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trash person posted:The whole Bill thing was an absolute non-starter. That's why I don't get why he did his press conference with them before the debate. Do it on Tuesday or Wednesday. Not literally right before something that will inevitably be a far bigger hold on the news cycle. He's a bully, he thought it would psych her out. Remember, this is the man who thought it was a good idea to accuse Ted Cruz's dad of assassinating JFK.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:24
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FlamingLiberal posted:As someone with Canadian family this talking point always annoys me. I've been hearing this comment for something like 20 years of 'oh Canadians hate their healthcare, they have to wait 6 months for emergency surgery blah blah'. This is also used against European single-payer. Meanwhile, over here in the US I was denied access to a medication that ended up taking me from 'barely able to move because my arthritis is crippling' to 'Everything's basically fine I just have slightly sensitive wrists' for months because my insurer insisted my chart said I had RHEUMATOID and not PSORIATIC arthritis despite my doctor calling them regularly to be like 'No man, give him the loving humira'. So that was a 4 month period of suffering because they refused to believe they'd made a clerical error. That was fun.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:24
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So is there seriously a poo poo poster here who does to puppies what Trump does to pussy? Not a perfect performance by any means for Clinton, but Trump loses by being a wannabe dictator. Jesus his answer to the Islamophobia question was like the absolute worst possible way to answer that.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:24
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FlamingLiberal posted:As someone with Canadian family this talking point always annoys me. I've been hearing this comment for something like 20 years of 'oh Canadians hate their healthcare, they have to wait 6 months for emergency surgery blah blah'. This is also used against European single-payer.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:25
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Oct 10, 2016 06:27
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disjoe posted:Stolen from CSpam: Uh, what?
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Night10194 posted:Meanwhile, over here in the US I was denied access to a medication that ended up taking me from 'barely able to move because my arthritis is crippling' to 'Everything's basically fine I just have slightly sensitive wrists' for months because my insurer insisted my chart said I had RHEUMATOID and not PSORIATIC arthritis despite my doctor calling them regularly to be like 'No man, give him the loving humira'. So that was a 4 month period of suffering because they refused to believe they'd made a clerical error. That was fun. But Humira is expensive, you really have to consider the feelings of the insurance company.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:28
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disjoe posted:Stolen from CSpam: I assume that he means that now is the time that the two campaigns desperately begin the race to spin their candidate's debate performance into a triumphant win, but I'm gonna close my eyes, go to sleep, and dream of Mike Pence calling Donald Trump deplorable as he officially resigns as his VP candidate.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:28
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disjoe posted:Stolen from CSpam: God damnit Costa I want sleep. Now you've got me hoping that the Pence thing is real.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:28
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eviltastic posted:God damnit Costa I want sleep. Now you've got me hoping that the Pence thing is real. Not going to happen.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:29
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someone actually died in my local er a few weeks ago after a 28 hour wait without seeing a doctor and the coroner called our hospital the worse in the western world. i personally had to wait 6 hours in the er with a broken jaw as a kid. yea the healthcare i "free" or whatever but its incredibly bad and costs 50% of our whole budget. All the rich people are definitely going to the USA for treatment.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:29
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speng31b posted:Not going to happen. I want to believe.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:29
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Tiler Kiwi posted:yeah clinton ought to have countered on this one. its a prevalent and longstanding meme, though. my grandma and mother believe it; there's not enough of a ground level left wing information machine to counter this sort of whisper campaign poo poo though, so people just assume the thing that "everyone knows" is true. It was already based on the false premise that Hillary is pushing for single payer (which I wish she would but is also unpopular) so countering it would be answering if she's still beating her wife.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:29
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disjoe posted:Stolen from CSpam: gently caress, no, I have to sleep. Let me off this crazy train for a moment. 
