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How far off are we from a future where people vote via internet? Don't they do something like that in Estonia or somewhere?
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Rygar201 posted:Christ Alive, why did 49/50 states adopt At Will Employment?! Because 'business' is clearly more important than workers.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:33
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Lote posted:Potato has the super power of not being able to take a single good picture. The Koch bros have two forever orders with Potato. One of them is to never be photogenic.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:33
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Cythereal posted:Conservative American Christianity has problems. Left-wing Christianity in America generally adores Hillary (a quietly devout Methodist) and Kaine. Kaine's stance of "I personally do not approve of abortion due to religious conviction but don't think it should be the government's decision and therefore support the woman's right to choice" resonates very strongly with most left-wing Christians. Leftist Christians tend not to be as well organized as right wing evangelical groups. It's unfortunate.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:34
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Rygar201 posted:Christ Alive, why did 49/50 states adopt At Will Employment?!  It's good for the employee too, because you can quit whenever you want! *ignores that slavery is no longer legal*
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Oct 5, 2016 21:35
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punk rebel ecks posted:How far off are we from a future where people vote via internet? Don't they do something like that in Estonia or somewhere? This is a massive can of worms that you're not ready to open. Here's a breakdown: https://youtu.be/JY_pHvhE4os
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Oct 5, 2016 21:35
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Rygar201 posted:Christ Alive, why did 49/50 states adopt At Will Employment?! Because Montana is heartless and cares not for the poor businesses that are constantly being abused by their workers.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:35
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GalacticAcid posted:Sorry of I missed this earlier, but a very very good take from neocon #NeverTrump superstar Max Boot. Just this morning I was thinking that one of the most disturbing parts of this election cycle was how often I was agreeing with Max Boot, I'm glad that I can now return to a semblance of normalcy, even if only for a little while.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:36
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overdesigned posted:Just this morning I was thinking that one of the most disturbing parts of this election cycle was how often I was agreeing with Max Boot, I'm glad that I can now return to a semblance of normalcy, even if only for a little while. Purge those thoughts. He's disgusting.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:38
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Pastrymancy posted:Leftist Christians tend not to be as well organized as right wing evangelical groups. It's unfortunate. Yeah they are. Who do you think is a major force in organizing African-American turnout?
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Oct 5, 2016 21:38
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Pastrymancy posted:Leftist Christians tend not to be as well organized as right wing evangelical groups. It's unfortunate. And we also tend not to make a big deal out of our beliefs politically because they line up quite nicely behind traditionally liberal social values. The Democrats don't have the same issues splitting the economic and social wings of the party that the GOP is struggling with.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:40
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Tender Bender posted:The reaction to Pence "winning" the debate tells me that if Trump was able to just speak in a calm voice he would win this election. Uh, no?
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Oct 5, 2016 21:40
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At will employment is fine. You just know that without it companies would start But you need unions that can use the threat of unified exercising of the employee side of the at-will system to negotiate better terms for members as well as strong social safety nets to carry people over to the next job if they do get fired. Which is why right-to-work laws and making unemployment benefits contingent on being fired "without cause" are both goddamn atrocities.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:41
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Tender Bender posted:The reaction to Pence "winning" the debate tells me that if Trump was able to just speak in a calm voice he would win this election. a calm Trump wouldn't have won the primary
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Oct 5, 2016 21:42
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I mean, I'll concede that there are a ton of people out there who are looking for some way, any way, they can justify voting for Trump and still sleep at night, but I don't think there are enough of them to sway the election.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:42
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Andrast posted:Is there no early voting system in the US? Voting in US is run by individual States, often delegating some of the operational esponsibility to their subunits like Counties or municipalities. Some states have early voting, some don't.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:44
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Skipped four days and three thousand posts. What'd I miss?
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Oct 5, 2016 21:44
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The Rokstar posted:I mean, I'll concede that there are a ton of people out there who are looking for some way, any way, they can justify voting for Trump and still sleep at night, but I don't think there are enough of them to sway the election. I don't know, I think there are a significant number. The winner of this election is going to determine the makeup of the Supreme Court for a least a good portion of the future. Anyone with extremely strong opinions on certain subjects (gun control, abortion, medical care, marriage, gender rights, ect) know that this is a pretty significant election and "hold your nose and vote for Trump so a good supreme court justice gets in" is a really valid strategy even for someone who loathes Trump if they can convince themselves the damage he'll cause is less than the damage Clinton's supreme court justice would cause. But the number who are willing to believe Trump is less dangerous has to be fluctuating pretty hard.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:44
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GalacticAcid posted:Purge those thoughts. He's disgusting. Max Boot is a tool. The linked article starts by saying that pacifists made WWII inevitable, and then implicitly compares them to athlete protesters. If black people protest against being used for target practice by the police, then Hitler. quote:Back in 1933, the Oxford Union provoked a furor when its member approved a resolution stating that “this House will in no circumstances fight for its King and country.” This later came to be cited as a prize specimen of the kind of pacifist thinking that prevented the Western democracies from opposing the rise of Nazism–and that made World War II, the most destructive war in history, inevitable.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:49
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TheBigAristotle posted:I'm SO weak and feckless right now Too weak to feck. Pastrymancy posted:https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/783699028534067200 Christ. My parents watch this stupid Watters' World bullshit. I knew he was bad but I didn't think it would reach Andy Rooney's character in Breakfast at Tiffany's levels. KomradeX posted:So if anyone is familiar with Adam Ruins Everything, over in Manhattan there's a billboard where he says "Building a Wall will not stop illegal immigration." So this Trump supporter I know saw it posted a picture of it and said this is a prime example of a stupid liberals straw man argument because no one said it would. And I'm stunned, I don't know why, at the amount of ignorance "It's just a shovel-ready job project. It won't keep Mexicans out like building a new bridge would keep the old one from collapsing, but the bottom line is TRUMP!" *click* boner confessor posted:false alarm They must've calmed Trump down by explaining that since he picked Pence and that Pence did a good job, it means Trump did a good job because he let him be his running mate. lozzle posted:This is old but I just stumbled upon it so bear with me: who want's to play a game of Who Defended Black Lives Matter With This Metaphor? I would say that this election has driven him insane but that would imply that he was sane in the first place. Maybe it just drove him sane?
