Cythereal posted:

The ironic thing is, porn aside Playboy historically has been a distinctly progressive publication for anyone who actually reads the articles. They stopped with the porn because they realized this is the internet era, they simply can't compete with the internet's limitless supply of free porn.

Free market, Freep.

SubponticatePoster posted:

This is one of those Freeper quotes that at first just strikes you as normal Freep poo poo and then something niggles the back of your brain so you read it again and then the next thing you're conscious of is laying on the floor tasting pennies and the cat is pawing at your head and meowing in a concerned way. I mean, just look at it

chitoryu12 posted:

Seriously, go buy some old Playboys. Issues from the 1960s and 1970s are only a few bucks, especially if you find them at flea markets. It's almost difficult to find the porn in them because the magazines are 95% interviews, editorials, letters, movie and restaurant reviews, etc. The nude pictures get a small section shoved into the middle.

The issue I picked up at a flea market had an interview with John Lindsay, the Republican mayor of New York City at the time of publication. It's startling to see how incredibly different the Republican party was back then compared to now. Lindsay comes off as a moderate Democrat by modern standards, supporting black-owned businesses in Harlem and coming off as a very reasonable conservative. The same issue had letters from homosexuals talking about the harassment they got from cops (this was I think just a few months or a few years before Stonewall) and slyly suggesting that some of the undercover officers propositioning them to lure them into an arrest were repressed gay men themselves.

Old Playboys are a brilliant look at the culture of their time, and it's a shame they get discarded with a reputation as just useless porn.

xthetenth posted:

I know of at least one novel series that got going because playboy published its first few chapters.

xthetenth posted:

I know of at least one novel series that got going because playboy published its first few chapters.

Jay Rust posted:

Okay I wasn't quite ready for that last thread

Night10194 posted:

Every now and then I catch myself hoping these bastards die alone and terrified, abandoned by their friends, family, and country.

It's not right and I shouldn't feel that way, but my niece is *terrified* of the stuff she sees on the news. My nephews' mother is in a near panic about her mixed race sons. My mother is terrified her black grandson is going to die in a run-in with the cops. This poo poo is close to home for me.

Geostomp posted:

outside of straight up hate sites,

Pet Rock Band posted:

Freep is a straight up hate site.

quote:

Dear Lord in heaven, you know the hearts of those who serve you here below. I pray that you reward those who do their jobs in an ethical way, upholding your principles of fairness, ethics and good service. I pray that you remove your blanket of protection from those of your servants who lie and cheat and misuse their positions to do harm to others.

quote:

To: mdittmar

He cannot scare off women with a too hostile approach.


3 posted on 9/28/2016, 3:16:28 PM by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)

quote:

To: mdittmar

MSM hits on him for winning the debate.

They will never ask Hillary if she would reconsider her debate prep after she clearly lost.

No bias here!


5 posted on 9/28/2016, 3:18:03 PM by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))

quote:

To: mdittmar

Trump had a look of calm amusement in the last few minutes of the debate.

It reminds me of a champion boxer reaching the end of the second round and having taken on the best their opponent had to offer : ‘Is that all you got, punk?’ Trump seemed to be saying.

The first debate was Trump probing, examining the enemy up close and personnel. He knows there is nothing to fear.

The Trump counter in the second debate is going to be some sight to behold


7 posted on 9/28/2016, 3:18:44 PM by WashingtonFire

quote:

To: mdittmar

It also helped that DNC NBC anchor was giving a boost to Hillary. I saw Hillary’s campaign appearance today in NH. No life. No energy. There’s no enthusiasm for this woman. The vote fraud is going to have to be enormous this time around.


10 posted on 9/28/2016, 3:20:38 PM by dowcaet (.)

quote:

To: Truth29

DJT better treat the next two debates as if they are political exorcism. We have 40-days to rid ourselves of this evil and when he didn’t defend himself against her racist, misogyny charges he let her off the ropes. He got terrible, terrible debate advice IMO.


11 posted on 9/28/2016, 3:20:38 PM by JonPreston

quote:

To: mdittmar

On Fox News there was consensus that Trump’s big margin in on-line who-won-debate polls (typical result 80/20 Trump)was from Trump fans voting in large numbers (mostly Freepers?) and as often as possible.


12 posted on 9/28/2016, 3:21:11 PM by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)

quote:

To: mdittmar

I do public speaking and debate for a living. One needs to prepare and rehearse short answers that convey the maximum information in the minimum number of words. To do this you need to anticipate what will be asked and have a response ready. Anyone who has ever argued a case in court knows this. Clinton knows this.

The “issues” that Trump will be confronted with are not mysterious - we all know what they are, and how he should respond. He needs to practice those responses.


16 posted on 9/28/2016, 3:23:53 PM by theoilpainter

quote:

To: mdittmar

That’s because he won. the checkers playing idiots want to see him insulting Hillary and being a fool. He is playing Chess. He wasn’t aiming his performance at us.

He was aiming it at people who want to feel safe.

His whole campaign is basically dad pulling into the driveway. Now he is showing them that being firm doesn’t mean unstable. Its very important to women and childish people.


17 posted on 9/28/2016, 3:25:51 PM by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)

quote:

To: mdittmar

What is this MSM bullsh*t meme? Trump won the debate. Period.


19 posted on 9/28/2016, 3:26:39 PM by pissant ((Deport 'em all))

quote:

To: luvbach1

There might be some truth to that, but wouldn't Democrats have done the same thing? How difficult is it to vote in an online poll?

I suspect Trump simply had more supporters watching the debate than Clinton did -- which is very telling itself.

Someone posted a figure before the debate indicating that Trump has 65% more Twitter followers than Clinton does. That itself is also very telling.

21 posted on 9/28/2016, 3:27:57 PM by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")

quote:

To: luvbach1

On Fox News there was consensus that Trump’s big margin in on-line who-won-debate polls (typical result 80/20 Trump)was from Trump fans voting in large numbers (mostly Freepers?) and as often as possible.

They wish. Too bad you fell for that one, hook line and sinker.

BTW, there really aren't that many "freepers".

23 posted on 9/28/2016, 3:28:15 PM by lewislynn (Ryan is the other half of the reason Romney got creamed by a negro with a Nobel)

quote:

To: luvbach1

So FOX believes that ONLY Trump fans scramble to vote in online polls and ONLY Trump fans including FReepers will rush to vote as often as possible???

Clinton fans, I guess in FOX’s eyes, are more sedate and honest as they don’t bother and if they vote, it’s only once....

Thatta way FOX, you imbeciles.....


24 posted on 9/28/2016, 3:29:27 PM by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)

quote:

To: JonPreston

He needs to be much better prepared next time, I don’t care how he plans to make that happen. He needs to speak in complete sentances, make your point, “make the sale”, then STOP TALKING!

What I saw in the first 30 minutes, was that Donald was already overtalking, some may have called it filabustering or trying to run out the clock. Don’t try running out the clock till the last third of the debate.

Some may interpret run on talking as a speaker trying to convince himself of his own argument.


25 posted on 9/28/2016, 3:30:10 PM by lee martell

quote:

To: JonPreston

Other than we, who want red meat for entertainment and revenge on her, that’s the wrong approach.

