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Just go to year round schooling? Three tracks that go two months on, one month off. Teachers will hate it but obviously no one in Nevada gives a poo poo about them.
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Leperflesh posted:You would think that the city with the most convention space on Earth could find some classrooms? This read like it was Northern NV near Reno not LV
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Nystral posted:This read like it was Northern NV near Reno not LV Correct. We do have a lot of convention space here, too though. That could be a temporary fix, but I can't imagine the logistics of taking kids potentially 20+ miles each way to the middle of Reno and somehow keeping a sane schedule. They were talking split sessions yes. It looks like they decided on 6:00am for high schoolers. That's not hugely different from "0 period" classes I had in high school. Of note and a plus for this stadium deal is that there are two bills on the ballot this year that would benefit schools: 1) A raise in sales tax to benefit schools. 2) The legalization of marijuana  with tax proceeds going to schools (roughly $20,000,000/yr est). I believe both of these would benefit all of Nevada, but I'm not 100% sure on #1 being state wide. Marijuana seems hugely popular according to Facebook news comments, even among older and conservative people.They're voting now for the stadium: live updates - http://www.rgj.com/story/news/politics/2016/10/13/live-coverage-day-3-special-session-raiders-stadium/91990630/ or video on the floor: http://nvleg.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?event_id=7467 but they're in recess (see edit) Bill itself for legal nerds/those interested: https://legiscan.com/NV/text/SB1/2016/X1 Edit nevermind on the stadium vote? "ML @anderson4nv says he hopes to take vote on stadium bill between 7 and 9 tonight. I'm hearing they are close to 28. Will the center hold?" I'd like to imagine a bunch of House of Cards stuff going on right now. Edit 2: oh poo poo it may just be arguing over it until then? I never watch these things: "Assembly back in session now. Getting ready for testimony on stadium/convention center #nvleg" Edit 3: (sounded like) If it is passed and the Raiders decline for some reason, funding will be left open for another NFL team to come for 18 months. If no team is still there, UNLV will have the option to build a "smaller college stadium". Edit 4: Raiders would have a mandatory 30-year lease. Even if they move they have to pay. Non-relocation agreement; missed the details of this. Knyteguy fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Oct 13, 2016 |
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Leperflesh posted:I'm guessing if they've got a severe classroom shortage, the idea is for one batch of kids to attend 7 hours of school from 4 AM to 11 AM, and then the second batch to go from like 11:30 AM to 6:30PM. I did this for middle school in Las Vegas.
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Dunno about nevada but in california half the time when the voters approve some borrowing or tax that is supposed to benefit X, where X=schools or roads or anything, the legislature tends to dutifully allocate all of the funds where they were intended, and then subtract that much from the general fund's spending on that thing and spend it somewhere else. E.g., this sort of thing only works to actually increase funding to X if the mandate also includes a measure to prevent the legislature from reducing funding to X from discretionary funding.
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Passed assembly 28-17quote:Noon update: poo poo has been surreal. I've had a state senator now retweet me regarding this bill.  I don't see why the senate wouldn't revote it (I'm unclear why it needs to go back there), but it seems like it's basically a done deal.
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Modest Mouse cover band posted:I don't see why the senate wouldn't revote it (I'm unclear why it needs to go back there), but it seems like it's basically a done deal. I'd imagine 'passed with amendments' is why it needs to go back. Did anyone say what the amendments were?
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Grittybeard posted:I'd imagine 'passed with amendments' is why it needs to go back. Did anyone say what the amendments were? That's exactly why. At the federal level, typically one house negotiates with the other in committees etc. to avoid passing a bill back and forth endlessly, but that doesn't always happen. Regardless, a bill amended in one house has to be resubmitted to the other: both have to sign an identical bill before it can be sent to the executive.
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Grittybeard posted:I'd imagine 'passed with amendments' is why it needs to go back. Did anyone say what the amendments were? $30 million to support the perverted arts.
