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Thirteen Orphans posted:My old chaplain HATES when people say Aquinas was super heavy. He's convinced it's some kind of anti-Catholic rumor that stuck. god also came for the hamplanets
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Man Whore posted:Ohio unfortunately. There is a joke somewhere about the only southern baptists in the thread being from what is considered to be two of the shittiest states.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 09:50 |
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Pictured: Thomas Aquinas, thin as a rail
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 12:52 |
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System Metternich posted:
The Protestant propaganda is coming from inside the thread
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Tias posted:Just chiming in to say that drinking yourself to sleep is very unhealthy, and definitely not a good way to get anything but a false connection to the divine. Hence why I said I was lucky if I could do it! I definitely don't drink more than once a week. Though I certainly do appreciate the concern.
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Thirteen Orphans posted:My old chaplain HATES when people say Aquinas was super heavy. He's convinced it's some kind of anti-Catholic rumor that stuck. He had to cut a semi circle out of his desk so he could sit at it. Aquinas was super goony.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 17:07 |
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he and luther are eating cheetos and discussing theology (and the proper robe / professor cap choices for gentlemen of gravity) in a better place, now
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Worthleast posted:He had to cut a semi circle out of his desk so he could sit at it. Aquinas was super goony. You should have seen his face when I mentioned the Aquinas Table.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 17:46 |
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you're not a real christian unless you speak fluent galilean aramaic http://www.thenazareneway.com/lords_prayer.htm
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 17:56 |
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System Metternich posted:I don't know about Luther not being venerated, I definitely know about some movements within the Lutheran Church of Germany where he is the next best thing to a saint, complete with St Martin's Day being changed into Martin-Luther-Day in some parts. This reached its peak in the 19th century, but is in some places still very much alive (just a couple of days ago I read in an article about that very topic how American Lutherans come to Eisleben to kiss Luther's baptismal font) In my experience Lutherans do not treat Luther like a saint, or "close" to a saint. I'm not an expert on saint-stuff but he is not associated with any of the checkmarks I know of, such as: he wasn't a martyr, he didn't do any miracles, he isn't considered particularly moral or pious. The closest thing to supernatural I've ever heard about him is the story that he was struck by lightning and survived; Luther himself took this to be significant, but when I was young this was never presented to me as divine intervention or as something that marked him as special, rather it was just treated as an anecdote about his life story and his development as a person. I've been sitting here for like ten minutes trying to think about how Lutherans actually do consider Luther's relation to anything divine, and I haven't had any trains of thought that went anywhere I was happy with. Another thing that is bugging me a little bit is that I'm curious if (part of) the premise of your comparison is based on saming Lutheran thought with more Catholic/Orthodox thought. Perhaps I will think of something later, or someone else can help me out here. (also I bet my one religion professor would be super proud of me using the critical-theory verb "same" here) Finally, I'm pretty sure that nobody is changing St. Martin's Day into "Martin Luther Day". The moment I read this in your post, I guessed that St. Martin's day was in October or November, and I was right. Why did I guess this? Because that's around when Reformation Day is, of course. In the churches I grew up in, it was celebrated on a Sunday during late October or early November, but Wikipedia claims that some churches have done it on St. Martin's Day. However I don't think I have ever heard of it being officially related to or replacing anything with regard to St. Martin. I mostly remember it just being the one Sunday a year when maybe the confirmands would put on a little play about Luther, or the sermon would have some bits about the Reformation worked into it. And I'm stretching my memory, but I think sometimes the vestments are red on this day, instead of the typical Pentecost-season green.
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Lutha Mahtin posted:In my experience Lutherans do not treat Luther like a saint, or "close" to a saint. I'm not an expert on saint-stuff but he is not associated with any of the checkmarks I know of, such as: he wasn't a martyr, he didn't do any miracles, he isn't considered particularly moral or pious. The closest thing to supernatural I've ever heard about him is the story that he was struck by lightning and survived; Luther himself took this to be significant, but when I was young this was never presented to me as divine intervention or as something that marked him as special, rather it was just treated as an anecdote about his life story and his development as a person. Luther literally threw his ink bottle at the devil, every child in Germany knows this you can look at the ink spot left on the wall in the Wartburg Castle if you want re: Martin Luther Day, I looked it up: in some regions of northern Germany the old customs and traditions of St Martin's Day were shortened or replaced wholesale by carol singing in which the songs praise Luther as a "friend of light and pious man" (Lichtfreund und Glaubensmann) who "tore down the crown from the Pope's head". In some cases traditional songs of St Martin were simply changed a bit into Martin Luther songs instead. I'm not talking about the official position of the various Lutheran Churches, mind. What I mean instead is the Luther memory as it developed mainly in the 19th century and is still alive in some corners of the Lutheran Church in Germany - as I can't speak for the rest of the world, of course. This attitude towards Luther ranged from hero worship to almost outright veneration, complete with supernatural legends like the one with the ink bottle. The Castle church of Wittenberg contains some 19th century paintings which put Luther in an implied genealogical relation to the House of Hohenzollern, for example.