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Oct 10, 2016 06:31
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reminder: and trump still complained he didn't have enough time to talk.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:32
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Honestly Costa probably just heard of a RNC meeting to prioritize down ballot and leave Trump for dead.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:33
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:someone actually died in my local er a few weeks ago after a 28 hour wait without seeing a doctor and the coroner called our hospital the worse in the western world. i personally had to wait 6 hours in the er with a broken jaw as a kid. yea the healthcare i "free" or whatever but its incredibly bad and costs 50% of our whole budget. All the rich people are definitely going to the USA for treatment.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:33
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Tiler Kiwi posted:yeah clinton ought to have countered on this one. its a prevalent and longstanding meme, though. my grandma and mother believe it; there's not enough of a ground level left wing information machine to counter this sort of whisper campaign poo poo though, so people just assume the thing that "everyone knows" is true. Hillary doesn't want it and basically nobody in America wants to pay the tax rate necessary to make single payer happen. Deal with it.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:33
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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Night10194 posted:Meanwhile, over here in the US I was denied access to a medication that ended up taking me from 'barely able to move because my arthritis is crippling' to 'Everything's basically fine I just have slightly sensitive wrists' for months because my insurer insisted my chart said I had RHEUMATOID and not PSORIATIC arthritis despite my doctor calling them regularly to be like 'No man, give him the loving humira'. So that was a 4 month period of suffering because they refused to believe they'd made a clerical error. That was fun. Here in FL Rick Scott has refused to do what some other states have done and expand Medicaid with federal funds as part of Obamacare because he's a tool. Of course thanks to SCOTUS' Obamacare ruling states were allowed to decide whether or not to 'opt-in' to this expansion, rather than just do it as the law had intended. So there is a sizeable 'doughnut hole' of people in FL (around 1 million) who make too much to qualify for Medicaid but too poor to qualify for healthcare subsidies on the healthcare exchanges. One woman here in this state died because she was in this situation. She had a genetic heart defect which meant she had to take I think nitroglycerin pills so she wouldn't die. Well eventually she had financial problems with her jobs and was unable to afford all of the required medication, and as mentioned fell into this 'doughnut hole' of no coverage. So she bought the drugs she could afford and took partial dosages until her heart failed and she died. She had at least one small child who will have no parent because Rick Scott is a giant rear end in a top hat who would rather not expand Medicaid out of 'principle' as opposed to save lives. https://thinkprogress.org/this-32-year-old-florida-woman-is-dead-because-her-state-refused-to-expand-medicaid-431e2e37d9d1#.tsrai4x8s
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Oct 10, 2016 06:33
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Instant Sunrise posted:reminder: Yeah but to be fair that extra minute was all the time he spent complaining about extra minutes.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:33
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Instant Sunrise posted:reminder: https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/785352070568304640
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Oct 10, 2016 06:34
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disjoe posted:Honestly Costa probably just heard of a RNC meeting to prioritize down ballot and leave Trump for dead.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:34
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Lamb Chowder posted:This is a political artifact that doesn't seem to go away and it gets into weirder territory than any freeloading food stampers with IPhones claims down to people claiming whole ghost towns of Canadians appearing out of the mist along the plain state borders like the Flying Dutchman if it were a hospital ship. It would be hilarious if Trump's statement spirals into a serious movement of "those durn frostbacks comin' in an' takin' ar healthcare!"
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Oct 10, 2016 06:34
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I don't have any interest in guys loving but I'd happily kick Chuck Tingle a sawbuck for bringing me the humor he has over the last year or so.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:34
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DeusExMachinima posted:Hillary doesn't want it and basically nobody in America wants to pay the tax rate necessary to make single payer happen. Deal with it.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:35
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Andrast posted:But Humira is expensive, you really have to consider the feelings of the insurance company. I mean, it genuinely is. I have to make sure I structure what insurance I pick around 'Can I keep getting my loving humira' because there is no way in hell I could afford even half price on this stuff. Were it not for Obamacare none of the insurers would even take me since I have an expensive pre-existing. One of the (many) reasons this election is loving personal is one of the candidates is out to push plans that would lead to me going back to being crippled. When I first got my medication, the day after I first took it, I remember getting up and feeling really strange and heading off to a meeting, unable to put my finger on it. When I got out of my car without having to pause a few seconds to brace myself for how much any pressure on my wrists was going to hurt it hit me: I wasn't in pain for the first time in like 3 years.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:35
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:someone actually died in my local er a few weeks ago after a 28 hour wait without seeing a doctor and the coroner called our hospital the worse in the western world. i personally had to wait 6 hours in the er with a broken jaw as a kid. yea the healthcare i "free" or whatever but its incredibly bad and costs 50% of our whole budget. All the rich people are definitely going to the USA for treatment. Go look up how often that happens in the American healthcare system. One person dying is still one too many, but it still happens much less often here than down there. Our system is far from perfect but its still better than most other countries have to offer.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:35
