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Notification light was one of the reasons why I felt it wouldn't be too much of a compromise giving up Motorola's active display. Stock functionality without a notification light is not too useful.
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I might be okay with not having a notification light if ambient display wasn't hot garbage. Notification lights forever they're the best.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:12
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If it is anything like the 6p then it also probably shows notifications and time on the screen when you pick it up from your deck or pocket. The notifications are in greyscale and don't seem to impact the battery much.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:13
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Asus Zenfone 3 pricing for the US: Laser, $199, Snapdragon 430, 32GB storage, 2GB of RAM, 5.5in 1080p LCD. Deluxe 5.5, $399, Snapdragon 625, 64GB storage, 4GB of RAM, 5.5in 1080p LCD. Deluxe 5.7, $499, Snapdragon 820, 64GB storage, 6GB of RAM, 5.7in 1080p AMOLED. Deluxe 5.7 Special Edition, $799!,Snapdragon 821, 256GB storage, 6GB of RAM, 5.7in 1080p AMOLED. The Deluxe models all seem to be about 100 dollars too expensive given their 1080p displays, in my opinion.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:20
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That's not good enough for me. I need to see if there's any active notifications from across the room without interacting with the device. Until Google implements periodic 'breathing' of the notifications on screen, an LED will be necessary for me.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:21
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Zero VGS posted:If it is anything like the 6p then it also probably shows notifications and time on the screen when you pick it up from your deck or pocket. The notifications are in greyscale and don't seem to impact the battery much. Ambient display or whatever whichever vendor decides to call it, has a noticeable impact on battery life. I forget which phone I read this about, but one model had a 5-10% impact. RZA Encryption posted:What year is it 2016  bull3964 posted:That's not good enough for me. I need to see if there's any active notifications from across the room without interacting with the device. Until Google implements periodic 'breathing' of the notifications on screen, an LED will be necessary for me. This is a big advantage to a light, I can see from across the room what kind of notification I have, thanks to lightflow.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:25
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bull3964 posted:That's not good enough for me. I need to see if there's any active notifications from across the room without interacting with the device. Until Google implements periodic 'breathing' of the notifications on screen, an LED will be necessary for me. Pssh, maybe that will suffice if you don't have any real work to do; my phone communicates over Bluetooth to stop my pacemaker for a second when I need it to get my attention.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:26
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Zero VGS posted:If it is anything like the 6p then it also probably shows notifications and time on the screen when you pick it up from your deck or pocket. The notifications are in greyscale and don't seem to impact the battery much. That requires revving up the GPU to render the image and the power to turn on thousands of OLEDs. It's certainly less power than an LCD trying to do that, but significantly more than a simple on/off LED.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:33
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Nitrousoxide posted:That requires revving up the GPU to render the image and the power to turn on thousands of OLEDs. It's certainly less power than an LCD trying to do that, but significantly more than a simple on/off LED. I'm not arguing that, just saying it's there and the 6p makes it through the day. The 6p actually had an LED notification light as well so I'm not sure why all the hullabaloo about the Pixel having it too.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:36
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CLAM DOWN posted:Notification lights are awesome imo, all phones should have them.  I miss the notification trackball on my Nexus One a lot. I don't care what anyone else says, it was great.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:38
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Jerk McJerkface posted:My credit score is 815, and when I did the check it said that it couldn't give me results and would follow up in 5-7 days. Strange. You probably tripped one of the fraud prevention filters.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:39
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Zero VGS posted:I'm not arguing that, just saying it's there and the 6p makes it through the day. The 6P notification LED was only accessible by root, afaik. It was not usable even by lightflow on mine, without root.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:42
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CLAM DOWN posted:The 6P notification LED was only accessible by root, afaik I think that was only the N6. I know the 5x has a perfectly normal notification LED that you can turn on and off in the settings. It's hidden in the speaker grill.
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Oct 6, 2016 17:44
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bull3964 posted:I think that was only the N6. Correct, my bad.
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bull3964 posted:I think that was only the N6. And it's as bright as the sun at 2am when it blinks on my bedside and wakes up me, my wife, my kids down the hall, and my upstairs neighbors.