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 18:53 |
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All of this talk on Aquinus' alleged corpulence made me curious, and I discovered a passage where Chesterton compares him to Count Fosco, were that character turned suddenly to saintliness!
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CountFosco posted:All of this talk on Aquinus' alleged corpulence made me curious, and I discovered a passage where Chesterton compares him to Count Fosco, were that character turned suddenly to saintliness!
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 22:30 |
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augustine and his girlfriend lived a loving relationship together, he was not a creep
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 22:36 |
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pray for me everyone, i applied for a really really good job at a lutheran church
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 22:48 |
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Smoking Crow posted:pray for me everyone, i applied for a really really good job at a lutheran church
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Was Aquinas a reformed creeper on women? I thought that was Augustine. I'm pretty sure his family paid a sex worker to gently caress him so he wouldn't join the Dominicans, and either beat the poo poo out of her or converted her into being not a sex worker depending on who you ask So... maybe?
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 23:03 |
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HEY GAL posted:on it ok so we can all agree martin luther is in heaven does martin luther do intercessory prayer?
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Thirteen Orphans posted:My old chaplain HATES when people say Aquinas was super heavy. He's convinced it's some kind of anti-Catholic rumor that stuck. Deep in the Protestant Headquarters, the Head Protestant sits on a plastic stool, wearing ugly polyester vestments. Cringing Lackey approaches. Cringing Lackey: Your Reformedness, I have bad news. The Catholics are growing ever stronger. How will we ever convince people to stop doing good works, as is the cornerstone of our belief system. Head Protestant: Don't worry, I have a plan that will strike a the heart of the Papists. I'll tell people that the famous Roman Catholic Thomas Aquinas, who as everyone knows we Protestants hate and fear for his orthodox theology, was all fat and gross. CL: But Your Supreme Anti-Liturgicalness, it is well known that Aquinas was super buff and swole. HP: It is true that he was super buff and swole, and also ripped, but we'll tell people he was a fat nerd. Because, and I really can't stress this enough, all Protestants hate Aquinas for some reason. CL: Brilliant your Iconoclasticness. I'll put the plan into action right away. HP: Good. Now leave me. I must put a condom on my penis before I have sex with my wife.
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Mr Enderby posted:Deep in the Protestant Headquarters, the Head Protestant sits on a plastic stool, wearing ugly polyester vestments. Cringing Lackey approaches. Someone needs to draw a Catholic Chick tract about this.
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Smoking Crow posted:does martin luther do intercessory prayer? no, but every time someone shitposts at a Papist, Martin Luther raises his beer stein and nods his chins approvingly in Lutheran theology all Christians living and dead are saints and praying for the Christian Church as a whole, it is ok to contemplate and imitate their lives to strengthen our faith but they are not intercessors e: Martin Luther posted:"When I die, I want to be a ghost...So I can continue to pester the bishops, priests and godless monks until that they have more trouble with a dead Luther than they could have had before with a thousand living ones." oh, buddy, your ghost has certainly stirred up a lot of poo poo that's true Pellisworth fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Sep 28, 2016 |
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Pellisworth posted:no, but every time someone shitposts at a Papist, Martin Luther raises his beer stein and nods his chins approvingly so perpetua is perpetually praying
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 23:55 |
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someone needs to show Martin Luther how to set up a Ghost Twitter account
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# ? Sep 27, 2016 23:57 |
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Mr Enderby posted:Deep in the Protestant Headquarters, the Head Protestant sits on a plastic stool, wearing ugly polyester vestments. Cringing Lackey approaches. HEY GAL posted:do you think you'd want to do...whatever Evangelicals do when they go to church...with Cythreal over the internet? He's been having a lot of problems finding a church with people his own age in it, who aren't a hellscape of rightwingers Man Whore fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Sep 28, 2016 |
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Mr Enderby posted:Deep in the Protestant Headquarters, the Head Protestant sits on a plastic stool, wearing ugly polyester vestments. Cringing Lackey approaches. Very Monty Python! (Good Monty Python)
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 01:13 |
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rap music posted:you're not a real christian unless you speak fluent galilean aramaic quote:Our Father-Mother Who art above and within: Hallowed be Thy Name in twofold Trinity. ...twofold Trinity? Either this is the weirdest variation on Patripassionism ever, in which case someone needs to point out that 'Trinity' involves 'three', or there's six Persons in the dual Godhead? (Or are there five, with one Spirit breathed by... one or more of the other four?)
