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Please. Please poo poo all over the person who you hired to make you look sane by proximity.
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For reference, The Atlantic has only endorsed two other times: https://twitter.com/YAppelbaum/status/783751531728363520
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Compulsory voting got the Australians a government that puts immigrants in camps. Also, isn't one of the bigger reasons for low turnout for dems in midterms that more dems are, you know, working their asses off and getting time off and transport is harder for them?
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:For reference, The Atlantic has only endorsed two other times: Pretty impressive that they predicted LBJ v Goldwater in 1864
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theflyingorc posted:I've never found the argument compelling that making people who don't care have to make a choice is necessarily better for democracy. Not really, you just fine the people who don't have an ID.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:For reference, The Atlantic has only endorsed two other times: I want to see that timeline, where LBJ and Goldwater go back to 1864 and have a fistfight on top of their time machine.
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theflyingorc posted:Pretty impressive that they predicted LBJ v Goldwater in 1864 It takes a long time to make a dick that big.
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Night10194 posted:Yes please. false alarm https://twitter.com/MattNegrin/status/783753676770963456 it's clear the choice is so-called, not pence. easily can be read as "pence was so obviously the best he wasn't even a choice"
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Night10194 posted:I want to see that timeline, where LBJ and Goldwater go back to 1864 and have a fistfight on top of their time machine. There was an actor that saw that fight and his only take away was that states rights were sacred, not the two people fighting atop a time machine.
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Night10194 posted:Also, isn't one of the bigger reasons for low turnout for dems in midterms that more dems are, you know, working their asses off and getting time off and transport is harder for them? Yeah. Plus there's nothing about making a compulsory voting law ensures the voting ill actually be accessible to all. If say Oklahoma passed a mandatory voting law today I'd bet you anything that they wouldn't make voting any easier, and would happily rake in fines from the people who couldn't vote.
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Uh oh, Trump is upping his average reading level language from 3rd grade to 5th grade. This is the pivot!!!!
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Oct 5, 2016 20:50
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boner confessor posted:false alarm Matt Negrin for first against the wall.
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Phone posted:Uh oh, Trump is upping his average reading level language from 3rd grade to 5th grade. This is the pivot!!!!
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boner confessor posted:false alarm or he's referencing the fact that he seemed to be forced to choose Pence at the time by his family and managers 
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Oct 5, 2016 20:50
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fishmech posted:Yeah. Plus there's nothing about making a compulsory voting law ensures the voting ill actually be accessible to all. If say Oklahoma passed a mandatory voting law today I'd bet you anything that they wouldn't make voting any easier, and would happily rake in fines from the people who couldn't vote. If I was instituting complusory voting, I'd actually do it the opposite way. If more than X people in your state didn't vote, you get fined by the Federal government.
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Oct 5, 2016 20:51
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Night10194 posted:Compulsory voting got the Australians a government that puts immigrants in camps. I'm pretty sure Australians did that, actually.
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fishmech posted:Yeah. Plus there's nothing about making a compulsory voting law ensures the voting ill actually be accessible to all. If say Oklahoma passed a mandatory voting law today I'd bet you anything that they wouldn't make voting any easier, and would happily rake in fines from the people who couldn't vote. Considering that it's incredibly en vogue to pile on fines (note: not taxes) for dumb bullshit, this is what would happen 100%. VRA 2.0 gets passed, and then Oklahoma gets to have a Supreme Court case about it because they had a single bus service a population center of 10K and that technically follows the law. Nessus posted:Going after those educated dames, I see. Going after that hot, hot, hot, hot middle school demographic.
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emdash posted:or he's referencing the fact that he seemed to be forced to choose Pence at the time by his family and managers That was my read.
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I fell asleep for 17 hours, did I miss anything interesting in the debates?
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lozzle posted:The reason they don't talk about this is because it is primarily Congress' fault for refusing to appropriate funds for more security. I seem to recall the Benghazi consulate going "eh, we good, any extra funds to Libya should go to the embassy as a higher value target with some security deficiencies". Which isn't to say they wouldn't have wanted money if there was enough to harden both places, of course!