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Funny enough, I think that situation with the N6 is a symptom of the old relationship for Nexus devices. Motorola's devices of the time (Moto X) had an LED to indicate low battery but weren't hooked up at the software level for notification since they all had Moto's Active Display. Since the N6 was a Moto X variant, that persisted and there was no notification LED. The fact that there is an RGB notification LED on the Pixel means that Google feels it is something phones should have since they are the ones that dictated the BOM.
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Oct 6, 2016 18:03
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I really love the active display stuff on my Moto but I still want a display LED so I can see at a glance from a distance it I've got notifications.
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Oct 6, 2016 18:32
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Does anyone elses phone get ridiculously janky after 3-6 months of use? My snapchat basically doesn't work, it is so slow and buggy now it cannot take video and lags by seconds on photos. Even scrolling websites can be unpredictable, sometimes its fine, sometimes the delay in scroll is very noticeable. I have a Nexus 6P. I know if I did a factory reset everything would be snappy but I've noticed this problem across phones. After ~6 months things just slow down.
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Oct 6, 2016 18:55
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Jerk McJerkface posted:And it's as bright as the sun at 2am when it blinks on my bedside and wakes up me, my wife, my kids down the hall, and my upstairs neighbors. They linked the LED up to DND as of Nougat, so you can have it turn off at night along with sounds now.
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5436 posted:Does anyone elses phone get ridiculously janky after 3-6 months of use? My snapchat basically doesn't work, it is so slow and buggy now it cannot take video and lags by seconds on photos. Even scrolling websites can be unpredictable, sometimes its fine, sometimes the delay in scroll is very noticeable. I have a Nexus 6P. I know if I did a factory reset everything would be snappy but I've noticed this problem across phones. After ~6 months things just slow down. Welcome to Android. I recommend a factory reset and fresh start.
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RZA Encryption posted:I just noticed the pixel product page mentions an RGB notification LED. I haven't had a phone with one of those in a loooooong time. I hope you can turn it off. Those things make phones look so dated. What is this, a 2008 blackberry?
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Oct 6, 2016 18:59
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5436 posted:Does anyone elses phone get ridiculously janky after 3-6 months of use? My snapchat basically doesn't work, it is so slow and buggy now it cannot take video and lags by seconds on photos. Even scrolling websites can be unpredictable, sometimes its fine, sometimes the delay in scroll is very noticeable. I have a Nexus 6P. I know if I did a factory reset everything would be snappy but I've noticed this problem across phones. After ~6 months things just slow down. This isn't really an answer, but Snapchat is basically the worst android app ever created and will lag the gently caress out of even the best phones because the developers have never heard of threading.
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5436 posted:Does anyone elses phone get ridiculously janky after 3-6 months of use? My snapchat basically doesn't work, it is so slow and buggy now it cannot take video and lags by seconds on photos. Even scrolling websites can be unpredictable, sometimes its fine, sometimes the delay in scroll is very noticeable. I have a Nexus 6P. I know if I did a factory reset everything would be snappy but I've noticed this problem across phones. After ~6 months things just slow down. I don't have any social media apps and my 5X works great. I don't know if Snapchat is the same way, but a lot of people report performance improvements when Facebook is uninstalled.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Welcome to Android. I recommend a factory reset and fresh start. Especially after a letter upgrade. I started on KitKat and factory reset after Marshmallow. The difference was night and day.
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Taffer posted:This isn't really an answer, but Snapchat is basically the worst android app ever created and will lag the gently caress out of even the best phones because the developers have never heard of threading. I understand that but the performance lags across the phone. From browsing to pulling up the keyboard. Snapchat is the worst offender, its unusable. azurite posted:I don't have any social media apps and my 5X works great. I don't know if Snapchat is the same way, but a lot of people report performance improvements when Facebook is uninstalled. I block facebook and those apps from location settings but it also sorta defeats the purpose of having the phone unless I can use the apps I want. CLAM DOWN posted:Welcome to Android. I recommend a factory reset and fresh start. Is there an explanation for this? Its very frustrating.
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Mental Hospitality posted:Asus Zenfone 3 pricing for the US: Are these gonna be awful phones or something? ASUS seems to have a wide variety of specs/storage available (SD enabled too) and even a 6.8 inch jorts ripping behemoth Ultra.