He isn’t trying to show how much he can attack her. He is projecting strength, and swatting her away like a gnat.

She looked like a Chihuahua barking at him, and he simply swatted her away with the amount of power needed and no more.

He’s smart and just watch election day.


26 posted on 9/28/2016, 3:31:23 PM by DesertRhino (Dogs are man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up....)

quote:

To: mdittmar; All

Re-watch the first 45 minutes of the debate. It’s Trump lecturing Hillary and everyone on how the world works and how the bought AND paid for politicians are selling out America and companies are leaving, the FED being political and keeping interest rates near zero creating this bubble stock market and bubble (fake) economy , what politicians like Hillary really are (corrupt bought and paid for you know what)etc.

What did Hillary have a pornstar’s word that he called her miss piggy . That’s why we should elect a lying corrupt politician who is really a communist called Hillary Clinton? Hell no. That’s winning a debate?

Trump is one in a Trillion. He knows more than anyone about how the world works

Trump destroyed the communist Hillary in the debate

Hillary Clinton is a communist from the 1960’s. If Trump can win he’ll save America from communism.


31 posted on 9/28/2016, 3:41:02 PM by Democrat_media (Hillary promised EXECUTIVE amnesty for 40 million illegals in her 1st 100 days as prez)

quote:

To: dowcaet

Oh come on. The questions asked by Lester Holt should have been easy for him to deflect. Stead he accepted the promise of the questions and got on the defensive.
For example....Holt asked him about his support/non support of the Iraq War.
His answer should have been something along the line of.....I was a private citizen and had absolutely no say whether we went to Iraq or not. The politicians like Hillary didn’t care about my opinion and I didn’t vote for it, Hillary did. The better question would be to her about why she voted to go into Iraq and then later changed her mind and refused to support it. She left our brace young men in the military hanging without support.

Block and deflect. Block and deflect. Sooooo easy to do with her since there’s so much to work with.


32 posted on 9/28/2016, 3:42:02 PM by sheana

quote:

To: mdittmar

Trump didn’t make any gaffes , he talked about what he knew and had some great lines, the you haven’t done anything in 30 years , the NAFTA is the worst deal ever and Bill Clinton signed NAFTA. He’s awesome

The media and Hillary wanted to get him to lose his temper or attack Hillary so they can then make him out to be a bully. I want to hear what Trump will do .

All the media has from the debate is the word of a pornstar. LOL. they wanted “your’e no JFK momenet” to keep replaying . Trump won


36 posted on 9/28/2016, 3:46:29 PM by Democrat_media (Hillary promised EXECUTIVE amnesty for 40 million illegals in her 1st 100 days as prez)

quote:

To: mdittmar

Birther, taxes, statements about women, Iraq war, among others. Issues where he is on the offense - e-mails and the FBI findings of reckless conduct, Clinton Foundation and its conflicts of interest, being owned by special interests, Clinton’s treatment of Bill’s victims, among others.

Didn’t you see the debate?

Among my conservative friends who have voted for and will vote for Trump, and who also public speak for a living, Trump got very poor marks. I read most of the debate. It reads slightly better than it was on tv.

It’s silly to say he won, altho I don’t necessarily think it was fatal or will cost him that many votes. Hope not.


43 posted on 9/28/2016, 4:07:00 PM by theoilpainter

quote:

To: Truth29

prominent voices within his own party...

prepare more for what?

what are people still worried around here?

i’m skipping the next two cause they rarely ever change minds and i just get upset.

I READ ALL ABOUT HOW BADLY HE DID.

FIND ME THE ####ING POLL OF REGULAR FOLK WHERE HE DID #$@#$@#ING TERRIBLE.

or drop it


46 posted on 9/28/2016, 4:14:18 PM by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)

quote:

To: DouglasKC

The “media” are an embarrassment to the First Amendment. They are biased losers.


47 posted on 9/28/2016, 4:14:58 PM by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)

quote:

To: JonPreston

She’s an evil c*#t, and all these debates are doing is allowing people to see that.

Her best strategy would be to avoid being seen in public until election day.

Unfortunately, she has 2 more “debates” to go.

Not good for this fiend at all.


48 posted on 9/28/2016, 4:20:13 PM by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)

quote:

To: mdittmar

Trumps prep for debate was shave shower pick the right suit

hillery took a week off to work on it

If that is the best she can do after a week of prep and against someone who just came as was she is done

53 posted on 9/28/2016, 4:39:17 PM by mouser (Run the rats out its the only chance we have)

quote:

To: lulu16

Hillary, playing the simpering coquette, put everything in the front window. Now he knows what she has, so buckle up. He was pissed after that debate only because she is such an audacious filthy liar, who is gas lighting the country he loves. He eliminated 17 qualified, experienced opponents in the primary. Hillary wouldn’t have been able to beat and old cranky communist Bernie, if not for Wassermans manipulations. Sorry to ramble, but let Trump do what Trump does best. Win.


57 posted on 9/28/2016, 6:01:12 PM by Allthesaints

quote:

To: theoilpainter

My wife and I are in this boat too. We were hanging our heads and moaning. He seemed to interrupt a lot, over defended himself using points that only those “in the know” already know and that were too “inside baseball” for the uninformed to get. He spent way too much time defending himself. It was kind of like Hillary was RopeADoping him. The optics were poor. He was negative (with good cause) and she was positive. He frowned and scowled, she smiled. He didn’t really give off many positive vibes. I was worried. I thought he lost big time. What he said didn’t matter, it was the optics.

BUT I did vote for a win on Drudge Anyway, I thought he’d get clobbered Monday morning but I am shocked but happy that it seems like he won! What do I know.


60 posted on 9/28/2016, 7:20:04 PM by kneedragger111

quote:

We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.

quote:

To: libertarian27

Just more Clinton filth. She is totally corrupt and incompetent. To say nothing of criminal.


2 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:11:51 PM by EagleUSA

quote:

To: libertarian27

Total fraud.


3 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:12:22 PM by petercooper (Make America Normal Again!)

quote:

To: libertarian27

If I were Trump I wouldn’t do the debates. She’s such a lying, cheating, witch. Why give her a stage? She cannot get one on her own.


4 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:12:52 PM by madison10 (Proud to be a Deplorable)

quote:

To: libertarian27

Good grief. This is silly. Get over it people.

Let Hillary do her little shoulder shimmies and bask in her debate victory. It will mean nothing on election day.

10 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:21:15 PM by Drew68

quote:

To: libertarian27

Thanks for posting this. Hope YouTube doesn't take this one down.

I didn't notice this, but it was in a comment on the vid before they took it down the first time. At about 5:50, where Hillary does her "Wooo! Ok." and the shimmy that went on way too long, it looks like Donald mouths the word "seizure" and nods, either toward the camera or someone in the audience.

12 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:29:26 PM by HoneysuckleTN (Where the woodbine twineth... || FUB0! || Trump/Pence 2016)

quote:

To: libertarian27

Yep, totally busted. She was indeed using hand signals to Lester Holt. Totally busted. What an evil, conniving witch of a woman, but it doesn’t surprise me that she would do it. She’s evil, pure and simple.