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Grittybeard posted:I'd imagine 'passed with amendments' is why it needs to go back. Did anyone say what the amendments were? Ah, I thought it said passed with no amendments (which surprised me). Just found it: quote:One amendment would expand the stadium authority board to nine members, adding a third member appointed by the Clark County Commission and a representative from the University of Nevada, Las Vegas in charge of managing events. The original bill had UNLV paying $250,000/yr to use the stadium, no competitive bidding, and the board members is explained above.
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Modest Mouse cover band posted:Correct. We do have a lot of convention space here, too though. That could be a temporary fix, but I can't imagine the logistics of taking kids potentially 20+ miles each way to the middle of Reno and somehow keeping a sane schedule.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:$30 million to support the perverted arts. Strip clubs need public funding more than stadiums, bro
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gently caress, now I don't have a local team to root for when my actual team isn't playing.
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Now that this is passing/passed, NBA is pushing expansion and has leaked to the Hansen group that Seattle is other expansion team if arena deal is made soon.
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Zurreco posted:Now that this is passing/passed, NBA is pushing expansion and has leaked to the Hansen group that Seattle is other expansion team if arena deal is made soon. Unless it's 100% private funds I don't think Seattle's gonna build an NBA Arena.
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Skwirl posted:Unless it's 100% private funds I don't think Seattle's gonna build an NBA Arena. As someone working pretty close to the Sonics Arena, it's a lot closer than you think. The deal is pretty juicy from the city and aside from this most recent hiccup caused by the idiots running the port, it would already have been approved.
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Zurreco posted:As someone working pretty close to the Sonics Arena, it's a lot closer than you think. The deal is pretty juicy from the city and aside from this most recent hiccup caused by the idiots running the port, it would already have been approved. I was just going off the way the last possible stadium deal got shot down by all the women on city council and a fair bet that all of them will be re-elected.
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Skwirl posted:I was just going off the way the last possible stadium deal got shot down by all the women on city council and a fair bet that all of them will be re-elected. Well, two things: they didn't shoot it down, they charged the ownership to get a better reason to not renovate KeyArena (and there are multitudes of reasons not to), and the main argument against the SoDo arena was because the Port complained after they only got exactly what they asked for from the Hansen group, rather than a little more on top. Literally no one involved in the negotiations about the arena expected the council to reject the proposal. Kshama Sawant is a decent social justice advocate and has her heart in the right place, but her concerns were so misguided. Apparently building an arena near the port's property will gentrify the zero residential units in the area and will somehow be an economic burden on the longshoremen that make six figure salaries and commute in via a route that the arena group was offering to dump $50m into for upgrades.
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My hope with NBA expansion is that is that it gets the Pelicans and Grizzlies into the East so Vegas and Seattle would be ideal from a "let's reduce player's travel time" standpoint.
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Zurreco posted:Well, two things: they didn't shoot it down, they charged the ownership to get a better reason to not renovate KeyArena (and there are multitudes of reasons not to), and the main argument against the SoDo arena was because the Port complained after they only got exactly what they asked for from the Hansen group, rather than a little more on top. I don't actually have a dog in the race because I don't live in Seattle anymore and don't really care that much about the NBA, but Kshama Sawant wasn't the only city council person who voted against the deal. And seriously, don't call longshoremen rich fat cats when defending a vanity project from a billionaire.
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Zurreco posted:Now that this is passing/passed, NBA is pushing expansion and has leaked to the Hansen group that Seattle is other expansion team if arena deal is made soon. Where did you hear this? Very curious to know if it's true. I thought expansion would be deferred til after the next TV deal. Skwirl posted:I don't actually have a dog in the race because I don't live in Seattle anymore and don't really care that much about the NBA, but Kshama Sawant wasn't the only city council person who voted against the deal. And seriously, don't call longshoremen rich fat cats when defending a vanity project from a billionaire. Yeah, there were a lot of weird votes, like Gonzalez getting every weird concession she asked for and still voting no. Sawant was a no in solidarity with the ILWU, understandable from her perspective, but did so right after acknowledging how shady as hell Port management has been in opposing the deal. Bagshaw, who the hell knows, she was an arena supporter at first and now seems to be on a crusade against it. Anyway, the vote failed on a razor's margin, definitely an upset. Perhaps the new funds for Lander and more tangible expansion prospects will change some minds.