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Oct 6, 2016 19:42
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Active Display > LED > Ambient Display
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Just turned on the notification light on my 5X. Thanks thread 
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5436 posted:I understand that but the performance lags across the phone. From browsing to pulling up the keyboard. Snapchat is the worst offender, its unusable. I can tell you that, from my experience with the 6P, that's not typical. Maybe there is some offending app causing the problem, but it could be a pain in the rear end to figure out. I'd do a factory reset if only because that's the simplest way to get rid of whatever it may be that's causing it. If you have time, you can try to troubleshoot, see if it's a problematic app or something.
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Taffer posted:This isn't really an answer, but Snapchat is basically the worst android app ever created and will lag the gently caress out of even the best phones because the developers have never heard of threading. Exactly why I straight up uninstalled it and just use stories on Instagram instead.
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sleepwalkers posted:I can tell you that, from my experience with the 6P, that's not typical. Maybe there is some offending app causing the problem, but it could be a pain in the rear end to figure out. I'd do a factory reset if only because that's the simplest way to get rid of whatever it may be that's causing it. If you have time, you can try to troubleshoot, see if it's a problematic app or something. Yea the only thing is I use very few apps but my phone broke anyways and a replacement is coming today so I will have a fresh phone.
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5436 posted:I understand that but the performance lags across the phone. From browsing to pulling up the keyboard. Snapchat is the worst offender, its unusable. The Snapchat android app is just bad no matter what phone you use it on  air- posted:Exactly why I straight up uninstalled it and just use stories on Instagram instead. Sure, they're better, but like any social media or sharing platform, you gotta use what all your friends use (which for me is still Snapchat).
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Syrinxx posted:Counterpoint: LED notifications own and you are wrong I'm seriously surprised by the amount of LED defenders in here. I thought they went the way of hardware keyboards. Like, at least the people that want removable batteries and expandable storage have a plausible but unfortunate excuse for it (anime). People are talking about seeing it from across the room. Why would you want a blinking light nagging at you until you pay attention to it?
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RZA Encryption posted:I'm seriously surprised by the amount of LED defenders in here. I thought they went the way of hardware keyboards. Like, at least the people that want removable batteries and expandable storage have a plausible but unfortunate excuse for it (anime). People are talking about seeing it from across the room. Why would you want a blinking light nagging at you until you pay attention to it? Because I want to know if I got a notification without babysitting my phone while I'm trying to do other stuff.
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Oct 6, 2016 20:36
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RZA Encryption posted:People are talking about seeing it from across the room. Why would you want a blinking light nagging at you until you pay attention to it? How else am I supposed to know that something needs attention? When I get home, I put my phone down on a bookshelf in the living room on a charger. I don't want to have to go over to it and periodically check the thing to ensure I didn't miss a notification. That doesn't seem like a hard thing to grasp.
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Keyser S0ze posted:Are these gonna be awful phones or something? ASUS seems to have a wide variety of specs/storage available (SD enabled too) and even a 6.8 inch jorts ripping behemoth Ultra. They're made by Asus, so massive piles of poo poo that you won't be able to get fixed if they break.
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RZA Encryption posted:I'm seriously surprised by the amount of LED defenders in here. I thought they went the way of hardware keyboards. Like, at least the people that want removable batteries and expandable storage have a plausible but unfortunate excuse for it (anime). People are talking about seeing it from across the room. Why would you want a blinking light nagging at you until you pay attention to it? People have presented their use cases to you for an LED notification light, I'm not sure why this is so hard.
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bull3964 posted:How else am I supposed to know that something needs attention? Get an AndroidWear watch? v  v
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My girlfriend who is an iOS user is always seeing my phone's notification light and saying "Goddamn I wish I had a notification light." I used to love it more than life itself but now that I have a Wear device I find it's only useful at home when I take off my watch. The worst method is the kind where the screen comes on when you touch the phone. Piss trash for idiots, that is. Why yes, phone, let me know I have something to view only when I'm literally picking up the phone, you know, that time when I would've seen whatever it is on my own! It's an anti-notification in that it only alerts you at the specific moment that it's useless to do so. Absolute garbage.
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