13 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:29:29 PM by ducttape45 (Obama's legacy - Christianity outlawed, America shamed, morality destroyed. Need I say more?)

quote:

To: Drew68

You might be right, we do know Hillary is corrupt. But it is difficult to overlook the blackmail, graft, corruption or whatever transpired between Lester Holt and Clinton that he would do this. It needs to be investigated and he needs to be prosecuted. There are laws you know.


17 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:42:15 PM by Toespi

quote:

To: Drew68

I’m with you. But I will say all those Hillary is coughing and bobing her head videos I laughed at and called them nuts. Then she goes and has a coughing fit in Ohio and collapses in nyc. And they were proven right. So I’m not as dismissive.


25 posted on 9/28/2016, 6:08:03 PM by nhwingut (Trump-Pence 2016 - Blow Up The GOPe)

quote:

To: Beave Meister

The entire debate was rigged from the get-go.

And still Trump won.

Maybe America is sufficiently sane to reject this demented, corrupt, Leftist harridan...?


2 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:18:25 PM by Jack Hammer

quote:

To: Beave Meister

Soooo.....collusion.
And also all of the questions provided to Clinton ahead of time.

Trump should refuse to do anymore debates and tell the American people why.


4 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:23:19 PM by doc maverick (I)

quote:

To: Beave Meister

Trump had it right from the beginning that if Lester was a republican, then it was in name only. His loyalties were clear from the start.


9 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:29:46 PM by lee martell

quote:

To: ducttape45

The timing and what she was doing made it very obvious...


11 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:32:18 PM by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)

quote:

To: All

Lester Holt can now go join Brian Williams....


13 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:33:48 PM by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)

quote:

To: Jack Hammer

The next GOP candidate who agrees to these Democrat media circuses, rigged against Republicans every time, should be considered too stupid to be president. Enough is enough.


14 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:34:31 PM by txrefugee

quote:

To: Beave Meister

Lester saying that Trump supported the war in Iraq showed he had an agenda. Then, as Trump was disputing Holt, Lester said, “the record showed otherwise.”

Lester was debating for Hillary. The man has no credibility left. He showed his agenda and that he was very unprofessional.


25 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:42:39 PM by boycott

quote:

To: Beave Meister

NBC gave her the questions in advance so she could rehearse for 11 days with her note cards, which she had on the podium. An idiot could be prepared with advantages such as that. Then Holt, the bum, goes along with their preplanned cues, so she could unload her one-liners on Trump. Well, he knew it would be a rigged debate, and he was right again.


30 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:47:46 PM by txrefugee

quote:

To: Sarah Barracuda

I'm beginning to lean toward Giuliani’s statement that Trump shouldn't do any more debates.........

37 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:57:24 PM by caww

quote:

To: doc maverick

Trump should refuse to do anymore debates and tell the American people why.

I disagree. We all know that that Moderators/Media are going to be in cahoots with the Dems. Trump just needs to keep on message and point out that Open Borders, Big Government, the Government/Media Complex, racial warfare pushed by the Dems, and Foreign Affair bumbling by the Dems, is a losing proposition.

Hand signals, or not, Trump whiffed on a few hanging curve balls (e.g., 'Cybersecurity' ... how could not Trump have laughed Hillary off-stage with her even attempting to talk about 'Cybersecurity'. She of the 'wiping' her hard-drive with a cloth fame...), but overall I thought he came off better than the smiling, cliché spewing, robotic, spawn of Satan, Stepford Wife.

50 posted on 9/28/2016, 6:17:34 PM by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)

quote:

To: Beave Meister

It may or may not be too late for this election but going forward the GOP needs to refuse to participate in ANY debate with ANY moderator. There should be a list of pre approved questions (approved by both parties) and a timekeeper. That’s it.


52 posted on 9/28/2016, 6:19:02 PM by Behind Liberal Lines (#nevertrump is really #readyforhillary)

quote:

To: Beave Meister

This evil wicked witch looked like a pregnant chigger in the spring. Trump, a private citizen is her perfect ‘host’. Trump is US and she is big mama government chigger. She should not have worn ‘red’, the color of parasites. I despise how easily her powerfulness is garnered via taxation. I do not believe in reincarnation, but, she sure is the spitting image of Jezebel of days gone by!


57 posted on 9/28/2016, 6:34:55 PM by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)

quote:

To: Beave Meister

Perhaps Lester Holt's job was to make sure Hillary made it through the debate without being overwhelmed by another medical event, like a coughing fit or some other symptom(s) of whatever it is she's trying to hide.

If she felt something coming on, she could signal Lester and Lester then goes after Trump, giving her a chance to suppress it and recover.

She's like watching a train wreck video, but not knowing when it will happen. So you wait and watch her in a twisted anticipation for the moment it all goes off the rails and crashes and burns.

It's like you know it's going to happen, you just know it...but when? Where? And how?

Gah...I feel dirty, like my soul needs a shower.

64 posted on 9/28/2016, 9:02:28 PM by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)

quote:

To: gaijin

i looked at the tapes, i believe she was signalling holt.


5 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:54:40 PM by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)

quote:

To: gaijin

Desperate times call for desperate measures. You are still gonna lose, you evil witch.


6 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:54:46 PM by freedom6178

quote:

To: gaijin

Youtube seems to be taking this down quickly. The video is available from C-Span, which should be public domain. I'm guessing that someone is making a bogus copyright claim to keep it from going viral.

But, I have a question: has someone actually watched the entire debate and looked for both the alleged hand signal and the lack of a signal?

Compare Holt's behavior with and without the alleged signal. If his subsequent actions are 100% correlated with the alleged signal, then you have something worth investigating.

Without it, you just have a coincidental nervous tic.

9 posted on 9/28/2016, 5:57:39 PM by justlurking

quote:

To: gaijin

COMMUNISTS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


13 posted on 9/28/2016, 6:00:36 PM by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)

quote:

To: gaijin

If casino security observed this at the tables, she’d be escorted off the premises.


17 posted on 9/28/2016, 6:09:14 PM by SpaceBar

quote:

To: justlurking

Don’t think the ill woman is that coordinated. It may just be a nervous action that is part of her illness.


18 posted on 9/28/2016, 6:09:48 PM by madison10 (Proud to be a Deplorable)

quote:

To: gaijin

Nothing would surprise me regarding the Wicked Witch. For all we know, she had Holt’s family held hostage to make sure he complied.


19 posted on 9/28/2016, 6:10:45 PM by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)

quote:

To: SpaceBar

There is also the "lump in her back", the semi-visible hearing aide in her ear and speculation about her contact lenses.

How Hillary was Fed Information Lame Cherry.

Three Different Ways Hillary Cheated Gateway Pundit

She still lost.

23 posted on 9/28/2016, 6:20:13 PM by Jack Black (Dispossession is an obliteration of memory, of place, and of identity)

quote:

To: Jack Black


FREEZE..?

28 posted on 9/28/2016, 6:26:05 PM by gaijin

quote:

To: gaijin



32 posted on 9/28/2016, 6:31:11 PM by gaijin

quote:

To: Jack Black

Her first answer was like a closing statement, no pause, no reflection, just bam bam bam. I said to my wife that it seemed like she had the question in advance. Never seen anything like it.


