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The tank scene is easily one of the best action sequences in all of anime, despite the fact that it is about the protagonist just barely avoiding some gunfire and then gibbing herself. It's packed full of atmosphere and awesome animation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS3PGKUiSco
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Phi230 posted:Hey anime nerds How else would you get the scene of her naked ripping herself apart?
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Sep 28, 2016 22:13
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Ammanas posted:They mention two helicopters were minutes away Except the Helicopters with the snipers arrive like several minutes AFTER Batou shows up and kills the tank. Like after the Major and The Puppet Master are linked up and Pup. Mas. is doing his Matrix Speech. "There's a reason I can't wait" never explains the reason dammit Major you loose cannon! You're a danger to the whole force! I oughtta ask for your gun and badge!
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Sep 28, 2016 22:28
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MariusLecter posted:How else would you get the scene of her naked ripping herself apart? fair point is there any significance to that scene beyond just literally tearing her own arms off and looking cool? There's some pretty ham-fisted symbolism in shooting up the tree of human evolution and the fossils right beforehand
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Sep 28, 2016 22:37
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edit:Phi230 posted:fair point 1. No. poo poo is tight. 2. Ham is good.
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Sep 28, 2016 22:37
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Phi230 posted:fair point They're beating Section 6 to the body that the Puppet Master had hijacked.
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Sep 28, 2016 22:39
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I mean yeah bulging, cramping muscles is cool and good but if the Giant Enemy Crab had like 4 more seconds to crush the Major's head she woulda like permadied right? Why just commit suicide against spider tank and waste the whole pursuit of Architect from the Matrix?
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Sep 28, 2016 22:40
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Phone posted:They're beating Section 6 to the body that the Puppet Master had hijacked. i mean like subtextually
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Sep 28, 2016 22:42
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Phi230 posted:i mean like subtextually By moving our minds into prosthetic bodies we are no longer evolving biologically. Killing the evolutionary tree. Probably?
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Sep 28, 2016 22:52
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Phi230 posted:i mean like subtextually subtext? is that like subtitles? you have to turn them on, dude.
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Sep 28, 2016 22:55
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MariusLecter posted:By moving our minds into prosthetic bodies we are no longer evolving biologically. Killing the evolutionary tree. I noticed the shooting of the tree but like is there anything meaningful to her literally tearing herself apart
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Sep 28, 2016 23:15
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She's desperate to get into the tank that she literally tears herself apart from the limbs. Not to be an rear end, but I'm not understanding what you're looking for exactly.
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Sep 28, 2016 23:17
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Phi230 posted:Hey anime nerds She charges largely to prevent the Section 6 goons from scrapping the body, which they eventually do with the helicopter snip. If Section 9 showed up in full force, either the tank or the guy in the car would deny them reclaiming the Puppet Master's body by destroying it. This actually happens in the manga: when cornered, the Section 6 guys throw an explosive charge into the backseat of the car, shredding the body. Kusanagi ghost-dives into the dying Puppeteer to get the needed information for Section 6's wrongdoing, who then merges with her. Also, the tank also has more than one optics unit. MariusLecter posted:How else would you get the scene of her naked ripping herself apart? Phi230 posted:Except the Helicopters with the snipers arrive like several minutes AFTER Batou shows up and kills the tank. The reason is that Puppet Master's body is dying and that it's not going to be able to hold off the helicopter snipers off forever.
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Sep 28, 2016 23:22
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Phone posted:She's desperate to get into the tank that she literally tears herself apart from the limbs. i dunno it just seemed to me like there's some metaphor to this because its too ridiculous to just happen
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Sep 28, 2016 23:21
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The metaphor if anything is about how cybernetics are to the point where it's possible for the user to leverage individual limbs against each other to the point of catastrophic failure. In 2nd Gig (I think), there's an episode where Togusa stops a murder on his way home, and the perp is all like "I TURNED OFF MY PAIN RECEPTORS HEH HEH HEH". Outside of being "sick as hell", it's incredibly visceral (take a drink) sight to behold.
