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greatn posted:Zak Snyder is dumb he thought Batman literally flew in a batnado - nerds everywhere He should
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Batman using a Batnado would have unironically been more entertaining than the actual Doomsday fight.
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I prefer BvS almost entirely because of how much I love Eisenberg's Luthor. CelticPredator posted:Sucker Punch's was cool. I wish the whole movie was like that. No dialog, just visuals. Most of the film actually works fine with just its music, but it would be a shame to lose Oscar Isaac singing.
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Detective Dog Dick posted:My favorite thing about the Civil War scene is how prominent the lamp is. Check the lighting towards the end. It's right next to him but the illumination is on the other side. 
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His name is Vision, calling him The Lamp is kind of rude imho tbf.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Actually, Nightbreed is definitely a better movie than Magnolia
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I guess I'll crosspost on over here from the "Who Greenlighted" thread. Have some Valerian:  Luc Besson posted:"Hello everyone! My name is Mélo. Forget Valerian, I'm the real star of the movie!!!"  Luc Besson posted:Mélo? The star of Valérian?!  Luc Besson posted:Who are all these guys pretending they are "the star of Valerian"?!?  Luc Besson posted:Yeah!! I agree with my dad!!  Luc Besson posted:Hey guys?! Calm down!  Luc Besson posted:Excuse me??? 
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Actually, Nightbreed is definitely a better movie than Magnolia Not much of an accomplishment.
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I just picked a Very Serious Movie that wasn't interesting enough for me to sit through. Whew, that's a weight off. I rewatched Nightbreed last night; it rules.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Not much of an accomplishment. True, but doesn't change the fact that Nightbreed is very good.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:BvS' opening scene was my least favorite part. That leering slo-mo retelling of the Waynes' murder going right into an even more 9/11 porny version of the Man of Steel finale got the film off on a terrible note.
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Drifter posted:It's no more 9/11 porn than a Godzilla movie. It really is, although if you're too young to remember 9/11 I understand you missing it. The imagery of calling someone on your cell phone that's trapped in a collapsing downtown office building as they try to decide whether to chance the stairs or wait for help opens a lot of raw wounds even 15 years on.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:It really is, although if you're too young to remember 9/11 I understand you missing it. that's why that scene was good
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Brother Entropy posted:that's why that scene was good I mean if you're into that sort of thing I guess, felt a bit tacky to me. I know people from New York who were beyond disgusted with it.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I mean if you're into that sort of thing I guess, felt a bit tacky to me. I know people from New York who were beyond disgusted with it. Good.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I mean if you're into that sort of thing I guess, felt a bit tacky to me it's not like it's evoking it for no reason or just cheap shock value, the plot of the movie is very much about the kinds of things fear and the illusion of powerlessness can drive men to do and 9/11 seems like a fair thing to evoke given how american foreign policy has gone since that day
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Which part? Anyway I enjoyed X-Men Days of Future Past which opens with Neon Dachau so it's possible I'm being somewhat hypocritical, that movie had less of an overwhelming sense of self importance though which softened it a bit.
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if self-importance is what it takes for these studios to make movies that don't go in one ear and out the other then bring it on imo
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MoS was the first time I ever felt digested with someone aping 9/11 footage. My jaw dropped at how insanely stupid it all was.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Which part? Neon Dachau is a great band name for like a death metal band or jazz band.
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CelticPredator posted:MoS was the first time I ever felt digested with someone aping 9/11 footage. My jaw dropped at how insanely stupid it all was. I felt a little bit that way about Cloverfield too which I feel much more alone in.
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I tried to think and now I am confused. If mankind Meets Superman is 9/11 and Batman is America, is Batman's reaction and subsequent fight with Superman analogous to the Iraq War? Is... is Superman Saddam Hussein?
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Grendels Dad posted:I tried to think and now I am confused. If mankind Meets Superman is 9/11 and Batman is America, is Batman's reaction and subsequent fight with Superman analogous to the Iraq War? Is... is Superman Saddam Hussein? Yes.
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Grendels Dad posted:I tried to think and now I am confused. If mankind Meets Superman is 9/11 and Batman is America, is Batman's reaction and subsequent fight with Superman analogous to the Iraq War? Is... is Superman Saddam Hussein? superman is an immigrant
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Brother Entropy posted:superman is an immigrant specifically, Mohamed Atta
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I felt a little bit that way about Cloverfield too which I feel much more alone in. Hiroshima had been nuked nine years before Godzilla.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Hiroshima had been nuked nine years before Godzilla. If Cloverfield had been 1/10 as good as Godzilla maybe I'd have been more forgiving.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Hiroshima had been nuked nine years before Godzilla. Not to mention Godzilla also drew inspiration from the Lucky Dragon fallout incident from only eight months before the movie came out.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I felt a little bit that way about Cloverfield too which I feel much more alone in. Cloverfield worked more for me because it's easier for me to swallow Cloverfield as a monster guised as a national disaster, vs a hero pummeling a bad guy through buildings.
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CelticPredator posted:a hero pummeling a bad guy through buildings. The bad guy pummeled the hero through buildings.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Hiroshima had been nuked nine years before Godzilla. And the original Godzilla is NOT subtle about the allegory. A passage from a Telegraph article sums it up pretty well: quote:It was a sober allegory of a film with ambitions as large as its thrice-normal budget, designed to shock and horrify an adult audience.
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CelticPredator posted:Cloverfield worked more for me because it's easier for me to swallow Cloverfield as a monster guised as a national disaster, vs a hero pummeling a bad guy through buildings. Superman doesn't pummel Zod through any buildings (although he does grapple with him through a train station roof and knock him through some girders). He does appear to knock Faora through an empty building one time in Smallville.
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CelticPredator posted:Cloverfield worked more for me because it's easier for me to swallow Cloverfield as a monster guised as a national disaster, vs a hero pummeling a bad guy through buildings. that's why it works imo, the destruction is on the scale of 60 foot monsters because that's how far beyond humanity kryptons are they're terrifying and incomprehensibly powerful and that makes it easy for the next movie to be about batman dehumanizing superman with some help from 24-hour news channels
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It also works because violence isn't volleyball.
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The things about Godzilla is it was willing to really grapple with all that stuff in a serious way, whereas Cloverfield felt like 9/11: The Ride.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Superman doesn't pummel Zod through any buildings (although he does grapple with him through a train station roof and knock him through some girders). He hits Zod through a grain silo and the gas station. He then smashes his face against the side of a build as they're flying past it, but that's about it. But people complaining about that poo poo kind of missed the point of the whole action sequence.
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Honestly my favorite part of that sequence is when Superman cuts loose and punches that big Kryptonian fucker into the trainyard, and that's the last you see of him (so you think!) until a huge locomotive sails into the downtown and guts a Sears. What the heck is Superman supposed to do?
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He's supposed to be in a better movie. Hiyooo.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:The things about Godzilla is it was willing to really grapple with all that stuff in a serious way, whereas Cloverfield felt like 9/11: The Ride. This entirely. Gojira used the imagery for a reason and for a purpose, to tell a narrative that needed to be told. An exploration, not exploitation, of the horrors of atomic war. Cloverfield did it because it's easy imagery to cash in on, though I think the reason why it got away with it was because it showed it in a very detached, depersonalized way. You almost never see the damage first hand, it's always through either a different TV screen, or the aftermath, or the damage is obscured somehow. Now, people know that that is what it looks like when a major building falls, so people expect that kind of imagery. Buildings being destroyed before 9/11 was always way more cool and clean, often just a big explosion or just the building collapsing with minimal dust or debris. Ever since, people clued in better on what it would actually be like and movies followed suit
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