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The one thing I understood about Trump's health insurance plan was the one about "knocking state borders down" because as an employer it's something he'd be familiar with. Basically he wants to cause yet another regulatory race to the bottom but this time in the health insurance sector. His idea is to force states to respect each other's regulations so that a plan that flies in Delaware must also be accepted in California.
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 the merger of the trump campaign with breitbart is complete next debate, he will ask her if shes still loving huma
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So. Let's have some fun. RCP right now: 2-way: C+4.9. Only T+ poll is LA Times T+3. Take that out and you get C+5.875 4-way: C+4.5. No T+ polls and one tied poll: Gravis. 
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Biggest disappointment was Clinton speaking to a Muslim woman about how we should combat Islamophobia, only in regards to how it will make Muslims helpful in the war on terror. It's a terrible answer.
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I think the main reason people are afraid to leak the Apprentice tapes, even anonymously, is that they also have Mark Burnett on them being a creep and/or racist, which is why he is so adamant about not having them released and publicly saying he will sue into the ground anyone who does release it. That being said, if I had access to the tapes, I'd release the gently caress out of them. Can't land in jail for it, and I'd take the 5 mil and move to Senegal, change my name, and open a straw hat hut on the beach.
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Antti posted:The one thing I understood about Trump's health insurance plan was the one about "knocking state borders down" because as an employer it's something he'd be familiar with. Basically he wants to cause yet another regulatory race to the bottom but this time in the health insurance sector. His idea is to force states to respect each other's regulations so that a plan that flies in Delaware must also be accepted in California. oh he doesn't even know what that means -- its bog standard Republican talking point -- but yes this is what it would do
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Oct 10, 2016 14:38
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lozzle posted:He's a wealthy white man. There was never any chance he was going to go to prison for financial crimes. Wesley Snipes tweeting about that exact hypocrisy last night was almost as good as Carrie Fischer accusing Trump of having a coke habit.
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Charlz Guybon posted:He threatened to hang his Vice President for treason, and if he had it would have been up there with his defense of New Orleans as the greatest thing he ever did. John C. Calhoun was literally a vampire. 
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Mind_Taker posted:The general feeling I have is that Trump wasn't terrible for his own standards, but Hillary didn't make any gaffes that will get any traction in the media. Could she have landed a knockout blow? Maybe, but remember there is still one more debate and plenty of time for more dirt to come out about Trump. The next debate is going to be Trump and the moderator tag-teaming Hillary and doing whatever they can to bury her before her 90 minutes are up. It's Trump's friendliest environment yet and I'm sure Conway et al will be doping him to the gills and coaching him as much as they're able to keep him from loving it up.
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Oct 10, 2016 14:40
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I don't like the "You go low, we go high" messaging. She needed to tell him what a piece of poo poo sexual predator he is. She needed to be as outraged as the rest of us are.
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Tender Bender posted:Biggest disappointment was Clinton speaking to a Muslim woman about how we should combat Islamophobia, only in regards to how it will make Muslims helpful in the war on terror. It's a terrible answer. I didn't think that was the bulk of her response at all -- the bulk of it was "Muslims are good americans and we're not at war with Islam"
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Why is it bad if Insurance comopanies are restricted to one state? I still don't understand that whole process wouldn't it be better to have national insurance?
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Tender Bender posted:Biggest disappointment was Clinton speaking to a Muslim woman about how we should combat Islamophobia, only in regards to how it will make Muslims helpful in the war on terror. It's a terrible answer. So really you got Trump and Clinton confused?
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mcmagic posted:I don't like the "You go low, we go high" messaging. She needed to tell him what a piece of poo poo sexual predator he is. I am sure it would be more satisfying to the left and her personally, but I can tell you which is a better strategy to maximize your win and it ain't this one.
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Oct 10, 2016 14:41
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It's hilarious Trump tried to turn the debate into an episode of Jerry Springer, who is another celebrity more fit for the Ocal Office than Trump. Actually that would be a fun game - name a celebrity who'd make a better POTUS candidate than the one the GOP nominated.
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Oct 10, 2016 14:41
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DaveWoo posted:Good, I'm glad that CNN is taking this seriously. The general tone I'm hearing/reading from much of the media right now seems to be "gosh, wasn't that a crazy debate? Ken Bone lol" which doesn't really capture just how absolutely hosed up it is to call for the imprisonment of your political opponent. quote:Garry Kasparov ✔ @Kasparov63
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I am sure it would be more satisfying to the left and her personally, but I can tell you which is a better strategy to maximize your win and it ain't this one. I think what she did was the coasting strategy.
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Oct 10, 2016 14:42
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bencreateddisco posted:can someone tell me more about how lovely wikileaks is? They did a release of Hillary Clinton information literally one hour after the Donald Trump Pussy video was released in order to distract people from it.
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bencreateddisco posted:can someone tell me more about how lovely wikileaks is? They are essentially a Russian propaganda outfit at this point.
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lozzle posted:Yeah but Trump will have a major scandal and his support in the LA Times poll will actually go up while literally every other poll shows cratering support. It makes no earthly sense. My guess is that it comes down to recalled vote weighting. The responses to the LA Times poll are weighted so that what people say they voted in 2012 is adjusted to match the real 2012 vote share. But with the republicans on the ropes, respondents are more likely to misrecall how they voted in 2012. So for example, if a bunch of Trumpers start disowning the republicans, once LAT applies its adjustment suddenly it seems like a bunch of 'independents' are now supporting Trump.