34 posted on 9/28/2016, 6:34:43 PM by nhwingut (Trump-Pence 2016 - Blow Up The GOPe)

quote:

Hillary Clinton is not above cheating, lying or stealing to get what she wants. So it shouldn’t be any surprise that she is being accused of cheating during Monday’s 1st Presidential debate.

Clinton was accused of cheating by sending hand signals to the moderator Lester Holt.

During the debate when Clinton wanted to signal Holt when she wanted the floor, she rubbed her face in a manner similar to a baseball manager.

According to True Pundit she has not done this in any other debates during her career supporting the accusation that these were signals.

quote:

To: Beave Meister
The entire debate was rigged from the get-go.

And still Trump won.

Maybe America is sufficiently sane to reject this demented, corrupt, Leftist harridan...?


2 posted on 9/28/2016, 8:18:25 PM by Jack Hammer

quote:

To: Beave Meister
Soooo.....collusion.
And also all of the questions provided to Clinton ahead of time.

Trump should refuse to do anymore debates and tell the American people why.


4 posted on 9/28/2016, 8:23:19 PM by doc maverick (I)

quote:

To: Beave Meister
Corrupt Hillary is a lying, sick old crook who accepts bribes and betrays our country. Everything in that sentence is well documented. She lies even when the truth would serve her better. Everything she says or does must be treated with the utmost suspicion.


8 posted on 9/28/2016, 8:27:51 PM by LOC1 (We need a new President.)

quote:

To: ducttape45
The timing and what she was doing made it very obvious...


11 posted on 9/28/2016, 8:32:18 PM by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)

quote:

To: Beave Meister
NBC gave her the questions in advance so she could rehearse for 11 days with her note cards, which she had on the podium. An idiot could be prepared with advantages such as that. Then Holt, the bum, goes along with their preplanned cues, so she could unload her one-liners on Trump. Well, he knew it would be a rigged debate, and he was right again.


30 posted on 9/28/2016, 8:47:46 PM by txrefugee

quote:

To: Broker
Baseball signals? I thought the only “balls” Hillary was interested in were Bill’s, and in keeping them on ice.

That is why she has a big sign at her Chapaqua house that says “No Bimbos Allowed”.

Explains why Bill bought the house next door with a Red front porch light and a sign that says, “Come on in. We have cookies, and I’ll have yours’”.


55 posted on 9/28/2016, 9:32:33 PM by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

quote:

To: Beave Meister
This evil wicked witch looked like a pregnant chigger in the spring. Trump, a private citizen is her perfect ‘host’. Trump is US and she is big mama government chigger. She should not have worn ‘red’, the color of parasites. I despise how easily her powerfulness is garnered via taxation. I do not believe in reincarnation, but, she sure is the spitting image of Jezebel of days gone by!


57 posted on 9/28/2016, 9:34:55 PM by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)

McGlockenshire posted:

To: theoilpainter

My wife and I are in this boat too. We were hanging our heads and moaning. He seemed to interrupt a lot, over defended himself using points that only those “in the know” already know and that were too “inside baseball” for the uninformed to get. He spent way too much time defending himself. It was kind of like Hillary was RopeADoping him. The optics were poor. He was negative (with good cause) and she was positive. He frowned and scowled, she smiled. He didn’t really give off many positive vibes. I was worried. I thought he lost big time. What he said didn’t matter, it was the optics.

BUT I did vote for a win on Drudge Anyway, I thought he’d get clobbered Monday morning but I am shocked but happy that it seems like he won! What do I know.

60 posted on 9/28/2016, 7:20:04 PM by kneedragger111

quote:

REGULAR FOLK

Scratch Monkey posted:

"You know... regular folk. White males over the age of 40 who lack a college degree. Just like me!"

McGlockenshire posted:

Freepers: I feel dirty, like my soul needs a shower.

VitalSigns posted:

"With my own eyes I watched Trump get destroyed in that debate, but I wanted him to win so I went straight to the polls and lied my rear end off. And hey a bunch of other people also said he won in that poll so it must be true after all!"

The rare posts that give you a first-hand look inside the process of creating one's own reality are the joys that keep me coming back.

Scratch Monkey posted:

"You know... regular folk. White males over the age of 40 who lack a college degree. Just like me!"

VitalSigns posted:

"With my own eyes I watched Trump get destroyed in that debate, but I wanted him to win so I went straight to the polls and lied my rear end off. And hey a bunch of other people also said he won in that poll so it must be true after all!"

The rare posts that give you a first-hand look inside the process of creating one's own reality are the joys that keep me coming back.

McGlockenshire posted:

VitalSigns posted:

"With my own eyes I watched Trump get destroyed in that debate, but I wanted him to win so I went straight to the polls and lied my rear end off. And hey a bunch of other people also said he won in that poll so it must be true after all!"

The rare posts that give you a first-hand look inside the process of creating one's own reality are the joys that keep me coming back.

Erghh posted:

Wish they would go back to the cyborg/augmented Hildawg conspiracy. That one could be so fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OGZO-F5Bp0

quote:

To: SoFloFreeper

This is an excerpt...but the Miami media is DROOLING over this crap.... still NOT A SINGLE REPORT I have seen in the Miami media about the VERIFIED corruption at the Clinton Foundation regarding the Haitian earthquake relief. Not one.


3 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:02:23 AM by SoFloFreeper

quote:

To: SoFloFreeper

Maybe this leftist rag should be looking at Obama and Hitlery for REAL SERIOUS CRIMES and seditious acts against the American public.


4 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:02:53 AM by EagleUSA

quote:

To: SoFloFreeper

Oh noes!!! The Hispanics are trying to get off the reservation! (channeling the Miami Herald).


5 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:03:20 AM by JustaCowgirl (Donald Trump: putting American steel in the spine of our country.)

quote:

To: SoFloFreeper

Hit piece by a dirt bag Trump hater. He makes National Review look like Trump supporters. Have a look on twitter at his garbage dump if you want.


7 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:03:31 AM by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)

quote:

To: SoFloFreeper

Newsweek making up stuff daily


10 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:04:05 AM by Donglalinger

quote:

To: SoFloFreeper

Positive spin: he was ahead of the curve, exploring what would happen if the embargo was lifted, he wanted to be ready. Leading, not from behind. If the next debate asks such questions he should ask, with a long, pregnant pause, “Really, seriously, that is a question?”


11 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:04:34 AM by CincyRichieRich (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent v)

quote:

To: SoFloFreeper

This is what the media does. They dig into the past to find something on a Republican. Then deliberately and intentionally don’t do this for democrats and others America-haters.


20 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:10:26 AM by I want the USA back (Lying Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)

quote:

To: rockrr

“Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts paid at least $68,000 to a consulting firm in late 1998 in an attempt to give Trump’s business a head start in Cuba if the U.S. loosened or lifted trade sanctions, according to the front-page Newsweek report, titled “The Castro Connection.””

THAT’S The big reveal?

So how is that “Trump broke Cuban embargo”?


32 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:23:39 AM by VanDeKoik

quote:

To: VanDeKoik

So how is that “Trump broke Cuban embargo”?

The author is a filthy propagandist. Trying to make up some nonsense.


36 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:25:18 AM by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)

quote:

To: ETL

Oh okay. I thought you were implying that Trump had acted illegally, which seems to be what the article is trying to suggest. There appears to be nothing of the sort here.