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Oct 5, 2016 20:54
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Concordat posted:I fell asleep for 17 hours, did I miss anything interesting in the debates? Pence threw Trump under the bus, but made himself look good. Trump is capitalizing on this to make himself look legitmate. Kane got Pence to say a lot of things that look bad in the post-debate and Clinton is capitalizing on it by making a bunch of ads.
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Oct 5, 2016 20:55
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Concordat posted:I fell asleep for 17 hours, did I miss anything interesting in the debates? The start of Mike Pence's 2020 Presidential campaign.
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emdash posted:or he's referencing the fact that he seemed to be forced to choose Pence at the time by his family and managers as much as we would all love to see trump disown pence that's not what is happening in that statement
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Oct 5, 2016 20:56
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Also Trump is losing the election bigly again and is probably not going to have a good night Sunday.
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Oct 5, 2016 20:56
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boner confessor posted:false alarm He's viewing Pence as an extension of himself that makes him look good. It's the same way he treats Ivanka and others.
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Phone posted:Going after that hot, hot, hot, hot middle school demographic. Ivanka isn't in middle school anymore though.
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Oct 5, 2016 20:58
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Fitzy Fitz posted:He's viewing Pence as an extension of himself that makes him look good. It's the same way he treats Ivanka and others. to be fair that's pretty much what the VP is supposed to be in the VP debates.
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Oct 5, 2016 20:58
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Night10194 posted:I want to see that timeline, where LBJ and Goldwater go back to 1864 and have a fistfight on top of their time machine. LBJ run Reconstruction may have been pretty interesting, too.
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OddObserver posted:LBJ run Reconstruction may have been pretty interesting, too. Excuse me while I whip this out...
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A Texan getting elected in 1864 would have been... odd.
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Mandatory voting would get struck down as unconstitutional the moment someone signed it since it would be easy to prove that it is violating your first amendment right to free speech (the speech to vote for nobody). Especially if you ban write in voting. Also as people pointed out above it won't solve anything because voter education and involvement is the real problem.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:00
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The "so-called choice" wording is weird, but he was saying that picking a running mate was his first presidential action and it worked out great. "His first hire" as he put it afterward.
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Nessus posted:OK, chicken little, what is the negative thing we should worry about even if the Russians are in fact building disaster shelters out in Moscow. Mr. President we must not allow a mine shaft gap!
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Oct 5, 2016 21:01
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Phone posted:I'm loosely basing it off of second hand Australian stuff, where the main issue is that young people (18-25) aren't even registered. That's being fixed with automatic voter registration in states like NSW. fishmech posted:Yeah. Plus there's nothing about making a compulsory voting law ensures the voting ill actually be accessible to all. If say Oklahoma passed a mandatory voting law today I'd bet you anything that they wouldn't make voting any easier, and would happily rake in fines from the people who couldn't vote. Meanwhile Australia has Democracy Sausage sizzles and a proper electoral commission that does it's job. Oh wait, does that mean the Australian system of getting as many people to the ballot box and ensuring they can vote, while remaining an almost fully corruption free voting system .... works...????? Why.... yes it does. Idiots can still vote, but that's the price of having a voting system that isnt loving moronic like the USA.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:01
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Oh god yes please be happening. Trump picking a fight with his own VP pick days before the next debate would be amazing. A Winner is Jew posted:Authoritarian shithead says things to scare his counties population into continually supporting him in a desperate plea to stave off the ongoing economic collapse that he brought against them for being an authoritarian shithead. Look at who you just replied to.
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If people can't get the motivation/effort to vote once every couple of years*, I'm not sure if I want them voting. Mandatory voting seems like a bad idea. *obvious disclaimer for people who want to vote but can't because of not getting time off work or other circumstances. Elections should be a national holiday. E: VVV It would help a lot, just because it wouldn't help 100% doesn't mean we shouldn't do it. P.S. thanks for using at-will employment correctly. WampaLord fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Oct 5, 2016 |
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Even if it was made a national holiday you know a ton of people would basically be told 'You're coming in or you're fired.' on Election Day. Especially in at-will employment states.
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Sounds like the implicit national assumption here is that business owner authority matters more than democracy, which is, at least, unusually honest and consistent for the right
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