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Blade_of_tyshalle: Jul 12, 2009; If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

I quite like how Betazoids are identical to humans, except for their inky black irises. It's subtle and really really made Suder even creepier.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 04:09

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remusclaw: Dec 8, 2009

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

I quite like how Betazoids are identical to humans, except for their inky black irises. It's subtle and really really made Suder even creepier.

I like how that is absolutely a thing I would never have ever noticed watching TNG on anything but a modern HDTV with the HD remaster.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 05:30

FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

I have never in my life noticed that Diana Troi had black contact lenses, and I watched TNG religiously and saw two of those terrible TNG movies at the theatre.

Then Lon Suder comes in with loving crazy eyes and I learn they all should look like that?

I just feel bad for Marina Sirtis having to wear useless eye contacts for years. And for bothering with an invented accent that no one followed up on.

For a Betazed, Troi is oddly prudish.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 06:08

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Subyng posted:

What constitutes as "alien" in Star trek is usually some really weak bullshit. You can give them a pass on the makeup; just assume that all aliens actually look way more hideous than depicted. But when it comes to describing things that don't need to be visually rendered, you don't have such limits. Wow, Vulcans have GREEN blood? Ferengi have FOUR lobes? Boring. How about, "wow, did you know Klingons have a decentralized nervous system? If you cut its head off they keep going and eventually grow a new one! Explains why they don't view violence in a negative light; it's actually really hard to fully kill a Klingon"

"Vulcan blood actually contains a potent neurotoxin. When Spock performs the neck pinch, microscopic needles on the finger tips actually inject this substance into the bloodstream, rendering the victim unconscious. Of course, this substance is not toxic to vulcans, but it does cause psychotropic effects when transferred among vulcans, giving rise to the phenomenon known as a mind meld. During this process these molecules are exchanged and travel into the brain and cause specific patterns of neurons to fire in each participant allowing them to experience each others thoughts

or some poo poo like that.

Well the question becomes "what does this do for the narrative," though of course to some extent it's exploring these ideas. The Trill are extremely hosed up - I saw that one where some dude comes up to symbiotejack Jadzia the other night. Very effective. I wonder what would have happened to that guy if he'd fully integrated with Dax.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 06:19

Farmer Crack-Ass: Jan 2, 2001; this is me posting irl

Subyng posted:

What constitutes as "alien" in Star trek is usually some really weak bullshit. You can give them a pass on the makeup; just assume that all aliens actually look way more hideous than depicted. But when it comes to describing things that don't need to be visually rendered, you don't have such limits. Wow, Vulcans have GREEN blood? Ferengi have FOUR lobes? Boring. How about, "wow, did you know Klingons have a decentralized nervous system? If you cut its head off they keep going and eventually grow a new one! Explains why they don't view violence in a negative light; it's actually really hard to fully kill a Klingon"

"Vulcan blood actually contains a potent neurotoxin. When Spock performs the neck pinch, microscopic needles on the finger tips actually inject this substance into the bloodstream, rendering the victim unconscious. Of course, this substance is not toxic to vulcans, but it does cause psychotropic effects when transferred among vulcans, giving rise to the phenomenon known as a mind meld. During this process these molecules are exchanged and travel into the brain and cause specific patterns of neurons to fire in each participant allowing them to experience each others thoughts

or some poo poo like that.

yeah it turns out most of the "aliens" in space opera aren't actually alien, they're just people that look a little different

# ? Oct 9, 2016 06:30

WickedHate: Aug 1, 2013; by Lowtax

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

yeah it turns out most of the "aliens" in space opera aren't actually alien, they're just people that look a little different

Just like real life aliens!

# ? Oct 9, 2016 06:38

WeAreTheRomans: Feb 23, 2010; by R. Guyovich

remusclaw posted:

I like how that is absolutely a thing I would never have ever noticed watching TNG on anything but a modern HDTV with the HD remaster.

mind blown

# ? Oct 9, 2016 10:01

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Yeah I had no clue at all about the Betazoid eye thing until someone in the thread mentioned it.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 10:10

Pwnstar: Dec 9, 2007; Who wants some waffles?