42 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:33:50 AM by SoCal Pubbie

quote:

To: SoFloFreeper

It really is bizarro world because here you have these communists trying to paint Mr. Trump, the ultimate capitalist, as a communist, while everybody knows the people doing the painting are the communists.


47 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:42:27 AM by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)

quote:

To: milford421

“It simply did not stop,” WFAN anchor John MinKo, who witnessed the crash, told 1010 WINS. “It went right through the barriers and into the reception area.”

Name of train operator?

15 posted on 9/29/2016, 6:14:36 AM by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)

quote:

To: milford421

Didn’t a homeless guy find a sabotage device on a NJ track a few weeks ago when IEDs were going off?


16 posted on 9/29/2016, 6:18:04 AM by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)

quote:

To: bramps

Name of train operator?

Anymore, when something happens like this, that's the first thing I think.......Muslim?

17 posted on 9/29/2016, 6:19:13 AM by Right Brother

quote:

To: bramps

Is there a terrorist proof door to Conductor
(Engineer, Motorman) area?


22 posted on 9/29/2016, 6:22:11 AM by Gadsden1st

quote:

To: milford421

Muslim train conductor?


23 posted on 9/29/2016, 6:24:12 AM by Robert DeLong

quote:

To: bramps

Name of train operator?

I'm guessing something like mohammad Achmed Jihadi.

Or was that the name of the guy who fixed the brakes?

39 posted on 9/29/2016, 6:33:10 AM by null and void (America is sick. We will find out if the disease is fatal come November.)

quote:

To: milford421

I wonder why....

It’s to the point now where the first thing I think is jihad.


40 posted on 9/29/2016, 6:33:20 AM by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)

quote:

To: Right Brother; bramps

Name of train operator?

Anymore, when something happens like this, that's the first thing I think.......Muslim?

Great minds think alike.

44 posted on 9/29/2016, 6:35:06 AM by rdl6989

quote:

To: bramps

Was he muttering random phrases like Aloha Snack-bar just before the crash?


46 posted on 9/29/2016, 6:36:19 AM by Gamecock (Gun owner. Christian. Pro-American. Pro Law and Order. I am in the basket of deplorables.)

quote:

To: ELS

If it was a Jihadi seeking Paradise by killing Infidels, mosques must have explosive “accidents” in their basement armories.


54 posted on 9/29/2016, 6:41:26 AM by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)

quote:

To: ETL

If I had to guess, cellphone interruptis. If the age of the engineer is 35 or under then the odds are 100%.


74 posted on 9/29/2016, 6:51:43 AM by outpostinmass2

quote:

To: null and void

If this is terrorism, I’ll bet you a dollar that he’s a Hilary voter and so’s his dad.


97 posted on 9/29/2016, 7:01:23 AM by floriduh voter (Send Barry from the white house to the big house (never happen but I can dream.))

quote:

To: floriduh voter

current slogan for America: They were running for their lives. (three dead reported by Faux News, expect numbers to go up.) Expect admonishment later by the POTUS for our behavior.


136 posted on 9/29/2016, 7:17:34 AM by floriduh voter (Send Barry from the white house to the big house (never happen but I can dream.))

quote:

To: Vermont Lt

Was the driver’s name Achmed?


158 posted on 9/29/2016, 7:31:18 AM by umgud (ban all infidelaphobics)

quote:

To: milford421

Did the driver/operator announce , “allahu akbar” before the crash ?


161 posted on 9/29/2016, 7:33:31 AM by butlerweave

quote:

To: floriduh voter

Gee, I have some guesses but they will say he’s Hispanic.

You reckon Ahal muhumud akbar is Mexican?

162 posted on 9/29/2016, 7:33:58 AM by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)

quote:

To: metmom

muzzies don’t do accidents.


204 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:02:22 AM by Iron head mike (Dirty deeds done dirt cheap)

quote:

To: mrsmith

No the candidates were not given the questions in advance. The chosen “questions” we’re given to L Holt right before the debate began, by one democrat nominee.


4 posted on 9/29/2016, 5:22:11 AM by conservative_cyclist (I want my parents country back!)

quote:

To: mrsmith

“Nonetheless this is strange beyond all I’ve ever seen.”....

Anyone who deals with anything connected to Hitlary will tell you she will stop at NOTHING to get HER WAY, PERIOD! Why do you think there have been soooooo many strange and unexplained deaths with people connected to her directly or indirectly?


7 posted on 9/29/2016, 5:25:11 AM by DaveA37

quote:

To: mrsmith

Has anyone noticed that the cleaner puts his right hand in his pocket very briefly to put something in there after he has moved away from the podium but before he walks over towards Lester Holt with the others? Reminds me of shoplifters doing that same thing with small items. I wonder what it was.


12 posted on 9/29/2016, 5:45:38 AM by FamiliarFace

quote:

To: detective

And his ex-wife, Jane, just died in a car crash.....hmmmm.


17 posted on 9/29/2016, 6:56:25 AM by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)

quote:

To: faucetman

The referenced site has remarkable video I've not seen elsewhere. The video of the podium light going off and the Cleaner getting a box/device while being blocked by Clintoons is damning. The is NOTHING honest about the *itch.

CLEARLY, the podium height issue was a ruse so that they could make their own electronic adjustments. It's also clear NBC is a co-conspirator in understanding and allowing thus ruse.

There's speculation the podium light is a teleprompter. It may just be extra light to make Hillary look "brighter".

This is a scandal of national importance. If this can be done in national TV, what lawlessness will they practice when others can't see?

20 posted on 9/29/2016, 7:15:55 AM by The Truth Will Make You Free

quote:

To: detective

An inspection team, from EACH candidate’s side, should be able to come on stage and inspect the opposing candidate’s podium/lectern, just moments before the debate starts. Each team could include a techie to inspect any electronic gear.

Candidates should also be “wanded” for electronic gear, as they climb on stage.

Yes, it’s gotten that bad, sigh...


22 posted on 9/29/2016, 7:31:24 AM by moovova

quote:

To: itsahoot

Things change as do languages.

There is nothing wrong with pushing back, especially if the changes are pushed by people trying to shape the language for political or philosophical ends.

32 posted on 9/29/2016, 9:09:11 AM by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)

quote:

To: Whenifhow

I saw this on Twitter this am - when I watched it my mouth dropped open.
I don’t like kookiness, I know this looks kooky, but it’s not. This is dead serious.

Watch the video of the guy meeting the clintons at the limo, then pre-debate he put stuff in her podium then post debate he took it away. Something nefarious is going on. Big League!


5 posted on 9/29/2016, 6:52:28 AM by major-pelham

quote:

To: Whenifhow

The actions of the cleaner, and his conspiratorial nod to Holt does raise suspicions. However, I cannot make out a teleprompter in those videos. I can certainly believe they did it; but I do not see it.


21 posted on 9/29/2016, 7:24:07 AM by Sans-Culotte ("Political Correctness is communist propaganda writ small" - Theodore Dalrymple)

quote:

To: From The Deer Stand

The lecterns should be treated as seriously as NFL footballs. Under strict security and under lock and key until kickoff, then carefully accounted for throughout the game.


