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In Training posted:I watched a video of Civ VI and it looks identical to Civ V it's a lot different --read inbetween the lines
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anyway, next Tuesday is Rights of Man release and then the map thread can be get back on track
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What's a good map game to start with? I've always wanted to try the genre but it seems so impenetrable
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Oct 4, 2016 19:12
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Crusader Kings 2
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but Hell, I figured out dwarf fortress when I was 14 (NOT last week) I can figure out map games as well.
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rediscover posted:This is now the Civ thread rediscover posted:What's a good map game to start with?  noobs
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rediscover posted:What's a good map game to start with? I've always wanted to try the genre but it seems so impenetrable Just pick whatever time period you are interested in I guess
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Oct 4, 2016 20:16
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rediscover posted:What's a good map game to start with? I've always wanted to try the genre but it seems so impenetrable TheLovablePlutonis posted:Crusader Kings 2 This, or perhaps EU4. I think EU4 is a bit easier to get into now, over CK2, although I think the dynasty/semi-RPG mechanics add more variety to the game and keeps things new, even if you replay the same country again later on.
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eu4 is probably easier to get into (and a better game) but ck2 is much more unique
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Oct 4, 2016 20:20
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What one is more fun to play, and what's this I hear about rpg elements. I want the game with the most of those but it's good because of it
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Sorry if that post doesn't make sense, irony poisoning has severely hosed up my grammar
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rediscover posted:What one is more fun to play, and what's this I hear about rpg elements. I want the game with the most of those but it's good because of it In CK2 you're running a country, but only as a means to getting your own monarch and family ahead. Lots of events and decisions don't do much for the country as a whole, but they have effects upon the person you are playing as. You're free to expand into a country by intermarriage and assassination rather than by warfare, if you like. EU4 is a straight grand strategy game and there aren't really any characters in it, just abstract countries; monarchs only exist as a set of numbers. So that's what it is. Vicky 2 is my favorite but it's weird and hard
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Hmm CK2 is sounding more my stroke. might check it out. thx guys
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Oct 4, 2016 20:55
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rediscover posted:Hmm CK2 is sounding more my stroke. might check it out. thx guys If/when you do get it, the general rule of thumb is to start off in Ireland, as that's a good location to get the hang of all the basic mechanics without being completely thrown into the deep end (but also not being totally isolated, so that later on when you feel you're ready, you can throw yourself into the deep end and invade France or something)
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:Civ6 is gonna be a fuckload of rear end
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Oct 5, 2016 00:12
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Lol drat it's 40 bucks. I was thinking it would be like 25. I'll think about it
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rediscover posted:Lol drat it's 40 bucks. I was thinking it would be like 25. I'll think about it Paradox has a sale every 2 months or so and CK2 and all the dlcs are usually at 75% on it
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:Paradox has a sale every 2 months or so and CK2 and all the dlcs are usually at 75% on it Dope. Ima chill til then
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Oct 5, 2016 00:22
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https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-26-considerable-converter-capabilities.972157/ cool, apparently they are overhauling the CK2 converter after all the changes
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rediscover posted:Dope. Ima chill til then Yeah, everything in that DLC list seems really expensive (because well...it is!), but if you wait for a sale and just get the major expansions, it's pretty reasonably-priced. As for expansions, I'd recommend starting with Legacy of Rome, Way of Life, Conclave+Reaper's Due maybe, as well as perhaps Old Gods. (Since the Viking starts are basically the best) After that, just get whatever suits you - want to play as a merchant republic? Get The Republic. Want to play as a Muslim ruler? Get Sword of Islam. etc. etc. TheLovablePlutonis posted:https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-26-considerable-converter-capabilities.972157/ cool, apparently they are overhauling the CK2 converter after all the changes Oh nice, this is the first I've heard of them updating it! It'll be good to finally be able to convert another CK2 save, after the years the converter has been broken for. (Still can't believe that they never fixed it though - pretty sure it only worked for EU4 v1.0 and that month's version of CK2, before breaking like, weeks later or something haha
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i remember playing a bigass CKII game as Norse with the intent to convert to EU4 on release day but after conquering like 60% of the map and still having hundreds of years to end date left I stopped playing that file and Ive never launched CKII since
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I really wanna start a EU file but I have to practice restraint beforre the patch.
