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cult member at airport posted:Did anyone watch the California Senate debate yesterday? Harris ran circles around Sanchez... And this happened. I hate that dab poo poo so loving much and I don't even know what it's supposed to mean. God drat I'm an old fart.
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mcmagic posted:The things you are "calling me on" bare no resemblance to ANYTHING i said and are pretty much only in your mind. mcmagic posted:Why does it matter that white people are driving her unpopularity? Literally you own actual quote. You swapped your argument from "everyone dislikes Clinton, her unfavorables are so high" to "White people dislike Clinton and they're the most important demographic" in a heartbeat.
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Doctor Butts posted:I hate that dab poo poo so loving much and I don't even know what it's supposed to mean. God drat I'm an old fart. the video is so much more cringe-inducing https://twitter.com/AdrianNBCLA/status/783887665951236096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Oct 6, 2016 16:48
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dozens-of-former-gop-lawmakers-announce-opposition-to-trump/ar-BBx4RHS?li=BBnb7Kz It's nice to be getting these kinds of stories again. I know it doesn't matter too much but it's always lovely to watch. You don't see ex-Democratic politicians coming out against Hillary much, do you? Also, I'd note that Hillary being very popular with non-whites is actually super good for the party that relies heavily on a diverse coalition that hinges on non-white voters.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:49
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I wish Cruz had done this at his concession, and still managed to hit his wife in the face.
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Doctor Butts posted:I hate that dab poo poo so loving much and I don't even know what it's supposed to mean. God drat I'm an old fart.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:49
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ImpAtom posted:Literally you own actual quote. You swapped your argument from "everyone dislikes Clinton, her unfavorables are so high" to "White people dislike Clinton and they're the most important demographic" in a heartbeat. You said that I said that ONLY White people matter. I said nothing of the sort but the idea that white people find her that unfavorable is something that is completely meaningless, is also moronic.
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Doctor Butts posted:I hate that dab poo poo so loving much and I don't even know what it's supposed to mean. God drat I'm an old fart. Don't worry about it. Just know that old and/or White people loving ruin everything. gently caress Cam Newton for making it a thing in popular(white) culture. Also for being an All Lives matter fuckboy.
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Doctor Butts posted:I hate that dab poo poo so loving much and I don't even know what it's supposed to mean. God drat I'm an old fart. I'm a bit sketchy on the details, but doesn't it have something to do with a Whip Nay Nay? Keep an eye on Matthew, the Florida coast is about to get skullfucked. Might wipe out the space center among other things.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:51
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Sorry I have to quote this again. 
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Cruz reminds me of that bug alien from the first Men in Black that wore human skin. 
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mcmagic posted:You said that I said that ONLY White people matter. I said nothing of the sort but the idea that white people find her that unfavorable is something that is completely meaningless is also moronic. You've previously argued hard that Clinton's unfavorables means she shouldn't have been chosen and kept pointing at them as proof that she was One Of The Most Unpopular Candidates Ever. So if you still believe that then what you're saying is "white people's favorability is the one that matters."
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Oct 6, 2016 16:53
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ImpAtom posted:Literally you own actual quote. You swapped your argument from "everyone dislikes Clinton, her unfavorables are so high" to "White people dislike Clinton and they're the most important demographic" in a heartbeat. They are the most important demographic politically, they're overwhelmingly the most populous and diverse in the United States. They're a solid majority of people, so while it's interesting and worth talking about, disapproval of Clinton driven by white people is still broad disapproval. It's not a "sham", it's a statistical reality.
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lozzle posted:If this were true, wouldn't you expect it to be reflected in literally any other demographic? Eh, I think that might reflect media consumption patterns by racial group in the 90's, as opposed to flat-out racism. There's a racial component to it, but flat-out attributing Clinton's unpopularity ratings to "racism" is a huge oversimplification.
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Periodiko posted:They are the most important demographic politically, they're overwhelmingly the most populous and diverse in the United States. They're a solid majority of people, so while it's interesting and worth talking about, disapproval of Clinton driven by white people is still broad disapproval. It's not a "sham", it's a statistical reality. That is absolutely true but it isn't what mcmagic argued before. I'm assuming his previous arguments still hold weight and he's not pulling a Trump and pretending he never said things.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:54
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Is there a breakdown of Clinton's favorables by gender as well? It'd be even funnier and even less surprising if it was just white men that hated her.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:54
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Schadenfreude is one hell of a drug.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:55
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ImpAtom posted:You've previously argued hard that Clinton's unfavorables means she shouldn't have been chosen and kept pointing at them as proof that she was One Of The Most Unpopular Candidates Ever. So if you still believe that then what you're saying is "white people's favorability is the one that matters." It's not the only one that matters but it does matter a lot. You're talking about a huge portion of the electorate and those unfavorables are going to be a major reason why this is going to be a 2012 level win for her rather than a giant wave election which is what should be happening when she's running against Trump.