25 posted on 9/29/2016, 7:29:51 AM by ProtectOurFreedom

quote:

To: ReaganGeneration2

Memorial Service Pending for Ex-Wife of NBC’s George Lewis

Is there anyway to find out if George Lewis was still paying alimony? Maybe this accident was George Lewis's reward for "helping out".

38 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:05:58 AM by Qathleen (“I think patriotism is like charity — it begins at home” » Henry James)

quote:

To: Sans-Culotte

The raised white plastic looking portion in the front of the podium, on the back side facing Hillary, just able to be seen by the debaters, Trump and Clinton, could easily be a screen on Hillary’s podium. I was immediately suspicious when I saw those podiums since they had a raised ledge on the top on all three sides, and sides, and my first thought was there would be a TV screen on the flat top of Hillary’s (similar to screens set into bars in casinos to permit gambling as you had cocktails). Now that people are mentioning a teleprompter and I saw the vacated back side of these podiums, I suspect now it was located on the inside front lip of the podium. We all know cheating would be involved, coz’ Hillary was involved.


40 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:15:56 AM by kiltie65

quote:

To: CaptainPhilFan

That is hard to do sober. There are plenty of roads like that in SoCal, and this was a straight steady freeway. How did she fall off that road? Sure, could have been cell phone texting... Or alcohol...

Good thing her death didn’t stop him from his political tweeting, or even cause him to say something about his loss.

And his mourning didn’t keep him from helping Hillary cheat. Or was he afraid the same would happen to him or his kid(s)?


48 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:48:42 AM by Yaelle

quote:

To: Ann Archy

Ex wife knew too much about the fix and HRC knows all about women scorned.


59 posted on 9/29/2016, 9:52:17 AM by TADSLOS (Vote Trump. Defeat the Clinton Crime Syndicate. Reset America.)

quote:

To: Kaslin

He gambled that he could just play not to lose while he sized her up which is exactly what happened. She did the best she possibly could and lost ground. He can’t help but be better in the next two debates.

Those on our side who moan “Oh he should have said this or done that” have to answer this question, “Since Trump got about 71% of about 5 million online “Who won?” votes and has gone up or maintained his lead in national polls since Monday how badly did he do?”


3 posted on 9/29/2016, 4:37:06 AM by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)

quote:

To: Kaslin

No matter how the Democrat media tries to pump up interest in these phony debates, Hillary will have the “audience-generated questions” before the next debate, as she did this time. She cheats ALL the time. The video this morning of one of her lackeys retrieving her notes from her podium and giving the folder to Lester Holt, the Hillary house-boy/moderator, certainly begs to be looked into. Of course, it’s probably been shredded by now, but someone should demand some answers and see what lie she can come up with.


5 posted on 9/29/2016, 4:38:51 AM by txrefugee

quote:

To: Kaslin

Trump needs to point out to the audience that when Hillary is nervous... “She smiles more..” This will put her in a double bind where she is afraid to smile and appears more nervous... and... it’s true!!!


6 posted on 9/29/2016, 4:42:33 AM by tired&retired (Blessings)

quote:

To: Kaslin

I like that Hitlery wore all red. I couldn’t figure out if she was trying to appear as Satan or was just in full commie mode.


7 posted on 9/29/2016, 4:43:47 AM by GrandJediMasterYoda (By His wounds we are healed.)

quote:

To: jmaroneps37

He’s smart, he knew if he went into that first debate guns blazing people would have been taken aback and viewed it negatively. Now people are ASKING him to do it!


8 posted on 9/29/2016, 4:45:22 AM by GrandJediMasterYoda (By His wounds we are healed.)

quote:

To: Kaslin

I think that the AV sound guy was playing with the microphones and adjusting them to pick up Trump’s sniffle.

The sound board has an equalizer that allows for that specific frequency to be amplified or diminished. It is an easy adjustment as it is off spectrum with the vocals.

I would say that it was purposeful. I can do that same thing with the microphone adjustments... especially if I use a directional microphone and aim it upward toward his nose while Hillary’s microphone was aimed at her mouth.


14 posted on 9/29/2016, 4:59:24 AM by tired&retired (Blessings)

quote:

To: Kaslin

On reflection, President Trump's hesitation to attack Monica's ex-boyfriend's Husband reminds me of Esther in the Bible- her hesitation to attack Haman was fortuitous, because in the interim the King was told the story of Mordecai saving his life.

The 3-week afterjudgement of the debate is setting up for President Trump to totally destroy Hillary in the next two debates.

16 posted on 9/29/2016, 5:02:13 AM by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)

quote:

To: Kaslin

Trump threw away the first debate to win the election.

He had to look presidential to undecideds and low info voters.

In that respect he succeeded brilliantly.


18 posted on 9/29/2016, 5:06:06 AM by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))

quote:

To: jmaroneps37

“He gambled that he could just play not to lose while he sized her up which is exactly what happened. She did the best she possibly could and lost ground. He can’t help but be better in the next two debates.”

She has nothing left to throw at Trump. She used it all up in the first debate. All Hillary has now is sexist, homophobe, racist. Trump meanwhile fired one shot and hit her square in the jaw. And he is just warming up.


23 posted on 9/29/2016, 5:24:01 AM by EQAndyBuzz (Lester Holt — Clinton House Boy.)

quote:

To: Kaslin

Some very good points. I agree that hitting several or even one home run in the first debate may have actually been a curse. The fact that he did not make any major gaffes and when real fact checkers who had the time after the debate found and reported that Trump was right, was a delayed triple at least. Like so many times before, Trump declared wrong only to be proven correct later on which takes the wind right out of the sails of those against him.

Winner, winner, White House dinners, for Donald Trump & family for at least 4 years!!!

26 posted on 9/29/2016, 5:39:09 AM by Robert DeLong

quote:

To: EQAndyBuzz

“She has nothing left to throw at Trump. She used it all up in the first debate.”

I think you are right. I was surprised at how many times she hit him with low blows as well. Camp Clinton was surely in panic mode and had to throw everything out there, true or just made up lies.

Id I were an undecided voter, I would take it as desperation, especially the bit about Trump’s taxes. Way over the top Harry Reid stuff!!


29 posted on 9/29/2016, 5:58:55 AM by MaxistheBest

quote:

To: EQAndyBuzz

The next one is a town hall format. How are the people in the audience chosen? It seems that the Clinton people can arrange for a lot of “planted” gotcha questions from “ordinary citizens.”


31 posted on 9/29/2016, 6:17:51 AM by Verginius Rufus

quote:

To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Because red has now become associated with conservative. And people are trying to encourage conservatives to wear red on election day, especially when they go to vote. I am betting she is trying to counter the red/conservative connection.

The liberal media tried to take away our traditional blue color and saddled us with “commie red”. We have made it our own and it now has a primarily positive connotation. So it’s time for liberals to do the swap again. Because they have to keep running away from the associations they have created for themselves.


33 posted on 9/29/2016, 6:25:58 AM by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)

quote:

To: 9YearLurker

It would have been against the debate rules for Trump to have a copy of anything with him.

. . . which is one more thing, IMHO, that is wrong with the format of the “debates.”