Just saw the one where Riker temporarily gets assigned to a Klingon ship. What a loving champion, just chowing into all that Klingon food, getting into fights and taking command of the ship when poo poo goes down. Plus he totally nailed those Klingon chicks.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 11:00

WeAreTheRomans: Feb 23, 2010; by R. Guyovich

Pwnstar posted:

Just saw the one where Riker temporarily gets assigned to a Klingon ship. What a loving champion, just chowing into all that Klingon food, getting into fights and taking command of the ship when poo poo goes down. Plus he totally nailed those Klingon chicks.

Riker just owns more and more as the show goes on. Not Thomas Riker though that dude is a loving dweeb

# ? Oct 9, 2016 11:05

Nitrousoxide: May 30, 2011; do not buy a oneplus phone

Phimosissy posted:

Just watched TNG 4.17 Night Terrors, which is a pretty good episode and one I'll always remember for the X-Files style freakout of the dead bodies sitting up on Crusher.

At the very end, Data orders Picard to bed, and Picard walks down and enters the door just to the left of the viewscreen and it's a turbolift instead of the ready room. What the gently caress just happened?

EDIT:

looking at bridge layouts on the google, it appears that there is a turbolift door and the ready room right there. You can now mock me for being dumb. I really don't remember that turbolift. Is that where Worf went in that other mindfuck episode where the door opened from one bridge to an identical bridge?

The doesn't that turbolift go directly to the battle bridge?

# ? Oct 9, 2016 11:23

8one6: May 20, 2012; When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!

Pwnstar posted:

Just saw the one where Riker temporarily gets assigned to a Klingon ship. What a loving champion, just chowing into all that Klingon food, getting into fights and taking command of the ship when poo poo goes down. Plus he totally nailed those Klingon chicks.

"One... or both?"

# ? Oct 9, 2016 14:28

The Bloop: Jul 5, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Nitrousoxide posted:

The doesn't that turbolift go directly to the battle bridge?

Don't all turbolifts go everywhere like a Wonkavator?

# ? Oct 9, 2016 14:45

Nitrousoxide: May 30, 2011; do not buy a oneplus phone

Phimosissy posted:

Don't all turbolifts go everywhere like a Wonkavator?

I think there's supposed to be one that only goes between the two bridges to ensure the senior staff can evac to the backup bridge quickly.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 15:00

MikeJF: Dec 20, 2003

Which to be honest doesn't make a lot of sense given that the computer should be able to prioritise; just have the direct shaft as part of the main system.

Ah, whatever, they didn't put much thought into it.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 15:04

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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

That doesn't make sense. We know he grabbed film clips and sold cels and clips (and other trinkets) through Lincoln Enterprises; if he had taken the whole episode negatives and been willing to sell them, how would the lack of eBay have prevented him from doing so?

I have a hard time believing Paramount would have accepted him walking off with everything. They still wanted to sell the series in syndication, even if they didn't have high hopes for it early on.

Hyperbole.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 15:44

Falken: Jan 26, 2004; Do you feel like a hero yet?

There's no guilt in skipping Nagus/Ferengi episodes and mirror universe episodes in DS9, is there?

We just can't listen to Zek's horrific, cringey voice, all the "females" bullshit.

The magnificent Ferengi was pretty awesome however.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 17:44

The Bloop: Jul 5, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Falken posted:

There's no guilt in skipping Nagus/Ferengi episodes and mirror universe episodes in DS9, is there?

We just can't listen to Zek's horrific, cringey voice, all the "females" bullshit.

The magnificent Ferengi was pretty awesome however.

There is great shame in skipping Ferengi episodes which should be accompanied by massive feelings of guilt.

One (you know which one) is excusable maybe.