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Man Whore posted:How would that work? is there some kind of preacher streaming site that streams sermons and we can just talk about cool baptist things? I would do it but I have to admit that I don't know the first thing about Jesus other than half remembered bible school stuff. you know i think some congregations are on skype, and some streaming service (not twitch, unless padre mains mercy i suppose). like back when i e-mailed robert shore-goss like "oh no i like dudes and i wanted to be a catholic priest what do i do" he sent me a link to archives of sermons from his congregation (then metropolitan community church) and a link to where streamed weekly services. i'm sure they have something like that for even more evangelical forms of christianity (mcc was started by a pentecostal and while robert shore-goss, former jesuit, had a more catholic inspired service a lot of congregants apparently have issues with more liturgical worship styles)
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 01:24 |
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robert shore-goss also said he'd be willing to "apprentice" me so to speak, doing whatever it is you do to make someone a priest and teaching me the ropes of being a minister then a week later i saw him post on lady gaga's facebook that he'd do the same for her, and it kind of lost the impact a bit tbh
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Pellisworth posted:someone needs to show Martin Luther how to set up a Ghost Twitter account oh lol should i do this e: too late Lutha Mahtin fucked around with this message at 01:55 on Sep 28, 2016 |
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Lutha Mahtin posted:oh lol should i do this I mean I don't use Twitter but it would be a pretty good gimmick, you just gotta paraphrase Lutheran Insulter quotes into 140 characters e: For maximum authenticity make sure to use echo parentheses to identify (((globalists))) and (((Papists))) RIP Martin Luther Twitter account, banned for tweeting at the Pope calling him a "fart-rear end" and the antichrist Pellisworth fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Sep 28, 2016 |
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zonohedron posted:...twofold Trinity? Either this is the weirdest variation on Patripassionism ever, in which case someone needs to point out that 'Trinity' involves 'three', or there's six Persons in the dual Godhead? (Or are there five, with one Spirit breathed by... one or more of the other four?) Yeah I remember reading an article about these guys. It's fair to say scholarship isn't their strong suit.
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Mr Enderby posted:Deep in the Protestant Headquarters, the Head Protestant sits on a plastic stool, wearing ugly polyester vestments. Cringing Lackey approaches.
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Thirteen Orphans posted:Yeah I remember reading an article about these guys. It's fair to say scholarship isn't their strong suit. When the fantasy religion in the Curse of Chalion is more consistent and well-written than someone's Gnostic fantasies...
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zonohedron posted:...twofold Trinity? Either this is the weirdest variation on Patripassionism ever, in which case someone needs to point out that 'Trinity' involves 'three', or there's six Persons in the dual Godhead? (Or are there five, with one Spirit breathed by... one or more of the other four?) don't ask me ask jesus he's the one that said it
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zonohedron posted:...twofold Trinity? Either this is the weirdest variation on Patripassionism ever, in which case someone needs to point out that 'Trinity' involves 'three', or there's six Persons in the dual Godhead? (Or are there five, with one Spirit breathed by... one or more of the other four?) Maybe the two fold trinity means the trinity above and the trinity below, or within. After all we are made in His image so perhaps this trinity is in heaven as it is in us.
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 18:53 |
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Christianity Thread II: To the Trinity and beyond.
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# ? Sep 28, 2016 18:56 |
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Omnidimensional googleplex trinitrinity.
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all i know is i have the most trinities
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rap music posted:all i know is i have the most trinities What if I have a copy of Blade 3: Trinity, does that mean I have 9 trinities?
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