1. There should be no moderator.
   
   
2. Air time should be equalized between the two candidate by the simple expedient of letting the candidates control their microphones via a chess timer.
   
   
3. Not only should the candidates be allowed to have notes, they should have each have a laptop, both wired into a common web site - and each capable of putting Power Point graphics on the TV screen (provided that the chess timer is set to allow it).
   
   
4. The web site - perhaps two web sites, one constructed by each candidate - would be negotiated in advance, so that each had a fair chance to put up rebuttal graphics for the web site of the other.
   
   
5. Each candidate could, perhaps, have a second who could control the computer for him/her.
   
   
6. I am ambivalent about earpieces; exactly why would you not want the candidate to have access to such? The objective ought to be to have the clearest articulation of the platform on which the candidate is running. Most of the specified limitations of debates as we know them are designed to promote the possibility of a "gaffe.” Not to put a fine point on it, they are designed to promote the possibility of a gaffe by the Republican.

36 posted on 9/29/2016, 10:23:48 AM by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)

McGlockenshire posted:

From Trump broke Cuban embargo, report says [Miami media going crazy] posted by freeper SoFloFreeper

A protip for the freepers: if the entire MSM ignores a story, chances are that it's not real.


REAL. SERIOUS. CRIMES.



Oh by the way it's the cover story on this week's Newsweek


We have a real Baghdad Bob here.



The answer is "the Cuban embargo made it literally illegal for any US citizen or organization to send any money to / spend any money in Cuba whatsoever, period"

I mean honestly they're right in that this isn't a huge world-destroying story, but Newsweek thought it important enough to make it their cover this week so...


Yup, they're in full denial that either it happened or that it was illegal.


what?


Also the thread is full of copypasta from ETL. It's all poo poo.

quote:

To: ChicagoConservative27

Isn’t PPP the one that asks incredibly negative questions about Trump only? Like what’s better, bed bugs or Trump...


3 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:15:04 AM by Voluntaryist

quote:

To: UKrepublican

In one of the other threads, I posted the internals. They way oversampled Dems in the PPP polls:

Florida - D+8
North Carolina - D+9
Pennsylvania - D+8
Virginia - D+5


5 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:16:21 AM by mrs9x

quote:

To: ChicagoConservative27

I do, too. The debate is being used the way I expected. The MSM claim Hillary "cleaned his clock" and had gained momentum, neither of which is true. It's simply typical deceptive advertising. It's like when the networks claim a show is "the #1 new show!". What they don't says is "#1 new show!*"

*among people who don't eat veal.

6 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:17:21 AM by Sans-Culotte ("Political Correctness is communist propaganda writ small" - Theodore Dalrymple)

quote:

To: ChicagoConservative27

This was the planned result before the debate - so when the debate doesn’t turn out as expected they stick to the plan. The MSM is the DNC’s most dedicated work force.


10 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:18:05 AM by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])

quote:

Just imagine if Trump had been aggressive in the debate what the backlash would have been. They would have said she won no matter what.


12 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:18:50 AM by TakebackGOP

quote:

To: Voluntaryist

Isn’t this the group that the leaked email showed being threatened by Hillary that they were about to lose their 750k/month gig if they didn’t come up with better polls?


14 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:19:26 AM by Aria (2016: The gravy train v Donald Trump)

quote:

To: ChicagoConservative27

Assume it’s true and work like the dickens to change it.

Some of us recall the same charges about the Obama/Romney polls, and that one hurt. Bad.


17 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:19:58 AM by JusPasenThru (Democrat mantra: Promise Everything, Deliver Nothing, Blame Others)

quote:

To: ChicagoConservative27

Riddle me this... 99% of the polls the day after the debate showed Trump up and winning the debate. Now three days later, they say he is down because of the debate...


20 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:23:38 AM by wright2bear

quote:

To: ChicagoConservative27

The poll of Nov 8 counts.

But Trump allowed her to take the first debate, and it should be reflected in current polls.

It is simply imperative, for him to show up big time, for debates 2 and 3.

No excuses.


27 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:25:34 AM by truth_seeker

quote:

To: Sans-Culotte

The debate was the vehicle by which the MSM was going to re-establish the post convention bounce. What a crock.


32 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:28:10 AM by FlipWilson

quote:

quote:

To: knarf
“I think it was an electronic wave of some sort to keep her from passing out, coughing, losing her grip ... whatever...”

What other conditions and diseases does Electronic Wave Therapy cure?

22 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:24:52 AM by Timpanagos1

To: Timpanagos1

NO clue, I merely made the speed discovery and watched the debate.

Her light was on while she was walking back to the lectern at the start of the debate (rear camera shows them both approaching their lecterns), and Trump had no light at all.

After the debate, hillary's light stayed on until after she physically left the lectern ... and of course, there was no light at Trump's.

My wave conclusion is based on what I have seen and read in the past about technology without really KNOWING what it is I read or saw.

Just that there is research and perhaps development in that area.

35 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:30:45 AM by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but, they're true ... and it pisses people off)

quote:

To: JonPreston

He should listen to Rudy’s advice and skip the remaining debates!!!
Granted he wasn’t adequately prepared for the first debate.
Still, it became two (HRC and Holt) against one.
The second debate will be even worse with three (HRC, Cooper and Raddatz) against one.
And, appearing in the final debate, moderated by Wallace, is out of the question. He is just as unacceptable as Megyn Kelly and will, no doubt, be another willing accomplice to aid her.
Why do GOP nominees accept these horrible biased debate stipulations???!!!


38 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:34:09 AM by edie1960

quote:

To: Zarro

No this is a poll of voter preference, not debate outcome. On that question the results in all States gave the win heavily to Clinton.

To be clear I do not put much credibility in these huge swings, especially in such a short time and over something like a debate which historically almost NEVER moves the needle much or for any period of time.

Finally we don’t seem to have any trend lines from PPP to determine any strengthening of Clintons position.

I do believe these “results” and storylines about the debate were all written before the actual debate and Clinton would have been declared the big winner in every case save she passed out midway through. Even then the Lib media would have claimed it was Trumps fault for being too aggressive.


39 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:35:35 AM by billyboy15

quote:

To: Sans-Culotte

It’s called Gaslighting.

The gaslight media is gaslighting us.


41 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:35:55 AM by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)

quote:

To: ChicagoConservative27

Every election cycle people on FR are yelling about the poles being wrong. Now we are going to attack Rasmussen? He was THE MAN on FR in 2012. Look, Trump was terrible in the debate, he was AWFUL. Blame the poles, accuse Hillary of cheating, make any excuses you want but it does not change the fact that Hillary kicked his rear end. Now our boy is a quick study and I am sure that he will crush her in the next two debates but let’s be grown-ups and look at the truth, Trump sounded like a bumbling idiot,let’s hope he learned something and comes back with a vengeance.


49 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:39:46 AM by 12chachacha (Sucker??)

quote:

To: truth_seeker

And he will. The man doesn’t have two bad appearances in a row. Attack, attack, and attack. Who cares what the MSM will say the next day. Millions of Americans want this woman taken to the political woodshed and Trump didn’t do that on Monday. I’m sure Ivanka, Eric and Donald Jr got in his ear and told him his passive attacks on Hillary have to be escalated.