Mirror episodes don't really matter I guess if it's not your thing.

True fans bij and don't skip. :gowron:

# ? Oct 9, 2016 17:49

WeAreTheRomans: Feb 23, 2010; by R. Guyovich

It's true, once you learn to really sit back and experience Bij, the burden of Trekdom becomes bearable.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 17:52

Pakled: Aug 6, 2011; WE ARE SMART

Falken posted:

There's no guilt in skipping Nagus/Ferengi episodes and mirror universe episodes in DS9, is there?

We just can't listen to Zek's horrific, cringey voice, all the "females" bullshit.

The magnificent Ferengi was pretty awesome however.

Profit and Lace is skippable, the others aren't. :colbert:

# ? Oct 9, 2016 17:56

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# ? Oct 9, 2016 18:20

McSpanky: Jan 16, 2005

MikeJF posted:

Which to be honest doesn't make a lot of sense given that the computer should be able to prioritise; just have the direct shaft as part of the main system.

Ah, whatever, they didn't put much thought into it.

An independent direct line in case of accident/damage/general failure of the main system seems pretty well-thought to me.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 18:22

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

Nitrousoxide posted:

The doesn't that turbolift go directly to the battle bridge?

The one next to the ready room is a normal turbolift. The one to the right of the viewscreen goes straight to the battle bridge.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 18:37

Fister Roboto: Feb 21, 2008

Just watched Schisms last night and it definitely takes the cake for "the computer can tell you that a crew member was abducted from the ship, but it won't alert you when it actually happens". I think that's one of the dumbest things about TNG for me.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 19:07

socialsecurity: Aug 30, 2003

Fister Roboto posted:

Just watched Schisms last night and it definitely takes the cake for "the computer can tell you that a crew member was abducted from the ship, but it won't alert you when it actually happens". I think that's one of the dumbest things about TNG for me.

Been doing early DS9 and this would solve about half those plots to, at least they pay lip service to the "dam Cardaissian computer" sometimes.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 19:12

Kibbles n Shits: Apr 8, 2006; burgerpug.png; Fun Shoe

Fister Roboto posted:

Just watched Schisms last night and it definitely takes the cake for "the computer can tell you that a crew member was abducted from the ship, but it won't alert you when it actually happens". I think that's one of the dumbest things about TNG for me.

Hey, it's just a space supercomputer that can answer questions intelligently and generate holograms capable of taking over the ship, it's not your babysitter.

As far as DS9 Ferengi stuff they are mostly watchable with Profit and Lace being utterly skippable, and The Magnificent Ferengi being the highlight of Ferengi-centric episodes with everything else falling somewhere in the middle.

Kibbles n Shits fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Oct 9, 2016

# ? Oct 9, 2016 19:55

greatn: Nov 15, 2006; by Lowtax

Maybe the enterprise is like my work where one of the managers keeps turning off Nagios alerts because it sends too many emails

# ? Oct 9, 2016 20:05

Farmer Crack-Ass: Jan 2, 2001; this is me posting irl

Fister Roboto posted:

Just watched Schisms last night and it definitely takes the cake for "the computer can tell you that a crew member was abducted from the ship, but it won't alert you when it actually happens". I think that's one of the dumbest things about TNG for me.

I'm okay with it when Q's responsible, because at least then it's trivial to say "well Q also futzed with the ship's computer when he teleported Picard away" or whatever.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 20:23

Flakey: Apr 30, 2009; There's no need to speak. You must only concentrate and recall all your past life. When a man thinks of the past, he becomes kinder.

Fister Roboto posted:

Just watched Schisms last night and it definitely takes the cake for "the computer can tell you that a crew member was abducted from the ship, but it won't alert you when it actually happens". I think that's one of the dumbest things about TNG for me.

