. I think one guy had a musket (because he was a felon and it's not an illegal firearm for him), one guy had an old timey six shooter. But to reiterate it's also what they left behind when they poo poo their pants and ran for the hills, who knows how much they took home. red19fire has issued a correction as of 23:19 on Sep 27, 2016 |
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WrenP-Complete posted:What would an actual "reasonable" number of rounds be? (not trying to start gun chat!) Is this an order of magnitude or two more than would be expected?
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Nihilarian posted:seems to me like the amount of rounds that would be reasonable would depend on what you're doing with them Sure, I was also imagining constraints like "this many come in a box," or "this many are in the gun anyway, and they brought the guns to look serious, and didn't take the ammunition out of them." But it seems the answer is, "for peaceful protest zero is the right number." What about the claim that they were (verbing) hostile adverse possession? Edit: Ah, thank you red19fire! For some reason your response didn't load in my browser before I wrote this. 
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10,000 rounds is a pretty fun weekend at the range for a dozen people if you've got full auto weapons. It's a pretty terrible amount to start a revolution with.
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red19fire posted:But to reiterate it's also what they left behind when they poo poo their pants and ran for the hills, who knows how much they took home. this is pretty goddamn funny when you think about it the people most likely to make grim assertions of revolt at the prospect of the government taking their guns left their guns behind when they fled likely because they were afraid of being killed by the government in their exit
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Mirthless posted:this is pretty goddamn funny when you think about it Hey, we don't know that. Maybe the ones who left their guns behind were felons who weren't supposed to have guns, and were afraid of being searched during their exit. Totally different fear.
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Mirthless posted:this is pretty goddamn funny when you think about it This wouldn't have happened if the guns had had guns.
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