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Reiterpallasch posted:yeah, one class in particular (lancer) has, for a significant chunk of its leveling experience, a rotation that consists of only one button two buttons
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Reiterpallasch posted:Words Surprisingly accurate. Asimo posted:That and spending 50 levels with freedom of movement to suddenly becoming a full caster is dumb as poo poo from a design and player satisfaction perspective. If I wanted to play a caster I would have just rolled black mage or summoner at the start, the only reason I went with archer as the first clas was because it felt a lot nicer to play. Preach.
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Asimo posted:Yes, but you're missing that the point is that it feels less enjoyable. To me, personally. And to many other people judging from the usual responses I've seen about it. If it is less enjoyable then I would prefer to enjoy it more and would like to be different, like when I was enjoying it previously. Something can be perfectly mechanically effective and not be fun. That's fine and all, but also it goes the other way. I don't see the issues. The ability has not impacted my enjoyment of the class. It's still highly mobile, even though you do indeed need to adapt to it. I don't consider turning Minuet off to DPS on the move as lost damage, but do consider keeping it on and doing absolutely nothing on the move as lost damage. Being extremely briefly locked out of the exclusive actions, assuming Empyreal has even come off cooldown, doesn't mean anything if you don't have the time to use them anyway. Reiterpallasch posted:dropping minuet in many circumstances means not being able to iron jaws, which is such an unimaginably huge dps loss that you're honestly better off doing 0 damage on another gcd if you have to  Learn the fights and reapply before it becomes an issue? See above. If you absolutely need to move your rear end, you're not using Iron Jaws at that moment anyway. It's seriously not a problem to Iron Jaws before mechanic, drop Minuet, move while Heavy Shotting, and reapplying Minuet when in the clear. Your DoTs are still snapshotted with Minuets bonus.Yes, ideally you should never have to drop Minuet. Learning fights and figuring out the best places to stand and when to stand there is part of the class now. But there are still instances where dropping Minuet, or using Feint, is nothing but a gain. Sophia arena tips are a good recent one. She's not invulnerable during those times, but you cannot get casts off. Instant attacks are still allowed to hurt her. Skaw fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Oct 8, 2016 |
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Reiterpallasch posted:yeah, one class in particular (lancer) has, for a significant chunk of its leveling experience, a rotation that consists of only one button That's not true. You still have Heavy Thrust to maintain, and Leg Sweep and Life Surge for ogcds. Impulse Drive Hell sucks, but it's not that bad.
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Reiterpallasch posted:please don't black mage is arguably the game's worst class about "cast these spells in a specific order or else you'll lose enochian and your vr helmet will fry your brain and you'll die irl" As a BLM main I've generally found that it's not that bad to keep up Enochian once you know the fight as long as you're willing to do stuff like refresh it a third time if you're about to be unable to hit the boss (boss goes invuln or you have to move). I'm leveling DRG and I've found Blood on the Dancefloor to be way more annoying since you have to be in melee range and if you drop the combo you've got to restart it (unlike Enochian where you can just B3 -> B4). Also, it baffles me how during the Plasma Shield phase of A11, they decided to make Cruise Chaser 'semi-invulnerable' (triggers on-hit effects, but takes 0 damage from everything) but the Plasma Shield completely invulnerable (doesn't refresh on-hit). vOv fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Oct 8, 2016 |
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Minuet sucks and I don't like stance dancing - I do it with AST because otherwise I just get bored - but I still really enjoy playing a bard. Even if I can't stand the look of bows that try and double as harps. Gandiva in particular looks unwieldy as gently caress.
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One neat trick to make low level Lancer more tolerable is get a few levels of Archer for Straight Shot and Raging Strikes. This gives you a few extra buttons to press to stave off the boredom of Impulse Drive spam.
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Brony Hunter posted:One neat trick to make low level Lancer more tolerable is get a few levels of Archer for Straight Shot and Raging Strikes. This gives you a few extra buttons to press to stave off the boredom of Impulse Drive spam. Venomous Bite and Fracture too. Even untraited, they're better total potency than Impulse Drive.
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Fister Roboto posted:Venomous Bite and Fracture too. Even untraited, they're better total potency than Impulse Drive. I wish I'd known that before I leveled to 26 in total impulse drive hell. 
