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Like literally all Hillary has to do is say "unlike my opponent, who allies with Russia" and Trump will be spewing out stuff about how great Putin is, turn be damned.
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WampaLord posted:Uhhh, do you not remember that "Please proceed, Governor" and the moderator fact checking following it happened at the town hall debate? Yeah, but the commission on Presidential debates said they are explicitly not fact checking this year in response to the outrage over that moment. I'm just caging my expectations, but I think Hillary does better in formal specific debate formats and Trump will be judged relative to her performance. I'm skeptical that he can bomb as badly as he did in the first debate, but Trump is constantly defying expectations. So, we'll see! I think this debate is going to be by far the biggest unknown of the three.
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PupsOfWar posted:Obama made the nomination. Why should Clinton feel any sense of obligation over it? The Garland Nomination won't make it to Hillary's term if she wins. They will confirm him in Lame duck.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Yeah, but the commission on Presidential debates said they are explicitly not fact checking this year in response to the outrage over that moment. I'm not trying to make fun of you, rather to reassure, because anxiety sucks: They said the same thing before the first debate and we were all arzying, then Trump got fact checked a couple key times.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Yeah, but the commission on Presidential debates said they are explicitly not fact checking this year in response to the outrage over that moment. And Lester Holt fact checked Trump when he tried to claim that he was always against the Iraq War, so the commission's statements clearly don't matter. You think Anderson Cooper won't do some basic level fact checking?
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Also for all of you Arzys out there Hillary looks like she may break 80% on the polls only forecast. Possibly by the end of the day. Currently she's at 79.3%.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Yeah, but the commission on Presidential debates said they are explicitly not fact checking this year in response to the outrage over that moment.
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Wait are we going back to worrying that Trump can stay calm for 90 minutes when Hillary is outright baiting him?
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theflyingorc posted:and yet Lester Holt fact checked him several times No, you don't understand, the commission on Presidential debates said that they are explicitly not fact checking this year. Do you think that some evidence that Lester Holt fact checked Trump in the first debate is going to sway my opinion on this!?!? BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Wait are we going back to worrying that Trump can stay calm for 90 minutes when Hillary is outright baiting him? No, we're back to thinking that Clinton sucks at 1-on-1's and that Trump is some master debater.
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theflyingorc posted:and yet Lester Holt fact checked him several times I know, but I think they might be more conscious of it and not allow a Candy Crowley style 30-second back and forth of fact checking. Also, the moderators have never interrupted a candidate to fact check when he is talking to the audience, which is where most of the questions will be coming from. The audience members are not allowed to ask followups either. These are things I'm laying out as mitigating factors for why this format might be easier for Trump than a formal debate. Not that I think he will win because of these.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I know, but I think they might be more conscious of it and not allow a Candy Crowley style 30-second back and forth of fact checking. Also, the moderators have never interrupted a candidate to fact check when he is talking to the audience, which is where most of the questions will be coming from. Go outside and tell me what color the sky is.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I know, but I think they might be more conscious of it and not allow a Candy Crowley style 30-second back and forth of fact checking. Also, the moderators have never interrupted a candidate to fact check when he is talking to the audience, which is where most of the questions will be coming from. Do you really believe that Trump won't talk over and try to correct someone who brings up a question with a statistic?
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if anybody is going to be in the pocket for trump, it's definitely the gay dude
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And again, town halls are Hillary's best format. It was her best primary debate, it's the event type she prefers to do on the campaign trail. She is good at listening to, emphasizing with, and speaking to people's problems. Formal debates are her weaker point, because she isn't great at delivering prepared lines.
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Phone posted:Go outside and tell me what color the sky is. It's purple and I'm made of jello. Your move. 
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Endorph posted:also, won't only half the questions be from the town hall? It's half from audience, an undetermined amount submitted online, and some from the moderator.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Wait are we going back to worrying that Trump can stay calm for 90 minutes when Hillary is outright baiting him? I can empathize with worrying about a really important event even if it's very likely to go well. I don't think the guy's trolling, just nervous. I mean, look how nervous we were before the first one. You even mentioned you feared the real possibility of 'vallium trump'. Knowing she stomped him the first time and that he's a dumbass who can't conceive of the idea that a woman could be better than him at anything soothes a lot of the worry, though.
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Ice Phisherman posted:It's purple and I'm made of jello. Your move. C-c-correct. 10 points to Gryffindor.