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Oct 5, 2016 21:51
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OMG sriracha pudding! posted:Max Boot is a tool. The linked article starts by saying that pacifists made WWII inevitable, and then implicitly compares them to athlete protesters. If black people protest against being used for target practice by the police, then Hitler. It's one thing to just say they're unpatriotic or 'hate America' because they're kneeling. It's another to infer they're helping or encouraging 'the enemy'. That guy is a class-A shitstain.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:51
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Andrast posted:Is there no early voting system in the US? Arizona's early ballot starts next week, and you can register for Permanent Early Voting status, which I have 
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Oct 5, 2016 21:52
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Doctor Butts posted:It's one thing to just say they're unpatriotic or 'hate America' because they're kneeling. It's another to infer they're helping or encouraging 'the enemy'. That guy is a class-A shitstain. His "logic" is so easily turned against him, too. Perhaps the "pacifists" are the athletes who do stand for the anthem, and "the enemy" is racist pieces of poo poo like Max Boot.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:54
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GalacticAcid posted:Purge those thoughts. He's disgusting. I bought The Savage Wars of Peace because it was on a reading list and I feel bad about it now that I know who he is. I never did get around to reading it. Maybe for the best.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:54
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Oct 5, 2016 21:55
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punk rebel ecks posted:How far off are we from a future where people vote via internet? Don't they do something like that in Estonia or somewhere? Indefinitely, since that's the amount of time it'll take to invent a perfect, 100% reliable, verifiable, and secure Internet voting system. Estonia issues IDs with public keys to every citizen to make things more secure, and even then two years ago a bunch of cybersecurity experts got together and basically screamed "STOP ONLINE VOTING ESTONIA WE CAN BREAK IN SO EASY" and Estonia said "No sorry our branding is as an e-country now computers for everything". Mail-in voting works just drat fine, if states would actually do that and stop actively trying to stop people voting.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:56
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Is feckless a word that actually exists in the real world and not just in the Beltway If someone drops it non-ironically its my red flag that he is a Very Serious Person whose words mean diddly dick
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Oct 5, 2016 21:56
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Cythereal posted:Conservative American Christianity has problems. Left-wing Christianity in America generally adores Hillary (a quietly devout Methodist) and Kaine. Kaine's stance of "I personally do not approve of abortion due to religious conviction but don't think it should be the government's decision and therefore support the woman's right to choice" resonates very strongly with most left-wing Christians. I know, I'm a left- wing American Christian, but the right-wingers scare me and make me worry about their mental state and reading comprehension.
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GalacticAcid posted:Sorry of I missed this earlier, but a very very good take from neocon #NeverTrump superstar Max Boot. can we get a word filter that replaces "thugs" with the n-word?
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Oct 5, 2016 21:58
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Shifty Pony posted:At will employment is fine. You just know that without it companies would start No, there are plenty of European countries that make it very hard to fire, and the result is not that you have to give notice 10 months in advance or be sued. You can quit just fine. You are supposed to work a short notice period, but companies rarely enforce it. There *is* a negative result in that companies are cautious in hiring so if they aren't sure about you they are likely to say "no" rather than giving you a chance and seeing how you work out.
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Oct 5, 2016 21:58
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oh they speak Fuckin English, well that explains all the dialect differences
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Oct 5, 2016 21:59
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Lote posted:Scott Walker has the super power of not being able to take a single good picture. Scott Walker has resting mansplain face
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Oct 5, 2016 22:00
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Glenn Beck is woke now it's weird
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Oct 5, 2016 22:01
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Pastrymancy posted:https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/783699028534067200 Is there a reason the punchline to every single joke is a clip from a 40 year old comedy?
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Oct 5, 2016 22:03
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overdesigned posted:I bought The Savage Wars of Peace because it was on a reading list and I feel bad about it now that I know who he is. I never did get around to reading it. Maybe for the best. I read it, and I thought it was ok - it was worth it as a compendium of the bush wars/police actions that the US involved itself it so long as you look past all of his critical analysis on each event. I still feel bad that I wound up giving him money by buying it, though.
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Oct 5, 2016 22:04
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Is there a reason the punchline to every single joke is a clip from a 40 year old comedy? Old white people.
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Oct 5, 2016 22:04
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Is there a reason the punchline to every single joke is a clip from a 40 year old comedy? And they were all really cringe worthy and unfunny.
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Oct 5, 2016 22:07
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Max Boot sounds like the alias for a fascist superhero.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Is there a reason the punchline to every single joke is a clip from a 40 year old comedy? My favorite has to be the woman at 1:25 who's open disdain is attempted to be portrayed as confusion.
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