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Endorph posted:it doesn't mean anything. it's a dance move. why do you hate a dance move?? ? All dance moves created after the Running Man and Roger Rabbit are invalid.
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Periodiko posted:They are the most important demographic politically, they're overwhelmingly the most populous and diverse in the United States. They're a solid majority of people, so while it's interesting and worth talking about, disapproval of Clinton driven by white people is still broad disapproval. It's not a "sham", it's a statistical reality. You didn't read the article then. The other main thrust of it was that Hillary was solidly popular until she began running for president, which the Republicans tried to nip in the bud in 2013 with the Benghazi "scandal", while Trump has always been consistently unpopular. Plus, it's not representative of her being "totally unpopular with everyone" if she's only unpopular with white people, which SHOULD be common sense but apparently isn't.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:56
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"poo poo, how do we spin a story about her protecting baby animals as a negative"
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Lightning Knight posted:gentrification If you want to put a face on what is admittedly a fairly diffuse problem, the documentary BOOM: The Sound of Eviction, about the politics of housing and development in dotcom era San Francisco, is considered to be a pretty good study. It's on youtube starting here.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:57
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I miss when dabbing was all about smoking really concentrated weed until reality dissolved 
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Oct 6, 2016 16:58
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There's still a chance to make history and become our first twerking Senator.
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Oct 6, 2016 16:58
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BaDandy posted:You didn't read the article then. The other main thrust of it was that Hillary was solidly popular until she began running for president, which the Republicans tried to nip in the bud in 2013 with the Benghazi "scandal", while Trump has always been consistently unpopular. In America if you're unpopular with white people you're unpopular with most of the electorate. That's just reality.
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Pakled posted:"poo poo, how do we spin a story about her protecting baby animals as a negative" That's intended to be a negative?
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HookedOnChthonics posted:If you want to put a face on what is admittedly a fairly diffuse problem, the documentary BOOM: The Sound of Eviction, about the politics of housing and development in dotcom era San Francisco, is considered to be a pretty good study. It's on youtube starting here. Interesting. I won't be able to watch this now but if I remember later I will. Thanks! mcmagic posted:In America if you're unpopular with white people you're unpopular with most of the electorate. That's just reality. That reflects a problem with the electorate, not the candidate.
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Mind_Taker posted:Is there a breakdown of Clinton's favorables by gender as well? It'd be even funnier and even less surprising if it was just white men that hated her. I wish it were true, but I guarantee you that it's not the case. It's anecdotal, but the most ardent Hillary-haters I've ever met have been women, because...well, you can guess.
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Lightning Knight posted:That reflects a problem with the electorate, not the candidate. That isn't how winning elections works.
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This whole argument is moot because, as bad as Hillary's unfavorables are, Trump's are much worse.
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mcmagic posted:In America if you're unpopular with white people you're unpopular with most of the electorate. That's just reality. So then why isn't Trump winning? He's most favorable with whites.
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Pakled posted:"poo poo, how do we spin a story about her protecting baby animals as a negative" Crooked Hillary wants government bureaucrats to control your access to cute bunnies.
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mcmagic posted:That isn't how winning elections works. She is winning the election. That she is unable to win a landslide represents the fundamental truth of the electorate: 39-44 percent of America would happily embrace fascism because they're loving fascists.
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mcmagic posted:It's not the only one that matters but it does matter a lot. You're talking about a huge portion of the electorate and those unfavorables are going to be a major reason why this is going to be a 2012 level win for her rather than a giant wave election which is what should be happening when she's running against Trump. Except white people are historically not prone to voting Democrat. They went 72 to 39 for Romney. Even if Sanders was the nominee there's no reason to assume white men would suddenly flock to him in droves or that he wouldn't suffer low favorabilities with them. Maybe not AS low as Clinton but the argument that any Democrat could suddenly win all the white votes against Trump (whose strongest base are white men) is silly. mcmagic posted:In America if you're unpopular with white people you're unpopular with most of the electorate. That's just reality. So why is Obama President when he clearly lost White voters by a huge degree?
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mcmagic posted:In America if you're unpopular with white people you're unpopular with most of the electorate. That's just reality. In America if you're a Democratic candidate unpopular with everyone but white people you're a complete waste of everyone's time.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:02
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If white people weren't incredibly insecure and populous then Trump wouldn't be the nominee, we already know this.
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ImpAtom posted:Except white people are historically not prone to voting Democrat. They went 72 to 39 for Romney. Even if Sanders was the nominee there's no reason to assume white men would suddenly flock to him in droves or that he wouldn't suffer low favorabilities with them. Maybe not AS low as Clinton but the argument that any Democrat could suddenly win all the white votes against Trump (whose strongest base are white men) is silly. This is true. Having lower unfavorables than Clinton would not, in and of itself, guarantee a higher turnout for her at the polls.
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Dexo posted:I would be an rear end in a top hat. I would go for the minimalist approach: "Hi, this is Ted Cruz..." *hangs up*
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