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Hollismason posted:Why is it bad if Insurance comopanies are restricted to one state? I still don't understand that whole process wouldn't it be better to have national insurance? Because what happens is they find the state with the lowest standards (and there will be a race to this) and thats where every plan will be based out of. Just like why all your credit card companies are based out of South Dakota or Delaware. mcmagic posted:I think what she did was the coasting strategy. Without opening up round 556 of andichu vs mcmagic, I think you've displayed a pretty big inability to grasp how to win national elections and Hillary could literally garrote him on stage and you'd find something to complain about.
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Hollismason posted:Why is it bad if Insurance comopanies are restricted to one state? I still don't understand that whole process wouldn't it be better to have national insurance? right wingers want the "lines gone" so insurance companies can flee to the state with the least regulation.
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Oct 10, 2016 14:43
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bencreateddisco posted:can someone tell me more about how lovely wikileaks is? The short version is: Julian Assange is very pro-Putin and receives support from Russia. He is very opposed to U.S. imperialism and intervention in Eastern Europe and the Middle East. His leaks are primarily designed with that in mind. Lots of people who were against Iraq cheered when they released documents that tainted people on Iraq. They haven't had too many successes lately and they have become kind of unhinged. They got caught mixing in fake documents with their real leaks and didn't redact any information from their leaks, so they leaked the names of gay activists and anti-government leaders in Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Afghanistan, and Iran. Probably endangering their lives. They have also adopted a lot of the weird conspiracy theories and anti-Semitism that is popular on Russian nationalist media.
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mcmagic posted:I don't like the "You go low, we go high" messaging. She needed to tell him what a piece of poo poo sexual predator he is. She needed to be as outraged as the rest of us are. "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."
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Tiler Kiwi posted:right wingers want the "lines gone" so insurance companies can flee to the state with the least regulation. Thanks for that explanation. I was trying to figure what this whole thing was about.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Because what happens is they find the state with the lowest standards (and there will be a race to this) and thats where every plan will be based out of. Just like why all your credit card companies are based out of South Dakota or Delaware. Funny how states' rights are hurriedly stuffed back in the closet whenever things like business regulation or marijuana come up.
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CascadeBeta posted:This will stick in people's minds a lot more than the debate. Sure some people will be like YEAH LOCK THE BITCH UP but I think a whole hell of a lot more will be very uncomfortable with the implications of what Trump said. One of my supervisors is a total gun nut, hordes silver, every other weird right wing thing possible, and even he was uncomfortable with that.
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Antti posted:Funny how states' rights are hurriedly stuffed back in the closet whenever things like business regulation or marijuana come up. It's almost like they don't care.
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Yvonmukluk posted:It's hilarious Trump tried to turn the debate into an episode of Jerry Springer, who is another celebrity more fit for the Ocal Office than Trump. Actually that would be a fun game - name a celebrity who'd make a better POTUS candidate than the one the GOP nominated. Gary Busey?
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Ah, here it is:quote:Trump: You were still in contact with the White House. And perhaps sadly, Obama probably still listened to you. I don't think he would listen to you very much anymore. Obama draws the line in the sand. It was laughed at all over the world what happened. Now, with that being said, she talks tough against Russia, but our nuclear program has fallen way behind and they have gone wild with their nuclear program. Not good. Our government shouldn’t have allowed that to happen. Russia is new in terms of nuclear and we are old and tired and exhausted in terms of nuclear. A very bad thing.
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lozzle posted:"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it." That is a catchy line but I think she let him stand up there and look too much like a "normal" republican for most of the debate.
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Yvonmukluk posted:It's hilarious Trump tried to turn the debate into an episode of Jerry Springer, who is another celebrity more fit for the Ocal Office than Trump. Actually that would be a fun game - name a celebrity who'd make a better POTUS candidate than the one the GOP nominated. Shorter list is those that would be a worse fit.
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fknlo posted:One of my supervisors is a total gun nut, hordes silver, every other weird right wing thing possible, and even he was uncomfortable with that. Exactly. This is the exact type of thing that gun nuts claim to be arming themselves for. If Trump will jail his political opponents, destroy media with dissenting opinions, what happens to you or me when we disagree with his policies?
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Regulations for what that doesn't make sense to me.
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Hollismason posted:Why is it bad if Insurance comopanies are restricted to one state? I still don't understand that whole process wouldn't it be better to have national insurance? It's not better or worse inherently. The problem is that if you allow purchase across state lines, then whatever the federal minimum rules and coverage are effectively become the minimum for everyone. Because at least one state is going to allow lovely policies or try to create favorable pricing schemes to attract insurers. Then every insurer moves to that state, like Credit Card companies and banks did with Delaware. If you have strong federal minimums, then allowing purchase across state lines can theoretically reduce costs.
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Young Freud posted:Thanks for that explanation. I was trying to figure what this whole thing was about. binow's example of credit card companies all having their ""headquarters"" (disused single room office) located in South Dakota is a good one
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Lord Hydronium posted:Just look at that answer. Try to parse it. Help, I smell burnt toast.
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fknlo posted:One of my supervisors is a total gun nut, hordes silver, every other weird right wing thing possible, and even he was uncomfortable with that. Yeah, and it's getting the most headlines. This was supposed to be a chance for Trump to survive. He absolutely needed to have a narrative shaking debate. And he failed. He lost the narrative again and it's now about his calls to jail a political opponent if elected.
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Mind_Taker posted:The general feeling I have is that Trump wasn't terrible for his own standards, but Hillary didn't make any gaffes that will get any traction in the media. Could she have landed a knockout blow? Maybe, but remember there is still one more debate and plenty of time for more dirt to come out about Trump. The next debate is going to be Trump and the moderator tag-teaming Hillary and doing whatever they can to bury her before her 90 minutes are up. It's Trump's friendliest environment yet and I'm sure Conway et al will be doping him to the gills and coaching him as much as they're able to keep him from loving it up.
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