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Kontradaz posted:It would be funny if it wasn't true: see the influx of microtransactions and DLC's the past few years. Not hard to prove. Huh I could have sworn DOOM came out not to long ago and didnt have any real issue and is amazing.
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wjs5 posted:Huh I could have sworn DOOM came out not to long ago and didnt have any real issue and is amazing. You could only run that game at a smooth 30 fps, or a completely disgusting 60 fps max that dipped down to 30 constantly. There's no third option. 
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wjs5 posted:Huh I could have sworn DOOM came out not to long ago and didnt have any real issue and is amazing. Of course it did well, and then you have the disasters of preorders and early access that did not do well. Your point?
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Kontradaz posted:Of course it did well, and then you have the disasters of preorders and early access that did not do well. Your point? That your point probably isnt as full of merit as you seem to think.
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Because doom was good, mafia 3 will be good this isn't rocket science you nerds
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wjs5 posted:That your point probably isnt as full of merit as you seem to think. If his point doesn't apply to absolutely every game ever, his point has no validity? Holy hell.
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Yes that is exactly what I am saying thanks for helping clarify.
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wjs5 posted:Yes that is exactly what I am saying thanks for helping clarify. You're welcome. Would you, too, like an explanation on why 2k is literally Ted Bundy, or are you already familiar with hyperbole and metaphor?
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Xeremides posted:If his point doesn't apply to absolutely every game ever, his point has no validity? Holy hell. Ted Bundy
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It's almost as if there are various factors to explain why games ship in the state they do, such as staff size, budget, time frame and tools available to the developers. But, here's a few examples of games that did 60fps at launch, so surely these specific dev's are just lazy fucks and hate PC players on a personal level.
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actually didn't like doom but that puts me in the minority
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okay but who in this metaphor is the zodiac killer
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Afraid of Audio posted:okay but who in this metaphor is the zodiac killer idk but if this tiresome discussion continues i hope i'm his next victim
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The Father: Take 2 The Son: Rockstar Games The Holy Spirit: Rockstar's Table Tennis.
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Afraid of Audio posted:okay but who in this metaphor is the zodiac killer Could you not keep on bringing up Ted
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eleven extra elephants posted:idk but if this tiresome discussion continues i hope i'm his next victim I don't think Rocksteady wants to develop you. Nuts and Gum posted:It's almost as if there are various factors to explain why games ship in the state they do, such as staff size, budget, time frame and tools available to the developers. But, here's a few examples of games that did 60fps at launch, so surely these specific dev's are just lazy fucks and hate PC players on a personal level. If the majority of games were released with 30 fps locks, complaining wouldn't do anything. It's because the vast majority release with 60 as a minimum that when one doesn't, a shitstorm arises and the dev capitulates, as they have in this case.
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Kontradaz posted:I have never before seen people fight so hard for regression in technology and development. It is true, Idiocracy has arrived. That's a very interesting take on my comment. Not really based on reality, unfortunately, but interesting nonetheless. Xeremides posted:Duke Nukem 3D supported 60 fps, Diablo is an ARPG so, much like strategy games, don't necessarily need 60 fps, and Tomb Raider didn't. You'll notice that in 1996, Tomb Raider was actually pushing hardware, so it's understandable that they didn't aim for what only a supercomputer could achieve at the time. Much like why Bloodborne and Dark Souls 4 are 30 fps titles on the PS4. That isn't the case today for PC. Skip forward a few years, and you start seeing support skyrocket. Because, you know, tech got better. So, you're saying that the default standard for gaming decades ago was not, in fact 60fps? (Please note that I'm not saying, as Kontradz above seems to have assumed, that 30fps is fine and dandy and we should all devolve back it immediately  .)Actually, my systems back at that time were either Amiga or hand-me-down 586 v/Voodoo 1, so I wasn't paying attention to ULTIMATE MAX FPS discussions, but then again, I wasn't seeing a lot of column space or electrons being devoted to the issue either. <shrug> Guess I'll be looking around at the reviews/actual non-sponsored play videos/goon reports/maybe getting some hands-on at an upcoming LAN party, because I could use some 1960s iron to horse around N'awlins streets and assholes to murder. 
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:That's a very interesting take on my comment. Not really based on reality, unfortunately, but interesting nonetheless. You listed 3 games from 3 different genres, and the one where fps matters the most, the first person shooter, supported 60 fps. Hey, Doom 2016, Mafia 3 and Furi when it first released! One supports 165 hz, and the other two only support(ed) 30 fps! The standard on PC gaming clearly isn't 60 fps. When the tech can support 60 fps, the devs generally support 60 fps, even on consoles: http://www.giantbomb.com/60-fps-on-consoles/3015-3223/games/ Or just a straight up list: http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?26920-Games-with-3D-graphics-running-at-60-fps-5th-Generation-Consoles Which is why it doesn't make sense for Mafia 3 to be locked to 30. Xeremides fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Oct 6, 2016 |
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But what about Jeffrey Dahmer?
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:That's a very interesting take on my comment. Not really based on reality, unfortunately, but interesting nonetheless. Oh man we got an old-timer - sorry for misunderstanding you sensei.
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Xeremides posted:You're welcome. Would you, too, like an explanation on why 2k is literally Ted Bundy, or are you already familiar with hyperbole and metaphor? What are hyperbole or metaphor?
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wjs5 posted:What are hyperbole or metaphor? Man, who cares? 2k just patched Bioshock: Remastered! They're just regular murderers now! Awww yeah.
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wjs5 posted:What are hyperbole or metaphor? One is BTK and the other is Ed Gein
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Great Joe posted:GIFs don't go faster than 50 FPS, dingus. I'm sorry your browser sucks.(Chrome master race)
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Kontradaz posted:I'm sorry your browser sucks.(Chrome master race) Now, here's a comparison that works. 60 on the left half, 30 on the right half. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StaSYlxp9v0
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Great Joe posted:The least frame delay supported by Chrome is 0.02 seconds. 50FPS. I'm switching back to Netscape.
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Roobanguy posted:man what the heck happened to this thread... 30FPS happened. 
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People had sunk cost, other people felt ripped off. Thread got bad.
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I got Ted bundy and AL bundy mixed up for a while and let me tell you this thread got VERY confusing for me
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Bought it against my better judgement and hard crashed 3 times before I could even get through the tutorial opening, one so bad I had to restart my comp. Welp this is why Steam has refunds I guess 
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:Bought it against my better judgement and hard crashed 3 times before I could even get through the tutorial opening, one so bad I had to restart my comp. Welp this is why Steam has refunds I guess Hey man, crashes are just part of PC gaming - why do you expect the devs to have a game that runs without crashes on every spec? It's impossible. 2K tried their best 
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Kontradaz posted:Hey man, crashes are just part of PC gaming - why do you expect the devs to have a game that runs without crashes on every spec? It's impossible. 2K tried their best The best part about when devs release dumpster-fire-quality ports is how utterly baffled they are that people don't like their flaming dumpster
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personally, 2k is more like isis, to me
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John Romero posted:arent rockstar and 2k the same company Nah that's Take-Two Interactive. Quite confusing.
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Roobanguy posted:man what the heck happened to this thread... Utnayan posted:Of course, the difference between Rockstar and 2k is like comparing Jesus Christ to Ted Bundy.
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