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Nothing Trump has done for the last two years has shown him to be competent at anything so I don't know why debate #2 is where he's suddenly going to flower into an amazing debater. Anytime he gets some dumbass pundit or politician (like the Mexican president or Matt Lauer) to gently caress themselves over for his benefit it's basically a self own and not through some clever trick. He's basically the physical avatar of rich, white, male privileged and has been coasting that his entire life including this election to this moment and is suitably unprepared for any actual competition.
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Radish posted:Nothing Trump has done for the last two years has shown him to be competent at anything so I don't know why debate #2 is where he's suddenly going to flower into an amazing debater. Anytime he gets some dumbass pundit or politician (like the Mexican president or Matt Lauer) to gently caress themselves over for his benefit it's basically a self own and not through some clever trick. He's basically the physical avatar of rich, white, male privileged and has been coasting that his entire life including this election to this moment and is suitably unprepared for any actual competition. Exactly. Nothing will change between now and Sunday.
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Barbe Rouge posted:Azealia Banks? Jesse Hughes? Really?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Seagal did a reality TV show with Sheriff Joe Arpaio and loves Putin. He's also been a cop in Louisiana for the past, like, 20 years. Or at least that's what he told me.
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Radish posted:Nothing Trump has done for the last two years has shown him to be competent at anything so I don't know why debate #2 is where he's suddenly going to flower into an amazing debater. Anytime he gets some dumbass pundit or politician (like the Mexican president or Matt Lauer) to gently caress themselves over for his benefit it's basically a self own and not through some clever trick. He's basically the physical avatar of rich, white, male privileged and has been coasting that his entire life including this election to this moment and is suitably unprepared for any actual competition. Replace 'two years' with 'three decades' and you're more on track.
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lozzle posted:White rappers were a mistake. I trust and believe in Bubba Sparxxx. e: If Macklemore is voting for Jill Stein or something stupid like that, I'm going to hunt his rear end down and kick it as the whitest black person in Seattle.
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We literally just watched Trump fail at doing a 30 minute 'town hall' with an entirely friendly audience and no opponent or moderator.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Banks isn't actually pro-Trump, it was some sort of confusing accelerationist thing. I looked up the quote once, but don't really remember it. That is actually worse.
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sarmhan posted:We literally just watched Trump fail at doing a 30 minute 'town hall' with an entirely friendly audience and no opponent or moderator.
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Since a Trump presidency would mean the end of the US as a world power and a functional democracy, it's only natural that people are worried that he has even a small chance of doing well.
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lozzle posted:That is actually worse.
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VitalSigns posted:If Garland ever makes it to a floor vote he will pass with a bunch of Republican support. He was confirmed 99-0 when Obama appointed him to the federal district court. That's why McConnell won't let hearings or a vote happen. I still don't see what they hope to accomplish by continuing to block Garland. It isn't making them look any better, win more cases, and it won't make Trump any more likely to win. So why continue to waste time and money on this ridiculous nine-month stunt?
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if that practice town hall had aired on television in place of the actual town hall, it would have been called a loss - trump left early, didn't answer the questions well, went over his time, made a lot of bad and uncomfortable statements. Do you understand that? He lost to literally nothing. He had no opponent. And he still did badly! Clinton can suck as much at town halls as she wants to and so long as she's capable of stringing a coherent sentence together, she'll win.
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FactsAreUseless posted:She says he's the lovely candidate America deserves. I love Azealia Banks. Still counts as an endorsement. 
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At this point I honestly can't imagine an event that could cause me to worry about the outcome of the presidency. It's an immortal lock.
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Radish posted:Nothing Trump has done for the last two years has shown him to be competent at anything so I don't know why debate #2 is where he's suddenly going to flower into an amazing debater. Anytime he gets some dumbass pundit or politician (like the Mexican president or Matt Lauer) to gently caress themselves over for his benefit it's basically a self own and not through some clever trick. He's basically the physical avatar of rich, white, male privileged and has been coasting that his entire life including this election to this moment and is suitably unprepared for any actual competition. Agreed. I don't think he is going to do well. I just think that he won't bomb as badly as he did at the first one. If his first debate was a 1 out of 10, I really doubt he's going to pull a 0 this time. But a 2 out of 10 is better than before and still a bad loss.
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Eifert Posting posted:At this point I honestly can't imagine an event that could cause me to worry about the outcome of the presidency. It's an immortal lock. Trump could die and come back from the dead, proving he is literally Jesus. Short of that though yeah i agree.
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Koyaanisgoatse posted:Some dumbass on my Facebook feed was claiming that this effort was just a cover for giving money to their contractor friends or some poo poo like that Honestly, I can believe that. Have you seen recent pictures of Haiti? If that's waht a country looks like after the Clinton Foundation, I'd hate to see what it looked like before
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