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Skwirl posted:I don't actually have a dog in the race because I don't live in Seattle anymore and don't really care that much about the NBA, but Kshama Sawant wasn't the only city council person who voted against the deal. And seriously, don't call longshoremen rich fat cats when defending a vanity project from a billionaire. I singled her out because her relatively vocal opposition was also the least logical. Also, having worked with the Port on multiple occasions, I will never skip an opportunity to call them whiny rich fat cats. shirts and skins posted:Where did you hear this? Very curious to know if it's true. I thought expansion would be deferred til after the next TV deal. It's been mentioned a lot as of late because the TV deal is in the new CBA and everything has been under the table so far. http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/with-nba-expansion-rumored-a-look-at-the-pros-cons-and-prospective-cities/?linkId=29917869
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Zurreco posted:I singled her out because her relatively vocal opposition was also the least logical. Also, having worked with the Port on multiple occasions, I will never skip an opportunity to call them whiny rich fat cats. You can't figure out why a socialist who's never given any indication she gave a poo poo about sports beyond enforcement of title nine would be opposed to public funding for a sports arena?
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Skwirl posted:You can't figure out why a socialist who's never given any indication she gave a poo poo about sports beyond enforcement of title nine would be opposed to public funding for a sports arena? I mean, she was in part elected because she indicated she'd be friendlier to the arena than the incumbent. In retrospect, yeah, it seems fairly obvious that her ideology would keep her support for the arena lukewarm at most. E. Maybe this discussion should be moved out of TFF...
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shirts and skins posted:I mean, she was in part elected because she indicated she'd be friendlier to the arena than the incumbent. In retrospect, yeah, it seems fairly obvious that her ideology would keep her support for the arena lukewarm at most. This will be the last thing I say, because you're right that it's way outside the topic of this thread, but if people voted for Kshama Sawant because they thought she'd support a sports stadium deal with public money, they really should have read there loving voters handbook. She's literally the last vote anyone depending on the city council approving a stadium deal should have expected to get.
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https://twitter.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/787722210026807296
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It's been pissing down all weekend here in the bay area, the first big storm we've had since the spring. And, the field at the colluseum is below sea level, so the only way to get water out is pumps. And the whole building leaks like crazy and is old and crap. That said, the players having to walk through that to get to the field? Aww, they'll get wet before they go out into the dumping rain and roll around in the mud! Terrible. There was a time when football did not have billions of dollars and everyone had to deal with lovely facilities and wet and mud and snow and so on and that's just how it was. Literal sewage spewing out of the toilets is a real problem. Some water leaking on you? Deal with it, you gigantic babies.
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It's 2016 you don't just say man up it's just a little pouring water falling on you inside a building. That place needs to be condemned.
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Keyser S0ze posted:at least it's not blood from all the stabbing victims! Levi's is about 30 miles South of Oakland or San Francisco.
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Chichevache posted:Levi's is about 30 miles South of Oakland or San Francisco. Hmm, so the murderers must have cars
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hifi posted:Hmm, so the murderers must have cars A lot of them ride bicycles because they can't afford cars or have DUIs. It's pretty funny.
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There seems to be something inherently trashy about a Las Vegas professional sports team that I can't quite put my finger on
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Blitz7x posted:There seems to be something inherently trashy about a Las Vegas professional sports team that I can't quite put my finger on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATrQKMe1rMM&t=21s
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Blitz7x posted:There seems to be something inherently trashy about a Las Vegas professional sports team that I can't quite put my finger on guess what happened at hooters last night  smell my fingers
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