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In Training posted:I really wanna start a EU file but I have to practice restraint beforre the patch. Yeah same, I know what you mean - I had a game where I formed an Irish republic (with territories all over the place in different trade nodes, like Gibraltar, parts of Sicily, etc.) and had to basically stop all expansion for the last hundred years or so, so I wouldn't become completely OP once I convert to EU4. However because of this I accumulated a huge fortune, and when you export from CK2>EU4 for whatever reason they seem to multiply your current funds by like x10, so I started off with more wealth than the rest of the world combined, and was OP in the end anyway.  I was constantly losing money throughout EU4 (partially by having multiple colonies over my cap being built, which normally creates huge financial losses) and only started to run out of money right towards the end of the game.Heh, on the plus side though, you can (or at least could, when it last worked properly) export CK2 games at any time, and it'll just fast-forward the date. So you could have Charlemagne colonizing the Americas, if you really want!
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Major Isoor posted:
Oh maybe this will be my gimmick for the new patch run...gotta think of what goofy time travel stuff I could do
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Yeah you play CKII for 400 years and then transfer the file and the world state transfers into the next time period/mechanics and you play for another hundred years. You used to be able to convert to Vicky for the 19th/20th century and then convert to hearts of iron for WWII
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That's crazy duder o.0
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Paradox needs to make a Bush era video game so I can wage proxy war on 3rd world soil.
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In Training posted:Yeah you play CKII for 400 years and then transfer the file and the world state transfers into the next time period/mechanics and you play for another hundred years. You used to be able to convert to Vicky for the 19th/20th century and then convert to hearts of iron for WWII I remember when people were posting about wanting an Rome>CK2 converter ages ago, even. So that you could then go from Rome>CK2>EU3 (I don't think EU4 was released yet, then)>Vic1/2>HoI2. As interesting as I'm sure that might be, I'm certain it would get soo stale once you hit CK2 or maybe EU, since you'd just be so big and powerful (with the only other European nations being huge blobs too, and no OPMs existing) that you wouldn't be able to do anything without getting into a huge, drawn-out fight with your superpower neighbours.
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Yeah conversion has always seemed interesting in theory but each game is balanced to be played by itself so you always end up scaling past the next time period. I guess the dream game would be something like a Paradox version of spore that covers Rome to Space and takes all their game mechanics and breaks the scale out so you go through all 6 eras in one file, one game.
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In Training posted:Paradox needs to make a Bush era video game so I can wage proxy war on 3rd world soil. me right sfter switching over to EU4 immediately following 400 in game years of CK2 with diff mechanics and everything: War has changed
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Oct 5, 2016 01:38
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march of the eagles was 5 dollars so i bought it
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I think i made a mistake
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it's no good
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In Training posted:Yeah conversion has always seemed interesting in theory but each game is balanced to be played by itself so you always end up scaling past the next time period. I guess the dream game would be something like a Paradox version of spore that covers Rome to Space and takes all their game mechanics and breaks the scale out so you go through all 6 eras in one file, one game. Terra Universalis would be a badass game.
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Stairmaster posted:I think i made a mistake BBJoey posted:it's no good From what I've heard, yeah it's not supposed to be great. Sort of like Sengoku was apparently a sort of 'test run' for CK2's engine, MotE is the same deal, but for EU4's engine. I'd uh, recommend getting a refund on it* and then putting the $5 towards EU4 * If you've played it for less than two hours, the refund request being made within a couple of weeks of the game being purchased and as long as you sacrifice a newborn baby on the next night with full moon. Terms and conditions apply. (Certainly seems this way a bit, at least) Major Isoor fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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Larry Parrish posted:Terra Universalis would be a badass game. I think it's too big to work but drat if I don't want it
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Started a CKII file in Ireland with gender equality on and shattered retreat off. According to steam I haven't launched this game since 2012
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Major Isoor posted:From what I've heard, yeah it's not supposed to be great. Sort of like Sengoku was apparently a sort of 'test run' for CK2's engine, MotE is the same deal, but for EU4's engine. march of the eagles was made by a different studio, "paradox france", formerly and afterward known as AGEOD. (MotE was enough of a fiasco that Paradox ended up dropping the entire studio and finishing the game in-house.) it has some fun ideas (March To The Sound Of Guns) and seems like it'd be fun in multiplayer - but how on earth are you going to get a multiplayer game of March of the Eagles together?
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PleasingFungus posted:march of the eagles was made by a different studio, "paradox france", formerly and afterward known as AGEOD. (MotE was enough of a fiasco that Paradox ended up dropping the entire studio and finishing the game in-house.) Using this forum
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