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Elezen ladies are pretty and it's a shame I see more ugly Roegadames than them running around.
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TheRagamuffin posted:I wish I'd known that before I leveled to 26 in total impulse drive hell. 
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I hate new bard. So I tried BLM, I like big numbers nuke. But I miss mobile bard. It's dumb. For everything else there's Scholar.
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Also if you have rogue at 42 or higher you can actually cross-class Death Blossom as a lancer for some much-needed AOE. Thinking about it, I wish that LLDR could be split into 15-29 and 30+ so that I could have a reason to take off my job stone sometimes.
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Verranicus posted:Elezen ladies are pretty and it's a shame I see more ugly Roegadames than them running around. Go away Bonzi Buddy
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its really cool how picking a server is still complete trash
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Fister Roboto posted:Thinking about it, I wish that LLDR could be split into 15-29 and 30+ so that I could have a reason to take off my job stone sometimes. I would like this also, but mainly just so I can do LDR while avoiding Qarn, the worst dungeon ever made.
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I like wanderer's minuet and I unironically and sincerely hope that the bard balancing in 4.0 involves baking it into the class at level 1 so that people cry their bitch tears forever and ever amen
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I would be happy if Toto Rak was removed from the game. There is no dungeon more heinously boring than Toto Rak.
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"Why yes, adding large stretches of goop that give movement speed down that you have no way to avoid in an already long dungeon sounds like a brilliant idea!"
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Velthice posted:I like wanderer's minuet and I unironically and sincerely hope that the bard balancing in 4.0 involves baking it into the class at level 1 so that people cry their tears forever and ever amen
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kirbysuperstar posted:Go away Bonzi Buddy Roe women are bad and should get out, the room they make could fit at least two pretty Elezen.
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Fister Roboto posted:Also if you have rogue at 42 or higher you can actually cross-class Death Blossom as a lancer for some much-needed AOE. I wish there was a job that could cross-class Rogue skills. There's just so much in there that would be useful to just about anyone. 
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Velthice posted:I like wanderer's minuet and I unironically and sincerely hope that the bard balancing in 4.0 involves baking it into the class at level 1 so that people cry their bitch tears forever and ever amen The implementation of Wanderer's Minuet for Bard isn't as good as Machinist, so I agree with this wholeheartedly. Also, to all the people who are still upset about it, consider that it is very difficult to balance around a DPS class that can do 100% of its damage on the move. Wanderer's Minuet is a good and necessary change to the game.
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Verranicus posted:Roe women are bad and should get out, the room they make could fit at least two pretty Elezen. Both variants of Giant Women are excellent actually.
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As a BLM main during 2.0 If like to say Wanderers Minuet is good and fair.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Both variants of Giant Women are excellent actually. Elezen and Highlander, maybe.
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 And that's why I'm going to make a full stack of HQ Priestly Omelettes tomorrow.
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Priestly Omelettes are actually really good, and are like Baked Pipira Pira +1. I can't wait for the next patch for when I can make them without needing to be a CUL specialist.
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I keep sending my people on this one because it says they're equal to the task and the fail exp is still pretty good. But I have to know what they keep failing at. Are they just getting smashed on the free wine in the meeting room or something?
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I feel like the underwriting on that one is like "stage a mock battle against the Flames (and make sure we win it)". But then again, it's not surprising your wimps can't beat the best company. 
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Yeah, my pirates are just going to Ul'dah and drinking the town dry. They're not even showing up for the scrap. Sea Dogs for life.
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UHD posted:This actually made me upset when I was leveling bard - after BLM, the extreme mobility was a breath of fresh air. And that's probably the reason why it was taken out back and shot. I'm hoping beyond hope they remove Enochian in 4.0, but I know what'll actually happen will be this: quote:Level 65 Chucat fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Oct 8, 2016 |
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Chucat posted:I'm hoping beyond hope they remove Enochian in 4.0, but I know what'll actually happen will be this:  "
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Hivac posted:new 4.0 features: everyone now does everything instantly with infinite range. also you can fly and noclip. why not Fel Cleave can proc a second Fel Cleave. Can proc off of the proc indefinitely.
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