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FlamingLiberal posted:As someone with Canadian family this talking point always annoys me. I've been hearing this comment for something like 20 years of 'oh Canadians hate their healthcare, they have to wait 6 months for emergency surgery blah blah'. This is also used against European single-payer. gently caress it, I'll take it a step further. As someone who suffered a life-threatening emergency (an extremely virulent and near-dearly case of H1N1 Swine Flu), the Canadian healthcare system saved my life. I hobbled into the emergency room of my local hospital on death's door and was basically catapulted immediately into the intensive care unit, where I was placed in a medically induced coma and put on a ventilator for three and a half weeks as a team of doctors and nurses worked their asses off to try and save my life while my parents and sister waited in heartbreaking anxiety and cried themselves to sleep every night as I teetered on the edge of pulling through or slipping away and dying. When I came out of that coma, I had another three weeks head of me in the hospital, ten days more in the ICU and another ten in recovery in general population, plus three months recovery time at home. I still haven't fully recovered from it, in all honesty. The breathing tube they shoved down my throat permanently damaged my voice box, my lungs are caked with scar tissue from both the H1N1 and the pneumonia I also had whilst fighting it, and my tongue still hurts every day as it slowly grows back because the doctors cut a nickle-sized chunk of it out to fit the breathing tube down my throat. Was my stay in the hospital a living hell? God yes. Did I scream at and curse out several doctors and nurses with my barely audible intubation-ravaged voice in a medication impaired state? You wouldn't believe it. Do I think I could have gotten better care? Probably. But that doesn't loving matter. I'm alive. Because of the Canadian healthcare system. Which spent tens of thousands of dollars on me alone to make sure I would survive. And neither I, nor my parents, nor my sister, nor anyone else in my life has to pay for one cent of it. gently caress Donald Trump. Forever.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:36
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disjoe posted:Honestly Costa probably just heard of a RNC meeting to prioritize down ballot and leave Trump for dead. Yeah word on the street was that R leadership was going to meet after debate to figure out where to go from here. I doubt Trump performed at a level to inspire them to actually stand behind him.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:37
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disjoe posted:Stolen from CSpam: Dammit Costa, spill it.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:37
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Kilroy posted:And make sure you deal with it soon because you literally have less time to deal with it than people who live in countries with single-payer health care. All the flavors in the world and you choose salty.  Doctors in America usually charge/get paid more than other countries and none of them want that to change. People in America usually pay less in taxes and nobody wants it to change.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:38
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Kilroy posted:And make sure you deal with it soon because you literally have less time to deal with it than people who live in countries with single-payer health care. Some Non single-payer countries have higher life expectancies than single-payer ones.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:38
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Paul Ryan is planning to have a meeting with House Republicans tomorrow morning. The RNC is planning to have a conference call with all members of the RNC tomorrow afternoon. No agenda, not yet known what they are going to talk about, but obviously the GOP has to be freaked the gently caress out by their insane, hated, moronic nominee.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:38
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As much as a lot of people are disappointed that Hillary didn't perform the coup de gras tonight when you're in a knife fight and your opponent is flailing around bleeding out in the corner the smart move is to keep them penned in and let nature take it's course, and I feel that's pretty much exactly what she did.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:39
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So Costa is on MSNBC now and all he said was Trump's team doesn't give a flying gently caress about the RNC meeting tomorrow. So probably no Pence stuff, probably nothing dramatic, but probably a huge shift in Republican Party resources away from the Trump campaign. But Costa was a little dodgy when asked about Pence, so I don't think even he knows what's going on there.
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Oct 10, 2016 06:39
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Northjayhawk posted:Paul Ryan is planning to have a meeting with House Republicans tomorrow morning. The RNC is planning to have a conference call with all members of the RNC tomorrow afternoon. Don't forget private polling by the two parties apparently suggested the Trump Death Spiral is actually worse than it looks. If he didn't even end up stopping the bleeding tonight and they know more is coming...
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Oct 10, 2016 06:39
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DeusExMachinima posted:All the flavors in the world and you choose salty. A shitton of people want our medical system to change, what universe do you live in?
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Oct 10, 2016 06:39
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Yeah word on the street was that R leadership was going to meet after debate to figure out where to go from here. I doubt Trump performed at a level to inspire them to actually stand behind him. Yeah, but did he perform poorly enough that they can be openly hostile to him? It's difficult to imagine how hard GOP leadership would get hosed by Trump's base.
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DeusExMachinima posted:All the flavors in the world and you choose salty. But yes other people, stupid people, don't want it to change. Yet. That is correct.
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