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Sep 28, 2016 23:44
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Phi230 posted:Hey anime nerds The bumrush/time limit has already been explained pretty well but the tank's optics were that gimbal thing on its roof (which usually wasn't exposed) and its two "eyes" which had metal covers to protect them. You can see them opening and closing when she fires at the tank, she did manage to take out one of its miniguns though.
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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Phi230 posted:I mean yeah bulging, cramping muscles is cool and good but if the Giant Enemy Crab had like 4 more seconds to crush the Major's head she woulda like permadied right? She really wants to gently caress that robo
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Sep 29, 2016 00:23
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It's been a long while since I've attempted Ghost in the Shell '95 but I'm always left confused by the plot and what people are even talking about. I hope I am not the only one.
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Sep 29, 2016 00:23
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:It's been a long while since I've attempted Ghost in the Shell '95 but I'm always left confused by the plot and what people are even talking about. I hope I am not the only one. Its Deus Ex except with boobs
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Sep 29, 2016 00:29
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:It's been a long while since I've attempted Ghost in the Shell '95 but I'm always left confused by the plot and what people are even talking about. I hope I am not the only one. Watch it again?
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Sep 29, 2016 00:34
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It's not terribly complicated, but you have to pay attention (kinda like Blade Runner, if you miss it, it's gone). The driving conflict is that Section 6 are trying to cover up their hacking tool(s) gaining sentience and wanting to get the gently caress out of this whack rear end crystal prison.
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Sep 29, 2016 00:51
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also japan is relevant on a international scale, for some reason
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It's largely irrelevant. In the TV show, they hand wave it by referencing World War 3 (nuclear) and World War 4 being complete and total shitshows that basically leads to the dismantling of the United States. Asia proper and South America both get turbo hosed in the literal fallout, and Japan emerges as a premiere world power because of the Japanese Miracle: nanomachines that scrub radiation. A point that probably does get lost in translation is present day (1995 or 2016, doesn't matter) Japan, the Japanese military, and Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution. quote:ARTICLE 9. (1) Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes. It's largely left to the viewer/reader to fill in the gaps about Public Security Sections and the larger JSDF and how they may or may not operate within the bounds of Article 9.
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Phone posted:It's largely irrelevant. In the TV show, they hand wave it by referencing World War 3 (nuclear) and World War 4 being complete and total shitshows that basically leads to the dismantling of the United States. Asia proper and South America both get turbo hosed in the literal fallout, and Japan emerges as a premiere world power because of the Japanese Miracle: nanomachines that scrub radiation. Just to clarify, the TV backstory borrowed heavily from the timeline of Appleseed. I believe there's even two Americas: Imperial Americana and the United Socialist States of America. Then again, a lot of Shirow's stuff borders on being a shared universe, with, discounting the various non-canonical cameos, Poseidon and Seburo making appearance in GITS, Appleseed, and Dominion Tank Police. Phone posted:It's largely left to the viewer/reader to fill in the gaps about Public Security Sections and the larger JSDF and how they may or may not operate within the bounds of Article 9. It's been awhile since I last watched the series, but I know the deployment of Kuze's cybersoldier unit to
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Phi230 posted:also japan is relevant on a international scale, for some reason The hints at the larger world politics in GitS are usually pretty hilariously out of touch with reality. I mean FFS episode 3 of SAC features the son of a Canadian diplomat who's living in Japan to dodge military conscription. You know, they thing that Canadians first learn about via the Conscription Crisis of 1917 and the Conscription Crisis of 1944.
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Sep 29, 2016 03:46
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Zzulu posted:The tank scene is easily one of the best action sequences in all of anime, despite the fact that it is about the protagonist just barely avoiding some gunfire and then gibbing herself. It's packed full of atmosphere and awesome animation It plays out like an http://www.antipope.org/ cybernetically enhanced kill sequence. Simply divine.