Speaking of the computer, I love the Federation's approach to privacy, or freedom of information I guess. Anyone aboard, including civilians, can ask where someone else is, and the computer totally doesn't respond with "gently caress off unless you have command clearance" or something to that effect.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 20:30

tigersklaw: May 8, 2008

Flakey posted:

Speaking of the computer, I love the Federation's approach to privacy, or freedom of information I guess. Anyone aboard, including civilians, can ask where someone else is, and the computer totally doesn't respond with "gently caress off unless you have command clearance" or something to that effect.

"Computer, locate Ensign Ricky"

"Ensign Ricky is currently in his quarters nailing his wife. Shall I contact him for you?"

"...no, let him finish"

# ? Oct 9, 2016 21:15

Flakey: Apr 30, 2009; There's no need to speak. You must only concentrate and recall all your past life. When a man thinks of the past, he becomes kinder.

tigersklaw posted:

"Computer, locate Ensign Ricky"

"Ensign Ricky is currently in his quarters refuckulating his wife. Shall I contact him for you?"

"...no, let him finish"

Is it unfuckulating?

# ? Oct 9, 2016 21:26

The_Doctor: Mar 29, 2007; "The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

tigersklaw posted:

"Computer, locate Ensign Ricky"

"Ensign Ricky is currently in his quarters nailing his wife. Shall I contact him for you?"

"...no, let him finish"

"Ensign Ricky will finish in approximately 3.2 seconds."

# ? Oct 9, 2016 21:29

greatn: Nov 15, 2006; by Lowtax

The_Doctor posted:

"Ensign Ricky will finish in approximately 3.2 seconds."

Correction: ensign Ricky was unable to maintain an erection and will not finish

# ? Oct 9, 2016 22:24

Kibbles n Shits: Apr 8, 2006; burgerpug.png; Fun Shoe

Ensign Ricky is in his quarters masturbating to the latest issue of the Duras swimsuit calendar

# ? Oct 9, 2016 22:38

Gonz: Dec 22, 2009; "Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

Kibbles n Shits posted:

Ensign Ricky is in his quarters masturbating to the latest issue of the Duras swimsuit calendar

While enjoying a bottle of this, I would assume.

A flavor that betrays the tongue.....from a vineyard without honor!

# ? Oct 9, 2016 22:42

Timby: Dec 23, 2006; Your mother!

MikeJF posted:

Ah, whatever, they didn't put much thought into it.

Much like whether or not you need to tap the communicator pin in order to use it. I swear it's different every other episode.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 22:56

Nessus: Dec 22, 2003; After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!

I watched "Melora" last night and experienced bij. Not so much for the handi-capable message as that Melora just stated all that stuff like she was reading off a FAQ page on HandiCapablenotHandiCapped.com. It came off particularly weird because it all got presented as if she was a hew-mon with some degenerative or low-G condition, but she's actually an alien from some microgravity planet.

So I'd think that this would more strongly inform her character, or at least how the concept was portrayed. You could even keep all the chair/brace props and just have her come off more as pugnacious because her people aren't a bunch of sissy wimps just because their bones are fragile and their muscles are skimpy. Have her be standing up (so to speak) for her people, instead of it being so individually focused. This also made the B-plot very strange, even leaving aside the fact that Bashir just apparently shoved some kind of neural stimulator into her in order to prompt her to muscle up because, I guess, gently caress you, frontier medicine.

Then in the next episode I instantly spotted the female Ferengi in male clothes, so maybe I'm just the Discerning Audience.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 23:35

WeAreTheRomans: Feb 23, 2010; by R. Guyovich

Nessus posted:

Then in the next episode I instantly spotted the female Ferengi in male clothes, so maybe I'm just the Discerning Audience.

DS9 was very progressive with trans issues

# ? Oct 9, 2016 23:53

Nessus: Dec 22, 2003; After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!

WeAreTheRomans posted:

DS9 was very progressive with trans issues

This was the one with the prosthetic lobes, not... that one

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Pakled posted:

Profit and Lace is skippable, the others aren't.

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