51 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:40:57 AM by dowcaet (.)

quote:

To: ChicagoConservative27

Yep this is big time BS! you can’t have a swing almost overnight when most of the polls were having Trump ahead in all the battleground states. This is just a push poll to demoralize voters but they are going to get a big wake up call when the REAL citizens vote in November.

GO TRUMP/PENCE

53 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:42:44 AM by vinny29

quote:

To: 12chachacha

Trump didn’t do great in the debate, but again, he didn’t need to.

Undecideds by and large have already written off Hillary... they are only watching to decide if they can vote for Trump or not, and in that debate he came out looking reasonable, and that’s all he had to do.

Polls that have tracked such things, how many undecideds changed their minds... The trend is clear, the range is 3 to 1 to 7 to 1 depending on the poll went Trump vs HIllary if they made a decision out of the debate.

Hillary isn’t up anywhere, she sure didn’t take any lead in FL or NC... this is gas lighting folks... nothing more. Come back in a week.


58 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:44:29 AM by HamiltonJay

quote:

To: 12chachacha

What debate did you watch? The one I watched saw him doing well. Folk's Trump will be just fine. Lets GET OUT THE VOTE

61 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:45:05 AM by vinny29

quote:

To: ChicagoConservative27

I think they were trying everything they could to get under Trump’s skin.

The lying, the handsignals and bias are perfect examples of the dishonesty that Trump so often rails against.

I believe Trump handled himself very well in that situation.

He was calm and decent and IMO Hillary looks very bad in comparison.

All I thought of during the debate is what a lying conniving b$@ch she is.

If Trump would have completely unloaded on her it would have distracted from that point.

Trump is handing her enough rope to hang herself.

He’s very good at that.


64 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:46:30 AM by Califreak (Vote for Batman!)

quote:

To: ChicagoConservative27

With all this BS polling they think they can get away with massive voter fraud... they will just say that all the polls showed her ahead.

That is why signs on your lawn and rallies are important- they show a YUGE enthusiasm gap.

When Trump consistently has to TURN AWAY more people than usually attend a HilLIARy rally, that shows the real feelings people have.

DON’T FORGET TO WEAR RED ON ELECTION DAY to show you are a Trump supporter. (Or, preferably Red, White, and Blue)


70 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:50:01 AM by Mr. K (< a href="https://imgflip.com/i/1adpjl">< img src="https://i.imgflip.com/1adpjl.jpg" title="made at im)

quote:

To: rockinqsranch

“It’s OK. Rest easy. No Problem. PPP is as believable as Hillary Clinton.”

-—Guys we need to stop. We did this in 2012 about the polls and were all very disappointed. Trump’s lack of preparation for the debate showed and I think it’s costing him the momentum it took almost 2 months to get back. Unless Trump can score a MAJOR win in the next debate I’m not sure that momentum will come back.

From now on until election day Trump will be on defense (Miss Universe, Trump in Cuba BS, ect) unless he can do something like score a MAJOR win in the next debate.

We need to stop spending all our time saying the polls are rigged (I do think some, not all, are agenda driven), and Hillary cheated at debates (even if true she’s done much worse and no consequences), and just look at the reality that Trump might be in trouble.

PS: not a newbie, not a troll, or any other names you can think of. I’m simply concerned Trump is in trouble


73 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:51:35 AM by MichelleWSC3

quote:

To: ChicagoConservative27

If the media is reporting anything political, it’s a lie.


74 posted on 9/29/2016, 8:52:22 AM by Rebelbase (Bill and Hillary for ADX Supermax!)

quote:

To: JusPasenThru

Trump is no Romney

Hillary had her Romney moment with the deplorable comment, she just energized rural and suburban America and it doesn’t look good for her

Just like Romney energized Urban and black America with his 47% comment and it did not look good for him after that.

Don’t compare Trump to Romney, if anything compare Hillary to Romney


80 posted on 9/29/2016, 9:01:45 AM by arl295

quote:

To: 12chachacha

Look, Trump was terrible in the debate, he was AWFUL. Blame the poles, accuse Hillary of cheating, make any excuses you want but it does not change the fact that Hillary kicked his rear end.

I'm glad that somebody else saw this. He was unprepared for the debate and actually admitted as much at one point on the stage. That admission created a mile-wide opening for Hillary, through which she drove her verbal tank at 50 mph by saying, "That's right, Donald...I did prepare for this debate. And you know what else I prepared for...I prepared to become President of the United States!"

In a one-on-one debate, you never leave your opponent an opening like that. Trump opened the door, and she steamrolled right over him with that line. With that gaffe, he managed to make her look far more accomplished than she actually is. With Trump committing blunders like that, Hillary didn't even need to cheat. At the moment he admitted that he had not prepared for the debate, Hillary probably couldn't believe her good luck in being handed (gift-wrapped, no less!) a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to portray herself as far more adroit than she really is.

The whole thing was pretty much over at that point, considering that she came out of that exchange looking like Superwoman. Now, while these debates aren't going to change any minds that are already made up, they can have an influence on the decision processes of people who are still undecided. Those are the people Trump needs to convince, and I just can't see any undecided voters moving into the Trump column based on Monday's event.

Say whatever you will about Ted Cruz, but if I were with the Trump campaign, I'd be asking Cruz if he has any advice that will help Trump avoid a repeat of Monday's debacle.

99 posted on 9/29/2016, 9:37:36 AM by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})

quote:

To: 12chachacha

Amen. Regardless of what she was doing or saying, he had plenty of ammunition going into the debate. He didn’t use it and it’s not because he was cleverly saving it, it was that he did not have even a remote plan of his own and if he did, he forgot it.


102 posted on 9/29/2016, 9:44:35 AM by Toespi

quote:

To: Ann de IL

Trump had lots of primary debates. He did pretty much what he did on Monday night during those events. One or two line jabs, repetition about bad trade deals, the occasional zinger etc. It was never amazingly good, but it was good enough in a crowded field of not-so-exciting opponents.

Unfortunately, he apparently thought that approach would be good enough for a one-on-one in his first general election debate, the most important debate of his life.


110 posted on 9/29/2016, 10:15:58 AM by Dagnabitt (Trump - Because countries without Islamic immigration are countries without Islamic terrorism.)

quote:

To: MichelleWSC3

Concern trolls say Trump goofed.

To put it differently, this was to be expected.

Its the MSM after all. Some polls show Trump ahead and some show him behind.

Its worth pointing out here Mitt Romney NEVER led in any mainstream poll after Labor Day.

Trump has been up in a couple of polls.

And yes, several of them are way off because they use 2012 turnout as a baseline and turnout this year will NOT be D +6.

Relax.


112 posted on 9/29/2016, 10:24:04 AM by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))

Night10194 posted:

Why are there more registered Democrats, anyway? Is it because Democrats are less likely to be ashamed enough of our party to say we're 'actually Independent'?

quote:

I think that box inside the podium was a special relay receiver/transmitter designed to defeat jamming attempts. If the channel they were using detected interference, it would automatically shift to another channel. Only a broad-band jamming device would have been able to knock out the signal. Then other things like wiFi and the wireless mics would have stopped working. People would look for the source of the interference and that would be trouble.

60 posted on 9/29/2016, 2:04:05 PM by jonrick46