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Improbable Lobster posted:The hints at the larger world politics in GitS are usually pretty hilariously out of touch with reality. I mean FFS episode 3 of SAC features the son of a Canadian diplomat who's living in Japan to dodge military conscription. You know, they thing that Canadians first learn about via the Conscription Crisis of 1917 and the Conscription Crisis of 1944. Oh yeah, the geopolitical landscape is like the opening of Who's Line. "Welcome to Ghost in the Shell, the show where everyone's a superpower and the military conflicts don't matter." The US is split into The American Empire (the south), The United States of America (a T-shaped piece spanning from the midwest to Washington and down to Arizona), and the Russo-American Alliance (NE corridor, Chicago, and the west coast). Phone fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Sep 29, 2016 |
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Nasty fight of Motoko taking on an Armored Suit in classic Ghost in the Shell style. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHWbxK_wZms Batou showing what the support male role is all about. A cold murderer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J8xuLRB_u8 The Laughing Man fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Sep 29, 2016 |
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The Laughing Man posted:Nasty fight of Motoko taking on an Armored Suit in classic Ghost in the Shell style. Yeah, that part upset me a bit considering that the whole resolution to that really amounted to nothing: they get arrested anyway, the scandal blows up, the health minister resigns, and the conspiracy goes into collapses, killing a whole bunch of the conspirators in an attempt to cover themselves up. He basically killed that guy for nothing and he knew it. You also need to put in Saito committing a loving war crime shooting a medic in this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-gGZ2rJqfQ If Kamiyama is doing a third series, he really needs to kind of invert the dynamic and have the female prime minister that could justify their actions replaced with someone who uses Section 9 as a personal hit squad, forcing them to do distasteful things like harass activists, beating up journalists, and assassinate political opponents.
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teagone posted:I cut this together with the goal of pleasing fans of the 1995 anime film. This actually makes me way more interested in the film now.
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teagone posted:I cut this together with the goal of pleasing fans of the 1995 anime film.  But this is the presentation I would have imagined. I imagine the original score was too Asian or some poo poo.
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Young Freud posted:Apparently, Kenji Kamiyama is hinting that there maybe a third season of the best Ghost In The Shell, GITS: Stand Alone Complex, coming up. Please let this be true. Anything to save us from the trash that was Arise.
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Sep 29, 2016 13:26
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Why is Arise so bad? I know they recast all the voices, which honestly was kind of a deal-breaker for me since the new ones just seem like bad soundalikes.
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Sep 29, 2016 13:30
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Arise isn't bad. The movie is actually really fun and good.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:It's been a long while since I've attempted Ghost in the Shell '95 but I'm always left confused by the plot and what people are even talking about. I hope I am not the only one. I just saw it a couple months ago and I tried really hard at the beginning to follow all the polit-babble that talks about coups and revolutions and international relations and none of that mattered. I don't know if it was by design or not, but not really understanding the setting and also what kind of beings these people are (are they cybords? are their brains/bodies simply sleeping somewhere else and they are connected to these bodies by WiFi?) did create a cool mystique to the whole thing. The movie is pretty cool as a self-contained thing, so I didn't check out the rest of the GITS stuff. So I dunno if this new movie will follow it at all because all the teasers don't seem to be from anything in the 1995 movie.
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Hakkesshu posted:Why is Arise so bad? I know they recast all the voices, which honestly was kind of a deal-breaker for me since the new ones just seem like bad soundalikes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09hIoAyMSxw
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Hakkesshu posted:Why is Arise so bad? I know they recast all the voices, which honestly was kind of a deal-breaker for me since the new ones just seem like bad soundalikes. It's alright but it's not nearly as good as SAC or the films. The craziest thing about the voices is that Mary Elizabeth McGlynn is still in it, voicing another character
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Zzulu posted:The tank scene is easily one of the best action sequences in all of anime, despite the fact that it is about the protagonist just barely avoiding some gunfire and then gibbing herself. It's packed full of atmosphere and awesome animation This is considered a good action scene? This poo poo makes no sense.
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Hakkesshu posted:Why is Arise so bad? I know they recast all the voices, which honestly was kind of a deal-breaker for me since the new ones just seem like bad soundalikes. I just watched the first one last weekend, because I remember they existed, and it's not bad, there's just weird choices with stuff. Like mobile mines for war are little anime girl robots, for whatever reason, and Motoko being cyborgized in the god drat womb. I don't know if it gets worse or what, I'm gonna have to get caught up this weekend 
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bad news bareback posted:This is considered a good action scene? This poo poo makes no sense. What part doesn't make sense?
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